Kangaxx - A New Way To Kill This #$#%^

[CRAGNAR]

If you don't know what Kangaxx is, don't read any further.




So basically, I had everyone around level 13 or so, and once he transformed in to his final form, nothing hit him except a few spells. He healed himself, summoned bone golems and etc, I dispatched them with death spells, and it was a never ending battle where no damage would occur.

Finally, Kangaxx exhausted every single spell it could cast and was just a floating skull wioth massive damage resistance. I let Keldorn fight him with an AC of -7 and Carsomyr. Every attack did around 2 or 3 HP of damage, Kangaxx could not harm him at all.

It was pretty fun to watch.

As much as I have played this game, including the version before EE, I never had that happen once. Pretty funny and also satisfying to know I exhausted a lich in combat.

[Dorok]

Messaggio originale di Volfogg:

Messaggio originale di Dorok:

How does this stop him summon or cast many spells?

Because as long as the only character in visual range is protected by scroll, any undead is effectively BLIND to their presence.
So it goes like...
I push Kangaxx into corner with Ring of Ram...
protected character attacks him with Daystar
Kangaxx has no detectable target
Kangaxx reaches critical health
unprotected character goes briefly into talk range, demi-lich transformation triggers
protected character continues to attack him with Daystar, unprotected ones are out of range
Kangaxx dies, ring acquired.

Ok, but weird bug to have an enemy focused on a target that is a non target.

[Zotliatlicor]

Messaggio originale di AlexMBrennan:

It's not a great battle because BG2 is absolutely littered with anti-undead items - you just need to hit him once with the mace of disruption and that's it.

Kangax is immune to this feature in both of his form. MoD is only +2 and cant hit him.

[Dorok]

Each time I see the thread title I have a smile if not laugh a bit, lol. :-)

[BlueBangkok]

Kangaxx's imprisonments in demilich form are unlimited, so how did you "exhaust" his spells?

Also Keldorn IS quite useless, sorry to say... He is lethal against mages because inquisitor but he is pretty lackluster against anything else. Requires dex gloves and one str belt to be useful (that's two crucial items not available for rest of the party), and constant micro not to die in 2 seconds on higher difficulties.

[BlueBangkok]

Messaggio originale di Zotliatlicor:

Messaggio originale di AlexMBrennan:

It's not a great battle because BG2 is absolutely littered with anti-undead items - you just need to hit him once with the mace of disruption and that's it.

Kangax is immune to this feature in both of his form. MoD is only +2 and cant hit him.

Kangaxx is not immune to the upgraded mace of disruption and he can be one shot by its ability in demilich form, afaik.

Mace of disruption strikes as +5 so kangaxx is not immune to it (+4 without upgrade)

[Dorok]

With upgrade perhaps, without upgrade, mace of disruption is +1 with TACO +2 and hitting like a +3 weapon, not +4.

[BlueBangkok]

Messaggio originale di Dorok:

With upgrade perhaps, without upgrade, mace of disruption is +1 with TACO +2 and hitting like a +3 weapon, not +4.

I stand corrected.

[ホウリシット]

protection from undead. you can literally solo him down with a +4 weapon. Gather some amount of gold (can't remember how much), buy the wakizashi from watcher's keep merchant, buy an undead prot scroll from any scroll merchant, and beat him down. turns the fight trivial. you can get gaxx ring basically at the start depending on how you go about it.

if you really suck at hitting him, just buy more scrolls.

[Dorok]

Messaggio originale di dumb glass buyer:

protection from undead. you can literally solo him down with a +4 weapon. Gather some amount of gold (can't remember how much), buy the wakizashi from watcher's keep merchant, buy an undead prot scroll from any scroll merchant, and beat him down. turns the fight trivial. you can get gaxx ring basically at the start depending on how you go about it.

if you really suck at hitting him, just buy more scrolls.

Well before kill him you'll need face at least the elemental Liche, it has multiple summons, and if it requires also srolls of undead prot it will be short.

So to really do it quickly at low level you need explain the tricks for the whole sequence.

[CaranBhelza]

On cheese, I never had any problems with Kangaxx except his final form. I don't know what happens to him in skull form, but he pretty much gets my main with a spell that kills him instantly... So, as soon as he turns into skull, I just have everyone leave the floor. Pop scroll of Protection from Undead on my main, and go back down solo to send him to his final resting place.

Imma cheese him all the way, I don't feel bad because he cheesed me first...

[BlueBangkok]

Messaggio originale di Supernaut:

On cheese, I never had any problems with Kangaxx except his final form. I don't know what happens to him in skull form, but he pretty much gets my main with a spell that kills him instantly... So, as soon as he turns into skull, I just have everyone leave the floor. Pop scroll of Protection from Undead on my main, and go back down solo to send him to his final resting place.

Imma cheese him all the way, I don't feel bad because he cheesed me first...

Cheese him all the way!
The "instant kill" ability is basically a ranged imprisonment spell. It is not technically a death effect but since permanent imprisonment on MC is game over anyways, it matters little. He has it as a spell like ability I believe, and unlimited uses. There are only a few ways how to protect yourself besides scrolls of prot. from undead, most notably spell immunity abjuration. I'm not sure if berserker rage also protects you, I haven't tested it, but it should.

[Volfogg]

Messaggio originale di BlueBangkok:

Messaggio originale di Supernaut:

On cheese, I never had any problems with Kangaxx except his final form. I don't know what happens to him in skull form, but he pretty much gets my main with a spell that kills him instantly... So, as soon as he turns into skull, I just have everyone leave the floor. Pop scroll of Protection from Undead on my main, and go back down solo to send him to his final resting place.

Imma cheese him all the way, I don't feel bad because he cheesed me first...

Cheese him all the way!
The "instant kill" ability is basically a ranged imprisonment spell. It is not technically a death effect but since permanent imprisonment on MC is game over anyways, it matters little. He has it as a spell like ability I believe, and unlimited uses. There are only a few ways how to protect yourself besides scrolls of prot. from undead, most notably spell immunity abjuration. I'm not sure if berserker rage also protects you, I haven't tested it, but it should.

If I remember well, Berserker's does, but Minsc's doesn't. Maybe I misremembered it, but oddly enough Minsc's suddenly works against the demi-lich in Watcher's Keep when it shouldn't at least in the old version. Maybe weird assumption, but there might be a possibility that Watcher's Keep demi-lich merely "thinks" that Minsc popped Berserker's variant of berserk and merely switches to melee, demi-lich would still be able to imprison him, but his AI has a "stroke" and "forgets" he can do that.

[philos3]

Volfogg,

I think you are remembering it correctly, at least for the original Bioware, pre EE, game. The same thing happened to Minsc when I tried this many years ago. I reloaded and used the Protection from Magic method. I've never bothered trying it on the demi-lich in Watcher's Keep after the Kangaxx failure.

[Zotliatlicor]

Minsc's Rage is supposed to protect in the similar way of the Berserker. In old version when it did not it was a bug. EE fixed that bug.

There are other ways that Minsc's ability differs. He goes Bananas. And that is a big risk in Big fights. I have been slayed by Minsc more than once in this game, but sometimes it is just an enemy Chaos spell.

[CaranBhelza]

Messaggio originale di BlueBangkok:

Messaggio originale di Supernaut:

On cheese, I never had any problems with Kangaxx except his final form. I don't know what happens to him in skull form, but he pretty much gets my main with a spell that kills him instantly... So, as soon as he turns into skull, I just have everyone leave the floor. Pop scroll of Protection from Undead on my main, and go back down solo to send him to his final resting place.

Imma cheese him all the way, I don't feel bad because he cheesed me first...

Cheese him all the way!
The "instant kill" ability is basically a ranged imprisonment spell. It is not technically a death effect but since permanent imprisonment on MC is game over anyways, it matters little. He has it as a spell like ability I believe, and unlimited uses. There are only a few ways how to protect yourself besides scrolls of prot. from undead, most notably spell immunity abjuration. I'm not sure if berserker rage also protects you, I haven't tested it, but it should.

Ooooh... Imma try Spell Immunity next time I go for the ring. I tried Googling his abilities, but there was just too much info to go through, I still did not understand how my character was killed. Lol. Thanks!!