Which proficiencies for a full party?

[lolz.guru/cryyxu]

I want to play as a six person party.
Sorcerer, Minsk,Jan Jansen, Jaheira,Anomen and Mazzy,

Which profs should I get each of them?

[red255]

Sorcerer. something to keep him out of trouble, darts, or slings probably.
only can put one point in and you get like 4 weapon choices so just one in each.
Minsc, Mace of disruption +5 and kundane I guess.
He already has some points in stuff and you only need 2 points so you can play around with him giving him decent profs in other melee weapons.
Jan jansen normally has his crossbow to stick out of trouble and something for backstabbing,
Jahiera.........eventually dual wielding scimitars but thats quite a hike from her starting profs.
Belm and uh spectral brand.
Amonen since you got 3 tanks hes going full cleric and staying out of trouble? or we could give him the flail of ages if you want to cleric buff him into a melee warrior which is relatively idiotic. Probably want slings.
Mazzy. I think her kit is shortbows. but if you want a melee weapon. she can use most decent weapons.

So Decent weapons:

crom slayer. requires Several Strength enhancing items. generally feel this is a pass because of that.
Foebane, Nice bastard sword but unless you actively hunt it down there aren't alot of bastard swords in BG2.
Flail of Ages, Defender of easthaven. think Minsc with his level 1 priest spells should get this.

so I think.

PC- Crimson Dart. or just some sling
Minsc, Flail of Ages + defender of easthaven
Jan Jansen- the army's scythe/drow crossbow of speed
Jahiera- Spectral Brand / Belm
Amonen, some sling
Mazzy, Tulgian bow, Short sword of the Mask + Kundane.

[Hamish]

I always give minsc/keldorn axes early on, so they can use the Azure Edge throwing axe better, plus there are some nice axes later on too. you will get alot of points to spend on Minsc over the course, and there is lots of weapons to choose from.

Anomen is also a fighter, so you might want to Grand Master him in Flails, or Warhamers over time, Making him a good choice for the likes of Flail of Ages and Defender of Easthaven, perhaps a couple of points late on into Dual Wield and maybe another point in war hammers for when you want to give him Crom Fayer.

Jahiera throughout the game has lot's of choice too, early on I would just give her a good club. I put a point in daggers so she can use one of the throwing daggers easy, and yeah, spectral Brand/Belm is a great combo for her late game.

Jan is another that can get throwing daggers for when you want him out the way, he also gets UAI, but can't specialise in any weapon. He is a candidate for the Scarlet nijato, a weapon normally reserved for monks but can be used by Jan, but can't backstab with it. The Nijato is a +3 weapon that give one extra attack per round, so would compliment the army's scythe (if this is one handed) and also, Celestial Fury (Katina) on Jan is great which can be found early, especially with a point in two weapon style and a belt of strength.

Mazzy I have never took along but as she is grand Master in Short swords from the start, Sword of the Mask and Kundane is smart - I would grandmaster her in Short Bows and then put two points in Dual Wield and your miniature knight will be a death dealer!

Please excuse my spelling!

[lolz.guru/cryyxu]

I am now playing an evil party:
Korgan Dorn Blade Charname Viconia Jan Jansen Edwin
Can you give me some tips for each of them?

[red255]

Korgans an axe lad. Dorn gets an evil holy avenger sword in watchers keep so might as well 2H him. or give him flails and give him the damage reduction route.

Blade gets.....use any item at High levels. so I normally give him the scarlet ninja to.

So I guess Korgan Axe of the unyielding + Kundane
Dorn Flail of Ages + defender of easthaven
Blade: Scarlet ninja to + belm.
the rest should be steering clear of combat and using summons.

[lolz.guru/cryyxu]

I want to take Viconia along...
How do I make her the most powerful?

[Gustuv Wynd]

Viconia? Just a strength buff and she is good to go. If I take her along I tend to keep her in the back with a sling though...she isn't great on HP and AC is her only protection and there isn't much you can do about that. She doesn't get a CON bonus over 16 and there are only temporary ways to increase CON anyway.

[Kamuizin]

Originally posted by Sloty1984:

I want to play as a six person party.
Sorcerer, Minsk,Jan Jansen, Jaheira,Anomen and Mazzy,

Which profs should I get each of them?

First of all, look these 2 links, the old list of BG2 weapons and a list with the new items:

https://mikesrpgcenter.com/bgate2/weapons.html

https://baldursgate.fandom.com/wiki/New_items_in_Baldur%27s_Gate_II:_Enhanced_Edition

To answer your question: depend of what you want to do with them.

Sorcerer - Go staff and sling, you will use Staff of the Magi most of the time, ultra uber weapon picked at early game (if you know how to play the hard fight behind it for early game access)

MINSC - Normally we go two handed, the game compels us to go that path, but he has ** maces and ** two handed swords. Old BG didn't work two handed well with ranged weapons, you had to manually take off the off weapon to equip ranged weapons, thank gods this isn't a issue anymore.

So for him you can either pick 1 pt in two handed at least and go two handed swords, later you can pick halberd for some very situational weapons (like Wave) but most of the time you will be using the sword.

Minsc is also a ranger, so he get ** free on two weapon style, and you can go 3 on it and later put another edged weapon proficiency ** points too, so you have more options.

Ex: two handed sword minsc has some problems with Clay golems and reduced/immune slashing damage enemies.

Which edged? Based on your party, if you don't turn mazzy 2 handed go anything but scimitar/wakizashi/ninja-to and shorts sword, if you make her 2 handed just avoid scimitar/wakizashi/ninja-to.

Jan Jansen - He already come with the proficiences he need. You will be mostly using the crossbow, as Jansen can make a big good use of it (when he's not spell casting) unless you prefer to make him a melee (up to you).

Jaheira] - Scimitars are your main pick and she already come with one * on the proficiency. Her proficiencies are a bit of a mess, but multi-class are kinda hindered on proficiency in BG2, they're limited to ** (specialization), so just pick another * in Scimitar and you're good with her. Despite the tendency of everyone to either 2h or dual wield, every time i play Jaheira i tend to play sword and shield for some reason i can't explain or understand.
However, tbh, her nasty combo is probably Club of Detonantion +5 in main hand / Belm +2 in off hand. Belm gives +1apr and the club is a monster, if you know when to use it. When in doubt use Usuno's Blade (early accessible) or Spectral Brand +5 in ToB.

Anomen - The character i like the most in BG2 (and the most hated by everyone else). As a Dual-Class fighter Cleric he has an extreme edge over Jaheira: He can Grandmaster proficiencies (*****), but the price is, at high levels, he can't access warrior high level abilities.

If your minsc is going two handed swords, you can either go maces or war hammer, but as Anomen can ***** a proficiency, i advice to focus in either one or the other. My choice normally is War Hammer and that's because of Crom Faeyr that, for me, hand's up, is the best weapon of the game (+5 weapon that set your str to 25).

Mazzy - I never played Mazzy well, so my advices are more a guess than tested outcomes. with ***** in shortbow she's an able candidate to play behind lines with infinite ammo shortbows. For her melee, to put her shortsword to ***** will need level 21, a bit far in the game, and to even think in dual wield would be worse. Mazzy i would go short sword and 1 point in single weapon style, and the moments she need to fight melee at least the sword will critical at 19/20 rolls.

Originally posted by Sloty1984:

I want to take Viconia along...
How do I make her the most powerful?

For Constitution - Girdle of Fortitude: 18 Con for 8h once a day. Just use it and substitute for another thing.
For Strength - Any Girdle of Giant, the Gauntlets of Ogre Power or Mauler's Arm +2 (Mace), just pick one and she's ready to go.

[Wicket W. Warrick]

I like almost all of your advice and I subscribe them too, 1-2 thing to say.

Originally posted by Kamuizin:

b]Jaheira][/b] - ... i tend to play sword and shield for some reason i can't explain or understand....

I do it the same. I think that's because she makes a very good tank with ironskin and low AC.

Originally posted by Kamuizin:

Anomen - The character i like the most in BG2 (and the most hated by everyone else). , but as Anomen can ***** a proficiency, i advice to focus in either one or the other. My choice normally is War Hammer and that's because of Crom Faeyr that, for me, hand's up, is the best weapon of the game (+5 weapon that set your str to 25).

I like him too. Anomen has a lot of DUHM and when playing I feel that creating Crom Faeyr is a little waste, so I prefer to have the basic object separeted, giving him Flail of the ages. What's your opinion?

[Hamish]

Crom Faeyr is worth it IMO, you swap 2 lesser strength items and an average hammer for the ultimate weapon of destruction you can pick up the Girdle of Hill Giant Strength early in SoA, the Girdle of Stone Giant Strength Late in SoA, a Girdle of Fire Giant Strength mid ish in ToB and there is a long sword that sets your strength to 22 as well as Crom Faeyr that sets your strenght to 25 - that is 4 Strength boosting items you can collect over and above Crom Faeyr! Right now I have Crom Fayre on my main hand and Belm on my offhand with my blade and it is VERY effective.

[Hamish]

As for Viconia, she is powerful in her own right being drow, with 50% natural magic resistance. If you are doing evil, get her the completed human flesh armour and he Magic Resistance goes up to 75%, as long as she is happy wearing armour made from dead beggers...

[Kamuizin]

Originally posted by stef.corsi:

I like almost all of your advice and I subscribe them too, 1-2 thing to say.

Originally posted by Kamuizin:

b]Jaheira][/b] - ... i tend to play sword and shield for some reason i can't explain or understand....

I do it the same. I think that's because she makes a very good tank with ironskin and low AC.

Originally posted by Kamuizin:

Anomen - The character i like the most in BG2 (and the most hated by everyone else). , but as Anomen can ***** a proficiency, i advice to focus in either one or the other. My choice normally is War Hammer and that's because of Crom Faeyr that, for me, hand's up, is the best weapon of the game (+5 weapon that set your str to 25).

I like him too. Anomen has a lot of DUHM and when playing I feel that creating Crom Faeyr is a little waste, so I prefer to have the basic object separeted, giving him Flail of the ages. What's your opinion?

Flail of Ages is one of the most uber weapons of the game and Anomen may even play better with it. My use of Crom Faeyr with him is more the same of my sword and shield with Jaheira, i don't know why, i just do.

Viconia surely benefit much more from a Crom Faeyr, just keep in mind he (Anomen) start with * on War Hammer, Flail request him to invest ***** from start and as a Cleric and he start as a lvl 8, so that's lvl 28 for grandmastery (not that War Hammer is much better with lvl 24 to grandmastery).

[red255]

I....never felt the need to use vicky in melee.

it just never dawned on my to use my what 10 str and 8 con 1 APR spell caster in melee. like if that happened I felt I ♥♥♥♥♥♥ something up.

like I could probably get it to work if we were doing some sort of run but I wouldn't Advise it.

[Kamuizin]

Originally posted by red255:

I....never felt the need to use vicky in melee.

it just never dawned on my to use my what 10 str and 8 con 1 APR spell caster in melee. like if that happened I felt I ♥♥♥♥♥♥ something up.

like I could probably get it to work if we were doing some sort of run but I wouldn't Advise it.

She start with natural 65% magic immunity and BG Magic Resistance stack in any circumstance (unlike NWN).

You understand you can put her at melee in the middle of AoE spells flying and she will fight like nothing happened around her, right?

What are her shortcommings?
Str? Crom Faeyr later, girdle/glove of strength or mauler's arm at begin.
Con? Girdle of Fortitude, use and unequip.
APR? She doesn't need to substitute a fighter, jus use that 19 Dex of her that give full AC bonus in AD&D version of the game with full plate armor, put some dragon scales on her, a shield, blade barrier, and spam AoE spells behind lines.

It's the orthodox path? No. It's viable? Yes, very viable and not difficult to do when you know how to do.

[Hamish]

I rarely play Viccy as I mostly play good, but 19 dex and 65% MR is some freaking tank! The number of shields to choose from too and you could even pick the one with a little MR, maybe give her a MR necklace and the ring of Gaxx - you are talking 95/100% MR with high AC! The drow rule supreme indeed. I guess the Human Flesh Armour is not necessary after all.

[Wicket W. Warrick]

Originally posted by Hamish:

Crom Faeyr is worth it IMO, you swap 2 lesser strength items and an average hammer for the ultimate weapon of destruction you can pick up the Girdle of Hill Giant Strength early in SoA, the Girdle of Stone Giant Strength Late in SoA, a Girdle of Fire Giant Strength mid ish in ToB and there is a long sword that sets your strength to 22 as well as Crom Faeyr that sets your strenght to 25 - that is 4 Strength boosting items you can collect over and above Crom Faeyr! Right now I have Crom Fayre on my main hand and Belm on my offhand with my blade and it is VERY effective.

I agree, generally speaking, but with this party composition and giving the hammer to Anomen, I would probably prefer to have Mazzy and Jaheira constantly to 19+ strength, boosting Anomen strenght with the millions of DUHM that he has. But that's just what I would do, I'm not sure that it's the best for everyone.