Death spells works??

[Etxxu]

Hi, everyone!!

I have tries just the spell, i have also tries greater malison + Doom + death spell, i have even tried breach + pierce magic + doom + greater malison + death spell x2... And i have never kill any Boss or named "little" Boss (like Azareth and Ur-Goroth)... Hahaha

Is It death spell an useless spell?

Thank you all!!

[ZirzoR]

It would be nice if you simply googled it, bosses and some "little" bosses are completely immune to death spells.

You could've found this out in 5 seconds from google or simple google the spell itself.

Waste of forum space, once again.

[guntoting_lawbreaker]

What the? He is asking a question about the game in the game forums, that is what they are for.

[ZirzoR]

Originally posted by guntoting_lawbreaker:

What the? He is asking a question about the game in the game forums, that is what they are for.

Its a matter of efficiency and principle, it took him longer to make the question and wait for the question to be answered then it takes to find it out yourself, if I was a boss, I wouldn't hire him just because he's wasting valueable resources, its not good work ethic at all to bother other people and ask to many questions.

Simple logic, he's wasting his own time.

[Etxxu]

Originally posted by guntoting_lawbreaker:

What the? He is asking a question about the game in the game forums, that is what they are for.

He always do the same in my posts...
He doesnt understand the social behind this forums of players Who want to share their experiences...
Nobody ask him but he keeps coming yo create bad mood and disturbing in my posts, making us (and he) to lose time instead sharing and having a good behaviour

[ZirzoR]

Originally posted by Etxxu:

Originally posted by guntoting_lawbreaker:

What the? He is asking a question about the game in the game forums, that is what they are for.

He always do the same in my posts...
He doesnt understand the social behind this forums of players Who want to share their experiences...
Nobody ask him but he keeps coming yo create bad mood and disturbing in my posts, making us (and he) to lose time instead sharing and having a good behaviour

Sure, "social" is that why you made 20 posts in 20 days? Literally spamming the forums.

Bad mood? you create the bad mood yourself by taking offense, that's because you're fragile and its not my fault in the slightest.

Humans are despicable selfish creatures, the faster you learn that, the better you'll feel, you'll all see in the end, we're already clawing at eachother because of a silly pandemic, imagine once earth starts to fall apart, HA!

Social my ass.

[Zotliatlicor]

Death Spell does not work on monsters / bosses with 9HD and above. That would mean that an lvl 8 Fighter can be killed, but a lvl 10 Thief or lvl 12 Mage will not be killed. It kills Summoned Creatures automatically, and that is one of the main uses for this spell.

In SoA it works well against Trolls and Umber Hulks, mobs that are hard early on and very hard to deal with for Solo players.

So the name itself is a bit misleading. It shreds large groups of weaker monsters, but as you move on in the game and yourself get leveld up, you will not meet such groups very often. In TOB it is mostly useless, and high lvl summons like Summoned demons, devas and planetars are immune to this spell.

But some enemy spellcasters summon up a lot of creatures, 1 Death Spell is then all you need. This is also why so many Solo Sorceror / Mage runs always pick this spell.

[Etxxu]

Originally posted by Zotliatlicor:

Death Spell does not work on monsters / bosses with 9HD and above. That would mean that an lvl 8 Fighter can be killed, but a lvl 10 Thief or lvl 12 Mage will not be killed. It kills Summoned Creatures automatically, and that is one of the main uses for this spell.

In SoA it works well against Trolls and Umber Hulks, mobs that are hard early on and very hard to deal with for Solo players.

So the name itself is a bit misleading. It shreds large groups of weaker monsters, but as you move on in the game and yourself get leveld up, you will not meet such groups very often. In TOB it is mostly useless, and high lvl summons like Summoned demons, devas and planetars are immune to this spell.

But some enemy spellcasters summon up a lot of creatures, 1 Death Spell is then all you need. This is also why so many Solo Sorceror / Mage runs always pick this spell.

And finger of death, power word kill, etcétera, works? I will keep death spell to mobs then because i always run out of spells against great numbers of mobs haha

[Zotliatlicor]

Finger of Death can work, if the monster can be affected by Neromantic Spells (are not Immune by race, type, spell or other reasons)

FoD has a -2 to save against, and its beaty is that it does Damage, 2d8 +1 even if the moster saves. So it always work in some way, killed or damaged. I dont remember if it is affected by Spell Resistance.

Priests have a similar Spell, Slay Living, lvl 5 Divine, but it is slightly more complicated. You need a touch Hit, if you miss, spell is wasted. If you hit you do 2d6 +9 damage (no save) then the monster must save or die.

Once you are above lvl 10 Mage, the lvl 1 Chromatic Orb has a petrify effect and lvl 12 it is a kill effect. So after a long good debuff section you can kill a dragon with a lvl 1 spell, if lucky (their saves are crazy high, soo...)

Power wors Kill (lvl 9 wizard) has no save, but the targets must have less than 60 HP, so it is hard to calculate when used on bosses or other monsters with high HP. But it works (is supposed to work) if you first grind the monster down to either hurt badly or near death Status.

Personally i dont like that sort of calculations so i tend to not use PW: Kill much. Monsters with less than 60 HP i often have little trouble killing with easier means, and the lvl 9 spell slots are precious.

[illmatics]

Originally posted by ZirzoR:

Originally posted by guntoting_lawbreaker:

What the? He is asking a question about the game in the game forums, that is what they are for.

Its a matter of efficiency and principle, it took him longer to make the question and wait for the question to be answered then it takes to find it out yourself, if I was a boss, I wouldn't hire him just because he's wasting valueable resources, its not good work ethic at all to bother other people and ask to many questions.

Simple logic, he's wasting his own time.

Only one wasting time here, is you.

[Etxxu]

Originally posted by Zotliatlicor:

Finger of Death can work, if the monster can be affected by Neromantic Spells (are not Immune by race, type, spell or other reasons)

FoD has a -2 to save against, and its beaty is that it does Damage, 2d8 +1 even if the moster saves. So it always work in some way, killed or damaged. I dont remember if it is affected by Spell Resistance.

Priests have a similar Spell, Slay Living, lvl 5 Divine, but it is slightly more complicated. You need a touch Hit, if you miss, spell is wasted. If you hit you do 2d6 +9 damage (no save) then the monster must save or die.

Once you are above lvl 10 Mage, the lvl 1 Chromatic Orb has a petrify effect and lvl 12 it is a kill effect. So after a long good debuff section you can kill a dragon with a lvl 1 spell, if lucky (their saves are crazy high, soo...)

Power wors Kill (lvl 9 wizard) has no save, but the targets must have less than 60 HP, so it is hard to calculate when used on bosses or other monsters with high HP. But it works (is supposed to work) if you first grind the monster down to either hurt badly or near death Status.

Personally i dont like that sort of calculations so i tend to not use PW: Kill much. Monsters with less than 60 HP i often have little trouble killing with easier means, and the lvl 9 spell slots are precious.

No... Power Word Kill doesnt deserve the slots haha...
Im lvl 12, so i will greater malison + finger death and greater malison + minor sequencer + Chromatic Orb x2 to try haha

[Bibibobaba]

Finger of Death it my favorite spell and high level chromatic orbs like Zotiaticor and Ettxu said are awesone. I always pick finger of death with a sorcerer.
You need at least one of them Disintegrate, Finger of Death or Flesh to stone.
Circle of death is good against mob of low lvl humanoid like goblin, but a fireball will do better.
9th lvl wail of Banshee with finger of death I think are the only death spell worth using. Cloud kill and Horrid witting can be of some use too.

[Etxxu]

Originally posted by crazyboule:

Finger of Death it my favorite spell and high level chromatic orbs like Zotiaticor and Ettxu said are awesone. I always pick finger of death with a sorcerer.
You need at least one of them Disintegrate, Finger of Death or Flesh to stone.
Circle of death is good against mob of low lvl humanoid like goblin, but a fireball will do better.
9th lvl wail of Banshee with finger of death I think are the only death spell worth using. Cloud kill and Horrid witting can be of some use too.

First time i hear of wail of banshee :0 what that spell does?! I have never got the scroll

[Bibibobaba]

I dont know where you can get the scroll maybe in ToB, but sorcerer can learn it easily when they can pick lvl 9 spell. It real powerfull instant death spell 15ft. radius around the caster, companion are immune. No hit-point limit, just saving throw vs death.

[Etxxu]

Originally posted by crazyboule:

I dont know where you can get the scroll maybe in ToB, but sorcerer can learn it easily when they can pick lvl 9 spell. It real powerfull instant death spell 15ft. radius around the caster, companion are immune. No hit-point limit, just saving throw vs death.

Wooow, im going to look for it

[Bibibobaba]

Do you know about the awesone manual for this game? Check your local files for Bg2, it in the manual folders. Originaly the book for this game it the best I ever seen, it was huge and really usefull. It still great anyway in pdf version.