Viconia with Good Reputation?

[Rufure92]

I will start a new from the start but
I would like to know if Viconar the drow can be keeped in a good reputation group?

I know she is evil aligned character but does her -2 reputation (so max 18 reputation )are enough to prevent her to leaving?

By the way, it's possible to romance her with a good aligned protagonist?

[red255]

I believe yes, as long as you stay 18 or below she can stay in the party and the -2 REP works.

but there are alot of rep gains so you should lower it.

[AlexMBrennan]

I know she is evil aligned character but does her -2 reputation (so max 18 reputation )are enough to prevent her to leaving?

No. Having Viconia join your party lowers your reputation (just like punching a peasant would), but doesn't prevent you from regaining your reputation later. You will have to keep punching peasants to keep your reputation low enough for Viconia.

[red255]

after spellhold you can pay 2 REP every time you want to use the slayer form.

with viconica you can talk to the guy who hates elves in the NW gate of wakeens promenade he'll attack, and the guard will attack for -3 REP. Dunno if other guards attack, its relatively clean. slaughtering peasants is something like -8 or so, maybe higher. assault + death.

I've done it, but I generally feel the need to go to a temple afterwards and mitigate the loss.

[Zotliatlicor]

Viconia will never leave you if you Romance her. And if you play the dialouge right she will also be one of the "Always Faithful" companions. She will bicker and rant if your Rep goes too high, but she will NEVER leave you as a result of high rep if you do the right dialouge choices.

In the end, if you Romance her enough, she will no longer be evil, she changes to Neutral Good, and the complaints to high Rep will end.

[Leeux]

Tweaks Anthology mod can disable the reputation triggers so they don't leave (for both good and evil companions.)

And also, never pair her with Keldorn, though. Unless you use the NPCs don't fight tweak from the mentioned mod too.

[Rufure92]

Thanks you all for your answers!

I will try to follow your advices or finding the mod to prevent leaving

After doing once the game with Aerie Romance, I felt regret to not took Viconia. So I wanted to redo the whole series 1,DG,2,TB with taking Viconia and romance her but since I can't be myself evil (only a little) I feared it will be complicated to keep her

I knew there was a alignement change but I read it was very very complicated to do so

From few I traveled with her , she didn't look like truly evil to me. She had a hard time with the surface and I would like to have her a better life.

Thanks

[Abrakadabra]

Ive been using the 'happy party' mod and 'npcs dont fight' mod (as somebody mentioned its part of tweaks anthology for several years now. Some of the best party members have evil alignments. I just wouldnt want to miss out on them because of those restrictions. Despite 'npcs dont fight' I dont recruit anybody that would naturally fight somebody else in my party to not cheat too much. So I dont really use the second mod actually. I just dont want them to leave because of reputation.

Then I couldnt use Korgan (funniest party member in BG2 and powerful defensive or offensive tank), couldnt use Viconia (love her attitude and that she's kinda evil but still didnt forget you saved her) or Sarevok who is a great tob option. Only cheat I use.

[Luka]

I always play good and she has never left my party

[AlexMBrennan]

Viconia will never leave you if you Romance her. And if you play the dialouge right she will also be one of the "Always Faithful" companions. She will bicker and rant if your Rep goes too high, but she will NEVER leave you as a result of high rep if you do the right dialouge choices.

In the end, if you Romance her enough, she will no longer be evil, she changes to Neutral Good, and the complaints to high Rep will end.

The 2nd paragraph suggests that you are talking about ToB where no companions leave regardless of reputation.

[Zotliatlicor]

Originally posted by AlexMBrennan:

Viconia will never leave you if you Romance her. And if you play the dialouge right she will also be one of the "Always Faithful" companions. She will bicker and rant if your Rep goes too high, but she will NEVER leave you as a result of high rep if you do the right dialouge choices.

In the end, if you Romance her enough, she will no longer be evil, she changes to Neutral Good, and the complaints to high Rep will end.

The 2nd paragraph suggests that you are talking about ToB where no companions leave regardless of reputation.

Both yes and no. All of the Romances are supposed to be able to finish in SoA. Regardless, Viconia, Korgan and Edwin never leaves, and they are all evil.

Edwin has conflict with others, and i do not know the full extent of all of them. But he is loyal.

[Gustuv Wynd]

Another approach is to mod it out...do a google search for "happy.2da"...and never worry about reputation again. I didn't make the mod, but I've always modified a file for it...really should have just done this.

I don't think Baldur's Gate has too many bad aspects...but the reputation system is one of them. It is so dumb and obviously not even half thought out (though the alignment system in D&D is pretty much the same way). They are being lavished with magic items...have a wagon of gold being pulled around with them...gaining experience to become a Master of their class...fulfilling personal quests and desires...yet they are going to just up and leave because you aren't having them kill every commoner you come across? Not even Dorn would want that...his boss would get angry at all the trash he was sending him.

To truly play evil...your rep should be high. Appear to society that you are a paragon of virtue, but in reality you are stealing everything that isn't nailed down...picking fights just to kill some one to get their items...and then taking advantage of your good rep to sweet talk a good deal when selling your plundered loot. Heck, that probably describes 90% of all "good" BG play throughs.

I typically don't mod the game much...every now and then I will, but usually not. However, I will always have happy.2da in my override and nothing of value is lost (and I do another small modification that nerfs dual wielding a little and buffs two handed a little...but that is it). It would be different if there was any reason or balancing that was being done with it...but it feels like they got done and realized they didn't implement anything to do with alignments and party interaction...so they tacked on this rep thing.

[razvedchiki]

if you ♥♥♥♥ her she gets neutral.

[Chris P Lettuce]

The romance with Viconia is progressing nicely. I had a reputation of 16. Organically, I entered into a house right next to the blacksmith in the Docks district. Had Jan take some gold from the house while the woman owner was there. Turned hostile. Ran outside, had the Amn guards chase after me (They are tougher than I thought they would be. Guessing I'm used to BG 1 EE guards). Took them out without reputation loss. The woman came out of her home, and my archer cut her down with 1 shot before I could micro. Rep down to 9. Decided to add an evil party for now since I have room to build up rep again.

[Zotliatlicor]

Reputation in BG series are mostly awarded for beeing good. But this has alway been wrong in my book. Rep points should be rewarded for doing BIG STUFF and getting famous, no matter your Alignment or the goodiness of the Quest.

Rep is mostly to get better prices from stores, and being a Hero or Villain should be equal. Store owners should shiver in their kneecaps when the Most evil, vile, World Famous Slayer of All enters the room.

There is / was a mod that fixed this but i cannot remember what it was called. It had it so both the very high and the very low Rep scores gave discount at stores. So if your Rep got too high you could just murder someone and be vilified.