Baldur's Gate II: Enhanced Edition

Baldur's Gate II: Enhanced Edition

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exochan Dec 30, 2016 @ 12:03pm
Surviving the initial dungeon?
Is the intial dungeon supposed to be impossible? I got this game on GOG and I gave up on it because the intial dungeon was impossible to get through.

First I lost half my party because the spell system is confusing. Rolled another characters and tried again, healing spells kept my going but I kept having to rest after every combat area to heal/regain spells. After my female wizard (I think might be rouge) died to a trap I gave up and quit.

Is the game supposed to be this hard?
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fauxpas Dec 30, 2016 @ 12:15pm 
The game is old school, which means that when compared to modern games it has a steep learning curve.

However as you learn the in and outs of the rules it does get better and you'll find that the game really isn't all that "hard".
exochan Dec 30, 2016 @ 12:21pm 
Originally posted by fauxpas:
The game is old school, which means that when compared to modern games it has a steep learning curve.

However as you learn the in and outs of the rules it does get better and you'll find that the game really isn't all that "hard".

I did the tutorial but it didn't really help that much, it told me the key command which did help (even if clicking to speak to an enemy instead of attacking him is very stupid) it felt like the game was just throwing stuff at you expecting you to know everything.
fauxpas Dec 30, 2016 @ 1:10pm 
Part of that is that you are playing BG (2) as opposed to BG (1) so the game does have a legitimate reason to make that assumption.
Originally posted by exochan:
Is the game supposed to be this hard?
At which difficulty setting did you play?

What do you think why did you have major problems with those few fights in that dungeon? Did you pick up all companions and give them the right equipment you could find early?

One can escape from that prison without resting once. At most once only (also for story purposes), since your companions will comment on that then. If you feel you need to rest often, do it for now. When you've become a bit more experienced, you will laugh about the fights in this dungeon.

The "rogue" you refer to is named Imoen. She is a dual-class Thief/Mage character one typically knows from Baldur's Gate 1. What you need to know about finding traps is: The trap detection mode must be active (either via AI settings for a thief) or by switching it on yourself at the bottom of the main screen for Imoen. As it may take up to a round (six seconds) to discover nearby traps, you need to move forward carefully. Or wait a bit every few steps to give your trap finders a chance to find traps. Often the graphics give minor hints about traps, too, such as blood stains or a corpse on the floor. Some enemies (such as spiders) also like activating web traps. Rule of thumb: Enjoy the atmosphere, and move much more slowly with FindTraps mode activated. If you dislike that, the game is not for you. Eventually you would develop a feeling for how to move through dungeons and to detect traps also before trying to open locks.
exochan Dec 30, 2016 @ 2:47pm 
Originally posted by D'amarr from Darshiva:
Originally posted by exochan:
Is the game supposed to be this hard?
At which difficulty setting did you play?

What do you think why did you have major problems with those few fights in that dungeon? Did you pick up all companions and give them the right equipment you could find early?

easy difficulty I think, might have been normal. I collected all the companions in the first area and gave what I think was the best options, I gave Imoen a staff because everything else was taken. But the main problem is that people keep walking into combat and dying because they either don't autoattack or the faster characters get into combat first and take damage while the slower ones (I assume the tanks) are at the back stuck behind the queue to get through the door.
heresy Dec 31, 2016 @ 6:03pm 
dnd games like this need alittle set up and prep your char can be whatever you feel like but is strongest being a fighter type with high 18/91+str and 18+con or a mage/wiz with 18 int 16con

make sure your weapons match your skill type so many dont understand this
pause key in the old days was space bar spam this if fight is going horrible to slow down and micro the fight

squishy types should never get near close combat so look at their scripts in their character page
as they migth be in berzerker mode

gamefaqs have fantastic write guides so check them out for hints and tips
hope things get sorted and this becomes one of your all time favs

also icewind dale ee is a smaller condensed version and i always recommend anyone to play that first (personal fav tho)
puppet74 Dec 31, 2016 @ 8:16pm 
This is old school rpg, no hand holding. You have to put in the effort to lern the game or the game will just punish you for it over and over again until you do somthing about it. Part of the charm. Also this game doesnt hold your hand so you can easily go into areas later on that are way over lvl for you and you will have no clue and get killed prity damn fast. Again part of the charm for some.

Tips id give is read every spell , ability and actully figure it out. Also as the poster above said use the information you have read from mousing over stuff to make and equip your party correctly.

There plenty of guides out there telling you how to do things, but tbh if you just copy them you wont learn much and your just get yourself killed later on and wont understand why.
If you take the time learn the game it will reward you many times over. But yes this game can be brutal at times , its not a walk in the park even on easy as a newcomer, unlike most games now days where hard is just what you should auto pick if your a gamer lol.
red255 Dec 31, 2016 @ 10:35pm 
The First dungeon does want you to have a character with a 'build' and know how to use it.

IF you did BG1 + siege of dragonspear its probably not a problem with your 400,000-500,000 XP.

Make your character. I'd probably suggest a fighter base since you appear to be having trouble. kit beserker. you can dual class if human at level 9 and take something else.

you want Strength, Dex, CON and either INT or WIS maxed at 18. depending on whether you want to do Cleric or Mage or Theif.

if you don't want to be a Tank class, I guess just summon monsters and cast haste.

It wasn't that hard for me but then I know the system and did BG1 first so my guy had 19 all stats. and 400K XP.
Jaxom Jan 8, 2017 @ 4:18pm 
Originally posted by Dr Eugene Porter:
dnd games like this need alittle set up and prep your char can be whatever you feel like but is strongest being a fighter type with high 18/91+str and 18+con or a mage/wiz with 18 int 16con

make sure your weapons match your skill type so many dont understand this
pause key in the old days was space bar spam this if fight is going horrible to slow down and micro the fight

squishy types should never get near close combat so look at their scripts in their character page
as they migth be in berzerker mode

gamefaqs have fantastic write guides so check them out for hints and tips
hope things get sorted and this becomes one of your all time favs

also icewind dale ee is a smaller condensed version and i always recommend anyone to play that first (personal fav tho)

How did you have 19s in all stats with out cheating?
Originally posted by Jaxom:
How did you have 19s in all stats with out cheating?
Yeah, good question. That would require a very high roll of 106 plus all the eight Tomes/Manuals one can find in BGEE. One can only get +1 one every attribute except for +3 in wisdom.

fauxpas Jan 10, 2017 @ 1:06pm 
Originally posted by Jaxom:

How did you have 19s in all stats with out cheating?


Unless I missed something they never said that they did.
fauxpas Jan 10, 2017 @ 1:09pm 
However with that said; don't forget about DEX since "armor penalties" didn't come out until 3rd Edition.
creslyn Jan 10, 2017 @ 8:11pm 
Probably the single best tip you can be given as a new player to the series without spoilers, is save often.

Make a new save every time you enter a new map area for the first time and don't save over it. Make little saves often in between.

Until you get a better idea of what the enemies can do to you, and how to avoid it, things are likely to go poorly for you.
Last edited by creslyn; Jan 10, 2017 @ 8:12pm
Originally posted by fauxpas:
Originally posted by Jaxom:

How did you have 19s in all stats with out cheating?


Unless I missed something they never said that they did.
Well, you didn't notice the incorrect quote. Here it is. Clicking on the user name takes you to the right post:

Originally posted by red255:
It wasn't that hard for me but then I know the system and did BG1 first so my guy had 19 all stats. and 400K XP.

Probably he only didn't mention dumping CHA or another attribute.
Last edited by D'amarr from Darshiva; Jan 11, 2017 @ 4:01am
anferFFmax Apr 10, 2017 @ 10:55pm 
Originally posted by exochan:
Originally posted by fauxpas:
The game is old school, which means that when compared to modern games it has a steep learning curve.

However as you learn the in and outs of the rules it does get better and you'll find that the game really isn't all that "hard".

I did the tutorial but it didn't really help that much, it told me the key command which did help (even if clicking to speak to an enemy instead of attacking him is very stupid) it felt like the game was just throwing stuff at you expecting you to know everything.

It also has to do with the fact the game used to come with this HUGE instructional manual, that pretty much covered everything. The original game went out of its way to include this "bible" in the box when you buy the game. The glorious late 90s and early 2000s at their absolute best. I believe this version has that manual in PDF format somewhere in the install directory. Check it out!
Last edited by anferFFmax; Apr 10, 2017 @ 10:55pm
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