Eden Crafters

Eden Crafters

Element Dec 25, 2024 @ 10:51am
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Female Explorer?
Hi I was wondering when there would be an option for the Sex of the explorer? I'm a woman and would love to have the option of playing a woman in the game any idea when that will be an option?
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Originally posted by Kaos:
Are we sure that the main character is even human? Pyraxis that is supposed to be coming in Q3 2025 definitely doesn't look like it would be possible for humans to spend any time on the planet. It seems like the starting zone on that planet would be the hottest region on the other planets with the other zones getting even hotter.

I doubt it, no water intake and a disregard for the necessity of any other nutrients beside those given from trees. They need oxygen and trees to live without any form of rest in current development.
Drizzt Jan 1 @ 4:18pm 
It's not unreasonable for female players to want a female option for their character in this game. Neither is it unreasonable for people to want skin tone options. They are of course not priorities, since they have zero effect on the gameplay in this game, and gameplay development and bug fixing should be 100% of the focus right now, especially because the addition of this feature (however small) will require maintenance, and will generate bugs and tickets.

But, like i say, it is not an unreasonable request for this game, since the protagonist is visible in multiple scenarios and is currently clearly a caucasian man. Whether they are a cyborg that just needs organic materials to survive is irrelevant, since they have been built with a face, and that face is white and male.

Also, many factors point to the protagonist being human.

But aside from that, if they are not, then they are produced in a factory, and the factory can choose to create them with any kind of face they like. Or no face at all.

This is an immersive sim. And the player's face is visible. Therefore it is not unreasonable for female or non caucasian players to want to feel immersed by having the player look a little more like them. I do not feel body type options are strictly necessary, since inside a bulky spacesuit most physiques capable of being an astronaut would be mostly indistinguishable. This is also good, because having multiple character models will be more problematic than just having multiple face texture and color options.

FYI, here are some games that do not have player customization options (and note the reasons why):

Factorio: the Engineer's face is never visible and they are in bulky environment suit

The Planet Crafter: same as Factorio

Subnautica: player is only visible occasionally in silouette, so about as unobtrusive as possible, plus it is a cartoony anime silouette - i am sure they could have added an alternate, but considering the technical debt of that game, i'm not surprised they didn't add any additional complexity (especially since the player never speaks and engages in no character specific story beats)

Subnautica Below Zero: and then for this one they went full on female protagonist, which again makes sense to not be optional, since they went for a fully voiced story, so even if they removed the gender specific story beats, they would still need to record all the dialogue twice for each language

As a counterpoint to Below Zero, Fallout 4 also has a fully voiced protagonist with some gender specific dialogue, and allows for male and female. But that game had a budget in the many tens of millions and was full of dialogue. So either the protagonist needed to be silent, with a modified story, and there be no 3rd person view, or they needed to do what they did.

Or for an example where gender makes no difference on gameplay but they provide the option, Medieval Engineers. Another immersive sim, and one where the player is visible in third person, and therefore the devs provided some options for immersion.
(Or Space Engineers, face visible through helmet, so there are options, despite it having zero gameplay affect, they even added a different body type due to their sleek futuristic space suit)

The point is this: if a game has a story with a specific individual as the protagonist, or even one which requires the protagonist to have certain characteristics, then it makes sense to limit the options. And in those cases all players are roleplaying as a specific character or character type, e.g. Adam Jenson or Link or Aloy. Also if the character is never seen or heard, no options are required. E,g, a gazillion games, including some mentioned above.

But, if a game has no voiced dialogue, and no gender specific story beats, but does allow the player to see their character's face/skin/unsuited body - then it seems reasonable, especially in an immersive sim, for players to want options for how the character looks, at least at the most basic level.

And like i say, it should definitely not be high priority. But the suggestion should not be dismissed in some of the ways seen in this thread. Games are supposed to be fun. For all of us. I enjoy playing as Aloy in HZD. And i enjoyed playing as Jenson in DXHR. And I was aware of why those where the only options. But where possible i try and make my character look like Drizzt. And if my avatar was female then that would be what i would try for. Pretty much any time there is not a voiced protagonist and no characteristic specific story or dialogue beats, it is not unreasonable to desire options.

And like i said as well, it makes sense to not add those options until an appropriate time, since they will add additional assets and menus and code, all of which can affect other things, as well as being additional features for people to raise tickets about. Whereas now it is a single (reasonable and politely requested) feature request.

So, i am new here. And i think this game is great. And is most definitely an immersive sim. And one of the best. Where the player can easily roleplay as a stranded survivor from The Martian or Interstellar. And that survivor has no required gender, race, nationality or eye color. And there is no expectation of any story beats that will narrow the selection of those traits. And since their face is visible, it is not unreasonable to add some related options in due course. And i hope the community for this game is the kind that will understand that this is not an unreasonable or illogical request, and that it would have been sufficient to simply acknowledge it as so, while also making the point about it not having a high priority.

Although the game does seem pretty stable and polished already. And so we may be at the stage where they might add some nice to haves like this before too long.

Peace :-)
Last edited by Drizzt; Jan 13 @ 11:20am
Kitcat Jan 2 @ 8:08am 
You can see the player, ex: in the ship or if you hit F5 (camera switch). So I totally get where OP is coming from and agree, would be nice to have more options.

Edit: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3398867247
Last edited by Kitcat; Jan 2 @ 8:17am
Originally posted by Lopaka:
You have the option not to play.

Sure, but that option doesn't make the developer any money.

Seriously, why are you guys so threatened by the prospect of a female version of the character?
Last edited by Spazmania; Jan 2 @ 9:16am
Osaris Games  [developer] Jan 2 @ 9:49am 
Originally posted by Element:
Hi I was wondering when there would be an option for the Sex of the explorer? I'm a woman and would love to have the option of playing a woman in the game any idea when that will be an option?
This is planned, in a future update you'll have a few character options.
Drizzt Jan 2 @ 10:04am 
Originally posted by Osaris Games:
Originally posted by Element:
Hi I was wondering when there would be an option for the Sex of the explorer? I'm a woman and would love to have the option of playing a woman in the game any idea when that will be an option?
This is planned, in a future update you'll have a few character options.
i figured it would be in the roadmap for when it was convenient to add it

i am sure the OP will be along to thank you soon - and i am glad you got here before anything got too ugly

this is a truly awesome game for all to enjoy - and i am sure everyone would still (and does currently) enjoy it even while roleplaying as an archetypal pale dude ;-)

but i am sure you have been waiting for this question for a while - ever since you implemented the visible character face (which was already in the demo, just only through the ship cockpit or in the cutscene, since no drone at that time - but most people must have seen it)

so it is nice to now have anyone who is interested be able to search and find this thread (to which the OP will hopefully mark your post as the answer)

anyway, thanks for all the great work - i'm loving the game, and wishing you eminent success with it
Last edited by Drizzt; Jan 2 @ 10:09am
Originally posted by Osaris Games:
Originally posted by Element:
Hi I was wondering when there would be an option for the Sex of the explorer? I'm a woman and would love to have the option of playing a woman in the game any idea when that will be an option?
This is planned, in a future update you'll have a few character options.
Good for you devs. There has been a trend lately to answer legitimate and polite questions with boorish, impolite, and intolerant responses. Not just in this forum but others as well. Some are much worse than others. We are all here to talk about a game we love to play and would like to see it made better. We don't need people trashing other players for making a simple suggestion. Why is it a problem for Eden Crafters adding a female character to make female game players feel more welcomed and catered to? The Tomb Raider franchise has had a female lead for years and they are sill going strong. Save your faux outrage for social media. There should be no place it here.
Last edited by joe_schmoe_gamer; Jan 4 @ 7:25am
Spazmania Jan 2 @ 10:54am 
Originally posted by joe_schmoe_gamer:
We are all here to talk about a game we love to play and would like to see it made better. We don't need people trashing other players for making a simple suggestion.

Hear! Hear!
Originally posted by Archangel:
OP never returned to thread, Troll confirmed.
The only thing confirmed here is that you are a bully. Go back to posting rants on X(cretment) I'm sure they are holding their breath waiting for your every word.
Hurray the devs will waste time and energy to add options that have zero effect on the game. Congrats to the 5 people this will make happy.
Kopfschütteln ......
Originally posted by alkalinecube:
Originally posted by Archangel:
OP never returned to thread, Troll confirmed.
Or maybe she was just annoyed that half of the replies to a normal, polite question were rude. I'll never understand why so many gamers are so hostile.
ik exactly why.... they are braindead... cant help ur genetics lol
Originally posted by DrEvilHomer:
Hurray the devs will waste time and energy to add options that have zero effect on the game. Congrats to the 5 people this will make happy.
As usual, the emotional response is the uninformed one. It is reported that women make up 46% of video game players. The decision to focus one small aspect of the game to make them feel welcomed is a smart business decision. If the game developers feel it is a good business decision what effect will that have on you? Try putting your bruised male ego aside.
Dex Jan 4 @ 7:15am 
Originally posted by Osaris Games:
Originally posted by Element:
Hi I was wondering when there would be an option for the Sex of the explorer? I'm a woman and would love to have the option of playing a woman in the game any idea when that will be an option?
This is planned, in a future update you'll have a few character options.

nice! More options are always a good thing.
Kkat Jan 13 @ 10:18am 
Originally posted by Osaris Games:
Originally posted by Element:
Hi I was wondering when there would be an option for the Sex of the explorer? I'm a woman and would love to have the option of playing a woman in the game any idea when that will be an option?
This is planned, in a future update you'll have a few character options.

Thank you! I came to the boards to ask this too. While clearly low priority, the bit of customization would be very nice since we can see our characters and each other in co-op. I'm hoping a female model and some skin and suit color options would be a fairly simple that would go a long way when playing with multiple friends.
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