Did you know that it is possible to buy, analyze and refund it?

[The Wil]

Remasters cost almost nothing to the studio, graphical upgrades should not be re-charged to those who already own the games, they should be updated free of charge for those who already have them. Maybe this campaign won't go very far, maybe they'll take it down before it becomes popular, but I need to try, we need to try. Your review can save us of these farming remasters is a way of stop this dirty and abusive practice. So if you didn't like the way this remaster was made, remember that you can refund it.

How to do it? If you have a balance on Steam, buy it, play for less than TWO HOURS, leave a negative review, and then request a refund for the game. This way, your analysis will be saved and you will get your money back. Remember to request your refund less than two hours played and within 14 days of purchase (per Steam refund request guidelines).

https://store.steampowered.com/steam_refunds/

[Ordisoftware]

Originally posted by The Wil:

Resmasters cost almost nothing to the studio, graphical upgrades should not be re-charged to those who already own the games, they should be updated free of charge for those who already have them. Maybe this campaign won't go very far, maybe they'll take it down before it becomes popular, but I need to try, we need to try. Negating the reviews of these farming remasters is a way of protesting this dirty and abusive practice.

How to do it? If you have a balance on Steam, buy it, play for less than TWO HOURS, leave a negative review, and then request a refund for the game. This way, your analysis will be saved and you will get your money back. Remember to request your refund less than two hours played and within 7 days of purchase (per Steam refund request guidelines).

Please, share this campaign

Months of daily work cost nothing? Indeed... no need to pay for food, housing, electricity, water, materials and work tools, supplies, employees, actors, devs, managers, cleaners, taxes, or even yourself who has never played the original game it seems thus your opinion is useless.

$10 for the upgrade to have a more beautiful game almost like West is just a gift to old players, because usually remasters cost more, but let's not say that.

If you don't like this game, let the players enjoy it and move on, because here, slanderous propaganda is futile and vain, no matter the subject.

[MJS WARLORD]

You are playing a dangerous game trying to encourage players to buy,review and refund.
I have seen postings of players saying that steam keeps a database of refunds and if you become a regular refund-er they reserve the right to refuse you

NOTE ... you got your facts wrong as well , its 2 hours or 2 weeks NOT 7 days

[Ordisoftware]

https://store.steampowered.com/steam_refunds/

Abuse: Refunds are designed to remove the risk from purchasing titles on Steam—not as a way to get free games. If it appears to us that you are abusing refunds, we may stop offering them to you. We do not consider it abuse to request a refund on a title that was purchased just before a sale and then immediately rebuying that title for the sale price.

[The Wil]

Originally posted by Ordisoftware:

Months of daily work cost nothing? Indeed... no need to pay for food, housing, electricity, water, materials and work tools, supplies, employees, actors, devs, managers, cleaners, taxes, or even yourself who has never played the original game it seems thus your opinion is useless.

$10 for the upgrade to have a more beautiful game almost like West is just a gift to old players, because usually remasters cost more, but let's not say that.

Gift is not charged. Remasters are not remakes, this costs the studio practically nothing. This is done by tiny teams, perhaps by a single dev. Graphic upgrades should be done to attract new buyers, not to farm infinite money on top of the game you've already purchased. It must be updated for free like Mafia 2, The Witcher 3, Doom, and others..

Don't forget the community of modders, who often do incredibly better work alone and for free than the studio itself. Games like GTA IV perfectly exemplify what I'm saying.

[The Wil]

Originally posted by MJS WARLORD:

You are playing a dangerous game trying to encourage players to buy,review and refund.
I have seen postings of players saying that steam keeps a database of refunds and if you become a regular refund-er they reserve the right to refuse you

NOTE ... you got your facts wrong as well , its 2 hours or 2 weeks NOT 7 days

tnx for info

[MJS WARLORD]

The 2 hours use or 2 weeks owned is not set in stone i have played a few games for as long as 4 hours and requested a refund and the reason i give are things like , pc sounds like fans running flat out just sat on main menu page ..... with the added comment please look at what other players are saying about this .... and i got the out of time refund

[The Wil]

Originally posted by Ordisoftware:

https://store.steampowered.com/steam_refunds/

Abuse: Refunds are designed to remove the risk from purchasing titles on Steam—not as a way to get free games. If it appears to us that you are abusing refunds, we may stop offering them to you. We do not consider it abuse to request a refund on a title that was purchased just before a sale and then immediately rebuying that title for the sale price.

I'm not encouraging anyone to get the game for free through refunds, because there's no way to do that. I just showed that it is possible to test and evaluate whatever you want, according to the refund request guidelines. I also did not violate any community rules with this post.


https://help.steampowered.com/pt-br/faqs/view/6862-8119-C23E-EA7B

[Ordisoftware]

Originally posted by The Wil:

Gift is not charged. Remasters are not remakes, this costs the studio practically nothing.

A favor, if you prefer than the gift word.

For you 6 to 12 months, I guess, to be calibrated according to the number of people obviously because I don't know, of full-time work costs nothing, not to mention the hours spent on patches for over a month?

Great. Let's all work without pay, everyone, all over the planet, and therefore no longer pay taxes that are supposed to protect our lives, our education, our health, our property, our peace in addition to roads and bridges. Let's make the world a post-apocalyptic world like in movies and games.

But who want that? Would you agree to work for free for three months for example? No, I'm sure.

[the7thguest]

I feel pitty for such people, if you don't like it, nobody else is allowed to...

I for my part enjoyed the Remastered, and now, with more QoL features like transmog, it's even more worth it.
One of the few games I played more than once - and enjoyed every single run.

And I don't even respond to the "it's no work" part, clearly has no idea about gaming development so doesn't make sense to discuss that topic.

[The Wil]

Originally posted by Ordisoftware:

Originally posted by The Wil:

Gift is not charged. Remasters are not remakes, this costs the studio practically nothing.

A favor, if you prefer than the gift word.

For you 6 to 12 months of full-time work costs nothing, not to mention the hours spent on patches for over a month. Great. Let's all work without pay, everyone, all over the planet, and therefore no longer pay taxes that are supposed to protect our lives, our education, our health, our property, our peace in addition to roads and bridges. Let's make the world a post-apocalyptic world like in movies and games.

But Who want that? Would you agree to work for free for 2 years for example? No, I'm sure.

Are you reading what you are writing? I'm criticizing an abusive practice being carried out by a multi-billion dollar company, not a developer who is depending on your payment.

[The Wil]

Originally posted by Ordisoftware:

No more reading...

np

[Hebalon]

Sure. Recording ~10 hours of motion capture to improve the facial animation during the cutscenes is no work at all. That can be done on one afternoon by an intern. The remaining coding and modeling stuff are just a few prompts in ChatGPT, no problem at all.

Jokes aside - I think 10€ for this remaster s a very fair prize, even if I paid only 13€ for the Complete Edition during the christmas sale last year. ^^

[jano]

Originally posted by The Wil:

Remasters cost almost nothing to the studio, graphical upgrades should not be re-charged to those who already own the games, they should be updated free of charge for those who already have them. Maybe this campaign won't go very far, maybe they'll take it down before it becomes popular, but I need to try, we need to try. Your review can save us of these farming remasters is a way of stop this dirty and abusive practice. So if you didn't like the way this remaster was made, remember that you can refund it.

How to do it? If you have a balance on Steam, buy it, play for less than TWO HOURS, leave a negative review, and then request a refund for the game. This way, your analysis will be saved and you will get your money back. Remember to request your refund less than two hours played and within 14 days of purchase (per Steam refund request guidelines).

https://store.steampowered.com/steam_refunds/

You can write an opinion in Internet, why not. But I have this right too, so: I buy HZD Original on GOG, so I pay for HZDR full price and I think it's worth it. Why? Because art that presents beauty, not ugliness, should be supported. For me, making a remake of Blood born would be a waste of time, money, and I'm willing to pay for no one to do it (not too much, in truth, because I'm not Musk), because this game is full of ugliness, disgusting creatures, and disgust. And here we have a good idea, great execution, and an objectively beautiful game (I have my comments about it, but that's a different discussion). The remaster is much nicer. I wouldn't even pay $1 for games like blood born, resident evil, gta. The value of the game is therefore quite a subjective matter.

[The Wil]

Originally posted by jano:

Originally posted by The Wil:

Remasters cost almost nothing to the studio, graphical upgrades should not be re-charged to those who already own the games, they should be updated free of charge for those who already have them. Maybe this campaign won't go very far, maybe they'll take it down before it becomes popular, but I need to try, we need to try. Your review can save us of these farming remasters is a way of stop this dirty and abusive practice. So if you didn't like the way this remaster was made, remember that you can refund it.

How to do it? If you have a balance on Steam, buy it, play for less than TWO HOURS, leave a negative review, and then request a refund for the game. This way, your analysis will be saved and you will get your money back. Remember to request your refund less than two hours played and within 14 days of purchase (per Steam refund request guidelines).

https://store.steampowered.com/steam_refunds/

You can write an opinion in Internet, why not. But I have this right too, so: I buy HZD Original on GOG, so I pay for HZDR full price and I think it's worth it. Why? Because art that presents beauty, not ugliness, should be supported. For me, making a remake of Blood born would be a waste of time, money, and I'm willing to pay for no one to do it (not too much, in truth, because I'm not Musk), because this game is full of ugliness, disgusting creatures, and disgust. And here we have a good idea, great execution, and an objectively beautiful game (I have my comments about it, but that's a different discussion). The remaster is much nicer. I wouldn't even pay $1 for games like blood born, resident evil, gta. The value of the game is therefore quite a subjective matter.

I didn't even understand your point of view, but I understood that you are not Musk

[jano]

Originally posted by The Wil:

Originally posted by jano:

You can write an opinion in Internet, why not. But I have this right too, so: I buy HZD Original on GOG, so I pay for HZDR full price and I think it's worth it. Why? Because art that presents beauty, not ugliness, should be supported. For me, making a remake of Blood born would be a waste of time, money, and I'm willing to pay for no one to do it (not too much, in truth, because I'm not Musk), because this game is full of ugliness, disgusting creatures, and disgust. And here we have a good idea, great execution, and an objectively beautiful game (I have my comments about it, but that's a different discussion). The remaster is much nicer. I wouldn't even pay $1 for games like blood born, resident evil, gta. The value of the game is therefore quite a subjective matter.

I didn't even understand your point of view, but I understood that you are not Musk

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