Quest levels all over the place...

[Gisborne]

I get a lvl 25 quest, then a lvl 18, then the story quest main is lvl 14, lvl 25 quest is right next to me, lvl 14 quest is in top left side of map 100 miles away... it's soo jarring I hate it, May as well just do level scaling, this is nonsense.

[acowsik]

The way to go about doing things is to move from east to west in general but cover the map north to south within the vicinity of the next main quest... thats how I went about it.

Doing other activities can reward you with XP and better gear which will help you with your next main quest where you will be a lot higher level than the minimum recommended level for the quest.

You should avoid backtracking unless there is a side quest that unlocks in an already visited area of the map only after completing a certain main quest. This is the only exception where such scenarios are as per design.

[Ninjabutter]

The game isn't linear in terms of side quests and isn't built to operate that way. The geographic regions also aren't level-locked. I like it that way; I get frustrated with games that require you to play the same direction every time. HZD lets you hop all over the map as you wish and I find it fun.

[Gisborne]

Originally posted by Ninjabutter:

The game isn't linear in terms of side quests and isn't built to operate that way. The geographic regions also aren't level-locked. I like it that way; I get frustrated with games that require you to play the same direction every time. HZD lets you hop all over the map as you wish and I find it fun.

nah sorry its absolute waste of time it is, i prefer games to be level scaled so this nonsense bull crap doesn't need to be a thing. im doing a lvl 12 quest next to a lvl 25 wtf is this nonsense... poor game design in every way, back and forth all over place.

[the7thguest]

You complain about a lot this game offers, why do you actually play it?

For the "issue", I have hundrets of hours in all three titles so far and I never cared about a level for a quest. For Zero Dawn I usually play the Intro and once I can leave the sacred land go north to the Frozen Wilds, just to get the best items right away. Never ever looked on a level for a mission and felt it, in any way, influences the fun I have in the game.
Or do you just complain for the sake of complaining about something?

[Gisborne]

Originally posted by the7thguest:

You complain about a lot this game offers, why do you actually play it?

For the "issue", I have hundrets of hours in all three titles so far and I never cared about a level for a quest. For Zero Dawn I usually play the Intro and once I can leave the sacred land go north to the Frozen Wilds, just to get the best items right away. Never ever looked on a level for a mission and felt it, in any way, influences the fun I have in the game.
Or do you just complain for the sake of complaining about something?

Are you seriously complaining about my complaining? that sounds like just complaining about a complaint complaining...

[Avalanche]

They could solve it all just by making it scale to your level...problem solved.

[Mav99]

Originally posted by Gisborne:

nah sorry its absolute waste of time it is, i prefer games to be level scaled so this nonsense bull crap doesn't need to be a thing. im doing a lvl 12 quest next to a lvl 25 wtf is this nonsense... poor game design in every way, back and forth all over place.

Then play something else.

Or design a better game.

[Gisborne]

Originally posted by Mav99:

Originally posted by Gisborne:

nah sorry its absolute waste of time it is, i prefer games to be level scaled so this nonsense bull crap doesn't need to be a thing. im doing a lvl 12 quest next to a lvl 25 wtf is this nonsense... poor game design in every way, back and forth all over place.

Then play something else.

Or design a better game.

Ah you're one of those guys who can't take criticism? Just quit rather than have an opinion right. Yes comrade.

[Mav99]

Originally posted by Gisborne:

Ah you're one of those guys who can't take criticism? Just quit rather than have an opinion right. Yes comrade.

Certainly not, but if he finds the game SO annoying and it's design SO terrible, then why would he continue playing it?
And if he knows SO much better what "good" game design is, why not let other participate in that? ;)

After all, he's complaining about game-play mechanics that are pretty much inherent to any open world game...

[Gisborne]

Originally posted by Mav99:

Originally posted by Gisborne:

Ah you're one of those guys who can't take criticism? Just quit rather than have an opinion right. Yes comrade.

Certainly not, but if he finds the game SO annoying and it's design SO terrible, then why would he continue playing it?
And if he knows SO much better what "good" game design is, why not let other participate in that? ;)

After all, he's complaining about game-play mechanics that are pretty much inherent to any open world game...

If you buy a game and don;t like some things you just quit? that's a waste of money isnt it? From what I hear most people don't like many of the changes int he 2nd game, so did they all quit, refund and kill the game sales?

Most games with open worlds now have level scaling, even world of Warcraft an MMO for god sakes is level scaled now.

Why are you replying to me but speaking as if I'm the other guy wtf? do you not understand who is saying what?

And no most games which are level based have content in the same area before you move on so you clearly don't play many rpgs or action games if this is how you think they work in general.

But you're just a private profile so obviously can't take you seriously can I. Blocking you now.

[Grimzy]

Originally posted by Gisborne:

Originally posted by Mav99:

Certainly not, but if he finds the game SO annoying and it's design SO terrible, then why would he continue playing it?
And if he knows SO much better what "good" game design is, why not let other participate in that? ;)

After all, he's complaining about game-play mechanics that are pretty much inherent to any open world game...

If you buy a game and don;t like some things you just quit? that's a waste of money isnt it? From what I hear most people don't like many of the changes int he 2nd game, so did they all quit, refund and kill the game sales?

Most games with open worlds now have level scaling, even world of Warcraft an MMO for god sakes is level scaled now.

Why are you replying to me but speaking as if I'm the other guy wtf? do you not understand who is saying what?

And no most games which are level based have content in the same area before you move on so you clearly don't play many rpgs or action games if this is how you think they work in general.

But you're just a private profile so obviously can't take you seriously can I. Blocking you now.

Actually to correct you: most games now drop the level scaling and compensate by other ways.
Now to touch base on your criticism:

The game is open world and open progression, meaning, you are not bound by level restrictions and you progress quests as you encounter them on the route you decide to take.
That is not bad game design that is intentional game design because it was meant to be this way.

[Resalius...]

"poor game design"
"nah sorry its absolute waste of time it is, i prefer games to be level scaled so this nonsense bull crap doesn't need to be a thing."

and played over 100 hours.
funny

This game is very good. (all 3 of them)
Its a open-world game....
If you dont like it. dont buy/or play it.

[Gisborne]

Originally posted by Resalius...:

"poor game design"
"nah sorry its absolute waste of time it is, i prefer games to be level scaled so this nonsense bull crap doesn't need to be a thing."

and played over 100 hours.
funny

This game is very good. (all 3 of them)
Its a open-world game....
If you dont like it. dont buy/or play it.

Again the "don;t like it don;t buy it crowd" Like dragon age right? Bioware completely destroy a decades old beloved franchise and YOU people are like "this game was not made for you" well done clap clap, blocked.

[Alcator]

Originally posted by Gisborne:

I get a lvl 25 quest, then a lvl 18, then the story quest main is lvl 14, lvl 25 quest is right next to me, lvl 14 quest is in top left side of map 100 miles away... it's soo jarring I hate it, May as well just do level scaling, this is nonsense.

The "Levels" listed for the quests are not _requirements_; they are a hint as to the difficulty of the quest.

This is complicated by the addition of the DLC Frozen Wilds, which starts at Level 30 I think, but can be reached easily when you are only Level 7. What the number is telling you is "You may be seriously underequipped for this, consider doing something else instead".

Since the game has FAST TRAVEL (and once you make it to Daytower and buy the Golden Backpack, you have *infinite fast travel at zero cost*), neighboring quests of vastly different difficulty/level should not be a bother at all.

You'd have a point if the game was linear or if travelling back was somehow burdensome, but it's not.

Walk in peace.

[medion_no]

Level scaling is the gaming equivalent of communism. Period.