Region locked

[Festerblight]

Why is it region locked in Macedonia. I bought the Horizon Zero Dawn finished playing it last year, now I want to replay it again with new graphics but I legit cant even buy it. It just says that im Region Locked , doesnt give me option to contact support or anything .... like what the f ????

[Ordisoftware]

I doubt that any user can help you here, maybe, or not. Because it is not related to the game itself but to the PSN account, thus:

ask @ https://www.playstation.com/support/
or ask @ https://mfa.gov.mk or http://www.vlada.mk

Neither Sony nor Guerrilla nor Nixxes nor Steam are responsible for the laws and censorship of countries, as far as I know. All they can do is make sure that these laws, even if they are questionable, are respected, as well as help to improve them. Thus talk to them.

[Festerblight]

Originally posted by Ordisoftware:

I doubt that any user can help you here, maybe, or not. Because it is not related to the game itself but to the PSN account, thus:

ask @ https://www.playstation.com/support/
or ask @ https://mfa.gov.mk or http://www.vlada.mk

Neither Sony nor Guerrilla nor Nixxes nor Steam are responsible for the laws and censorship of countries, as far as I know. All they can do is make sure that these laws, even if they are questionable, are respected, as well as help to improve them. Thus talk to them.

Going into the government to ask about playing a video game is kinda wild in my opinion
Everything was working before , I buy the game I play it.
All of a sudden :
I buy God of War , I cant buy God of War Ragnarok
I buy Horizon Zero Dawn , I cant buy the Remaster
I dont think out country has anything to do with this situation.
The only thing that might be a case is : If the game is somehow related to the country or breaks a law. ( which im sure we dont have )

Otherwise ... secretly and suddenly locking the country and not providing a reason for it is... yea ... pretty crazy to do from a big publisher
Gonna put a in real life example : Imagine your wife just divorces you , doesnt give you a reason why. You are clueless and you never get an answer. Then you start looking in other direction for answer ( link from government websites you provided ) which have nothing to do with the situation.

[Ordisoftware]

You compare the political decisions of organisations running countries with a married couple: you can't be more wrong than that.

[Spaldini]

It's nothing to do with political decisions, laws or censorship.

It's due to Sony's inflexible PSN account creation. You can't select half the countries on earth. Also if you ever move country, you can't update your country or add payment methods from your new home.

Helldivers 2 was the first game that had PSN on PC. Initially was purchaseable worldwide, later PSN account was added, suddenly players in countries like Iceland and Macedonia couldn't play the game, Steam started mass refunding users, told Sony to fix it. Sony fixed it by refusing to sell the game digitally on Steam to those other countries, rather than fix it's account system.

If Sony ever pull their fingers out of their ass, they might fix PSN or remove the requirement.

[Ordisoftware]

Do you think it is Sony that is restricting itself from financial gains?
Despite the semiosis of compassion?
Absurd.

[WeirdScienceX]

Originally posted by Ordisoftware:

Do you think it is Sony that is restricting itself from financial gains?
Despite the semiosis of compassion?
Absurd.

Sigh, it's well known this is down to Sony practices. Don't spread misinformation.

[Grimzy]

Originally posted by WeirdScienceX:

Originally posted by Ordisoftware:

Do you think it is Sony that is restricting itself from financial gains?
Despite the semiosis of compassion?
Absurd.

Sigh, it's well known this is down to Sony practices. Don't spread misinformation.

You seem to be misinformed.
For PSN to be available in a given region / country Sony has to adhere to the laws there and government guidelines since the servers holding the data would be there.
9/10 times its simply not worth the hassle to comply with all the absurd laws and government directives in certain countries, hence no PSN there.

PErfect example is one of the EU countries where creating a PSN account actually requires you to submit a copy of your government issued ID card because that is a requirement the government put on.

[Ordisoftware]

Originally posted by WeirdScienceX:

Sigh, it's well known this is down to Sony practices. Don't spread misinformation.

Wrong: it's you spreading misinformation, even if I don't know all the ins and outs.
The joke.

[WeirdScienceX]

Originally posted by Grimzy:

Originally posted by WeirdScienceX:

Sigh, it's well known this is down to Sony practices. Don't spread misinformation.

You seem to be misinformed.
For PSN to be available in a given region / country Sony has to adhere to the laws there and government guidelines since the servers holding the data would be there.
9/10 times its simply not worth the hassle to comply with all the absurd laws and government directives in certain countries, hence no PSN there.

PErfect example is one of the EU countries where creating a PSN account actually requires you to submit a copy of your government issued ID card because that is a requirement the government put on.

Yes, so that is down to Sony, they don't want to go through the hassle of doing it, hence it is their decision. This was well publicised with the Helldivers 2 fiasco

[Festerblight]

I mean if they don't want to go through the hassle of doing it. I hope they don't mind the 2.5k player peak on Hdz remastered , until dawn etc
If it was any other publisher that relies on thir games being sold , they would have gone bankrupt.
Luckily Sony sells playstations and other products so they can do this.

[Ordisoftware]

It's a remaster, not a new release or a remake, you can't judge stats without comparing like with like, for example:

https://steamdb.info/app/2527390/charts/
https://steamdb.info/app/383150/charts/
https://steamdb.info/app/1041720/charts/
https://steamdb.info/app/736810/charts/

Sometimes, with a long-term vision, one do not do certain things for profit even if covering costs is important.

Horizon is a flagship license for Sony.

[Festerblight]

I think you are just trolling at this point. You dont see the big picture , I think if you were region locked would understand. But ill explain it to you in simple words
Imagine you bought a car and after some time. You see that the company is giving out new paint jobs (remastering) it and that you could upgrade your car. Now you go there and they tell you "oh because you live in this region you cant."
It just doesnt make sense

[Ordisoftware]

In France, for example, to put it simply and softly, we are not allowed to buy many things that are available in other countries. It is up to me to stay or change, according to my possibilities, because if I cannot I must be content with what I have, even if it is unfair, and if it is unfair my duty is to say so as best I can. Nothing more to do. Me a troll? It's a lie.

[kusti420]

♥♥♥♥ sony and all that PSN ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

[Zephyr]

Originally posted by Ordisoftware:

In France, for example, to put it simply and softly, we are not allowed to buy many things that are available in other countries. It is up to me to stay or change, according to my possibilities, because if I cannot I must be content with what I have, even if it is unfair, and if it is unfair my duty is to say so as best I can. Nothing more to do. Me a troll? It's a lie.

Well, since PSN is optional now and not mandatory anymore it indeed does not make any sense to have a region lock for these games. Only the PSN use should be locked, but not the game itself if you decide not to use PSN (which anybody can do now). So, buying and playing the game should indeed not be an issue anymore, regardless where you live.

But sure, this is down to Sony, the mandatory PSN was a lunacy to begin with. To still have region locks despite PSN not being madatory anymore is idiocy, plain and simple. But yeah, a potential customer can only complain to Sony and hope... .