Extreme lag

[Valensia]

I dont understand why thim s game is extreme slow/lagging. I have an i7 3.4 ghz processor, 8 gig ram and a nvida GTX850M 2gb graphics card. Even on middle settings it lags and is unplayable. I can play a game like Skyrim with high textures on max settings with ease! #frustrated

[simonmd]

My system is lower than yours and mine runs perfectly with cities of over 170k people. However, mine is a proper PC, not a laptop (the GTX850M is a mobile card) so maybe thats the issue?

Also, there is an issue with Nvidia cards not switching from the built in graphics, see this thread - http://steamcommunity.com/app/255710/discussions/0/610574394239778945/

[Blackkatt]

Originally posted by simonmd:

My system is lower than yours and mine runs perfectly with cities of over 170k people. However, mine is a proper PC, not a laptop (the GTX850M is a mobile card) so maybe thats the issue?

Also, there is an issue with Nvidia cards not switching from the built in graphics, see this thread - http://steamcommunity.com/app/255710/discussions/0/610574394239778945/

I dont belive that for a second. I have a gtx 980, i7 @ 3.9 GHz and the game lags ALWays with or without mods. And I see every value realtime, load on CPU/GPU etc etc. The game engine does not utilize my hardware very good. So please enlighten us how your PC is special?

[riopitt]

I've got a gtx 660 Ti and a 3.8 GHz quad CPU with 16 GB of RAM and i only get lag after i've filled 3 - 4 squares with at least 150 k, that's also with and without mods

[romannets]

I have a core i5 4.4 GHZ - 8GB DDR3 1866mhz - 7979 3GB video card.
Cities skylines used to run fine on very high settings, even upto about 80k population.
Lately since installing many many mods and assets, it has started to LAG, as in time wont speed up and traffic stays slow. This is probably due to one of the mods. And 8GB RAM is bearly enough.

[SinisterSlay]

My framerates drop (4790k @ 4.7ghz and 970) when there is a huge number of people on screen, such as at a bus stop.
I have seen to drop to as low as 15 fps when I had a massive bus stop blockage.
But normally I hover around 30-45 fps with my 150k cities.
Also, lag != framerate. Lag refers to your internet connectin speed.

[Blackkatt]

yes it does, but is also used to explain FPS drops...and no, does not refer to the speed of the internet connection, rather the latency of it.

[simonmd]

Originally posted by World Wide Web:

Originally posted by simonmd:

My system is lower than yours and mine runs perfectly with cities of over 170k people. However, mine is a proper PC, not a laptop (the GTX850M is a mobile card) so maybe thats the issue?

Also, there is an issue with Nvidia cards not switching from the built in graphics, see this thread - http://steamcommunity.com/app/255710/discussions/0/610574394239778945/

I dont belive that for a second. I have a gtx 980, i7 @ 3.4 GHz and the game lags ALWays with or without mods. And I see every value realtime, load on CPU/GPU etc etc. The game engine does not utilize my hardware very good. So please enlighten us how your PC is special?

Special? Not really, i'll list the specs and let you decide that but as to whether you believe me or not, you really think I give a damn? Youve decided to reply to the thread thats OVER A MONTH OLD so are either looking for an argument or just an idiot.

Anyway, my specs as follows,

AMD 6350 3.9ghz CPU
MSI 970 Gaming Motherboard
1TB Sata HD 7200rpm
Radeon HD6950 1GB graphics
16GB of 1233mhz DDR3 RAM

Respectable I believe and I think that the higher than average speed of my CPU and decent chunk of RAM makes the difference in games like this as they are always more CPU hungry. Again, I have NEVER seen a stutter, the only indication that the system is creaking over 100k people is the fact I can't use fast forward anymore but never the less, it stays smooth visually.

[Blackkatt]

Originally posted by simonmd:

Originally posted by World Wide Web:

I dont belive that for a second. I have a gtx 980, i7 @ 3.9 GHz and the game lags ALWays with or without mods. And I see every value realtime, load on CPU/GPU etc etc. The game engine does not utilize my hardware very good. So please enlighten us how your PC is special?

Special? Not really, i'll list the specs and let you decide that but as to whether you believe me or not, you really think I give a damn? Youve decided to reply to the thread thats OVER A MONTH OLD so are either looking for an argument or just an idiot.

Anyway, my specs as follows,

AMD 6350 3.9ghz CPU
MSI 970 Gaming Motherboard
1TB Sata HD 7200rpm
Radeon HD6950 1GB graphics
16GB of 1233mhz DDR3 RAM

Respectable I believe and I think that the higher than average speed of my CPU and decent chunk of RAM makes the difference in games like this as they are always more CPU hungry. Again, I have NEVER seen a stutter, the only indication that the system is creaking over 100k people is the fact I can't use fast forward anymore but never the less, it stays smooth visually.

Yeah, well, I just notice that with all graphics enhancing mods off the load on my GPU is about 25% it does not even care to overclock as it does when there's some load on it. So that tells me this is a HUGE bug with the game engine, that for some reason it does not communicate properly with my graphics card. Still, with your setup witch is under the recommended I think. I find it hard believing you run this game at max without hickups. And I don't care that you dont care if I believe you or not, thats not the point. I don't think you are a lire, rater confused on how things work.

We don't need to continue this convo, Ive already made my own post about this.

[Termite]

Everytime this issue is raised it is always replied with 'hardware not to spec'. Does not matter what the hardware is even if it is really top end kit, the reply is always 'hardware not up to spec'.

Valensia - do a search for 'FPS' and you will find you are not alone.

[simonmd]

Originally posted by World Wide Web:

Originally posted by simonmd:

Special? Not really, i'll list the specs and let you decide that but as to whether you believe me or not, you really think I give a damn? Youve decided to reply to the thread thats OVER A MONTH OLD so are either looking for an argument or just an idiot.

Anyway, my specs as follows,

AMD 6350 3.9ghz CPU
MSI 970 Gaming Motherboard
1TB Sata HD 7200rpm
Radeon HD6950 1GB graphics
16GB of 1233mhz DDR3 RAM

Respectable I believe and I think that the higher than average speed of my CPU and decent chunk of RAM makes the difference in games like this as they are always more CPU hungry. Again, I have NEVER seen a stutter, the only indication that the system is creaking over 100k people is the fact I can't use fast forward anymore but never the less, it stays smooth visually.

Yeah, well, I just notice that with all graphics enhancing mods off the load on my GPU is about 25% it does not even care to overclock as it does when there's some load on it. So that tells me this is a HUGE bug with the game engine, that for some reason it does not communicate properly with my graphics card. Still, with your setup witch is under the recommended I think. I find it hard believing you run this game at max without hickups. And I don't care that you dont care if I believe you or not, thats not the point. I don't think you are a lire, rater confused on how things work.

We don't need to continue this convo, Ive already made my own post about this.

With respect, my PC is not under the Recommended specs, it only falls short in the GPU area but exceeds it everywhere else. These are the rec' specs, as you can see, I beat them in both CPU and RAM which could explain why I seem to have no trouble.

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7/8/8.1 (64-bit)
Processor: Intel Core i5-3470, 3.20GHz / AMD FX-6300, 3.5Ghz
RAM: 6GB
Graphics Card: nVIDIA GeForce GTX 660, 2 GB / AMD Radeon HD 7870, 2 GB

I have no reason to mislead you, I'm not connected with Colossal Order, I just reported what MY experience is. ALL PC systems are different, some will run vastly better than a system that is worse on paper because the owner hasn't maintained it or set it up properly. My system is still pretty new so there isnt much junk on the HD for example, other people like yourself may have tons of crap in the background that they dont even know is there slowing things down and slowing loading times from the HD, etc.

[romannets]

The type of lag i get is not frame rate. i have a pretty powerful GPU.. What happens when there is about 50k + population, the traffic A.I. seems to go into a slow mode, and increasing the game speed does not work, it stays slow. Must be to do with mods that change the game A.I.

[Blackkatt]

Originally posted by simonmd:

Originally posted by World Wide Web:

Yeah, well, I just notice that with all graphics enhancing mods off the load on my GPU is about 25% it does not even care to overclock as it does when there's some load on it. So that tells me this is a HUGE bug with the game engine, that for some reason it does not communicate properly with my graphics card. Still, with your setup witch is under the recommended I think. I find it hard believing you run this game at max without hickups. And I don't care that you dont care if I believe you or not, thats not the point. I don't think you are a lire, rater confused on how things work.

We don't need to continue this convo, Ive already made my own post about this.

With respect, my PC is not under the Recommended specs, it only falls short in the GPU area but exceeds it everywhere else. These are the rec' specs, as you can see, I beat them in both CPU and RAM which could explain why I seem to have no trouble.

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7/8/8.1 (64-bit)
Processor: Intel Core i5-3470, 3.20GHz / AMD FX-6300, 3.5Ghz
RAM: 6GB
Graphics Card: nVIDIA GeForce GTX 660, 2 GB / AMD Radeon HD 7870, 2 GB

I have no reason to mislead you, I'm not connected with Colossal Order, I just reported what MY experience is. ALL PC systems are different, some will run vastly better than a system that is worse on paper because the owner hasn't maintained it or set it up properly. My system is still pretty new so there isnt much junk on the HD for example, other people like yourself may have tons of crap in the background that they dont even know is there slowing things down and slowing loading times from the HD, etc.

I never said you where trying to mislead me or anyone else. As I said the last time I think you lack experience on how things work, with all due respect =).

BTW, your CPU cant make up for a lacking GFX card. Even if this game is very CPU intensive. But as I said earlier there's no need continuing this conversation. I know now that its a bug in the engine that cases these problems. Have a loockzi here https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/the-low-fps-problem-high-spec-systems-any-os-platform-major-fps-drops-at-medium-close-zoom.847236/page-2#post-19256797

[simonmd]

Youre being too literal with the numbers, yes, my GPU is under the rec' spec but it is also OVER the Minimum spec (512mb) so basically, sits right there in the middle. Although this card is getting on a bit by today's standards, it is quite happy playing graphically intensive games like Crysis, Tony Hawx, etc. etc. The key point is the main CPU and RAM I believe, which is well over spec and makes sense as sim' games are always working hardest on this front.

[grapplehoeker]

"Extreme lag" and "FPS", sigh it's complete hyperbole and utter nonsense to bother complaining about it.
This is a city builder.
We're building cities and most of the time we're doing it while the game is paused.
There are no high action video spectacles that require a high FPS in order to enjoy it. The content alone is all but the most basic in terms of rendered quality, adding only diffuse to the textures. Sure, you can fake in ambient occlusion and play with the resolution by using mods to achieve a glossier appearance, for which FPS is redundant when you want to take a screenshot of it.
In fact the only situation where FPS does become a factor is when making a video and even then that requires 30 FPS, which is easily managed by most system specs.
@OP of your 197 owned games only 5 of them have you played for more than 50 hours and none of those are city builders. Your average time spent playing all of your games is no more than 5 O.o You've played Skylines for 1.3 hours... It appears that you are easily frustrated by most games regardless of 'lag' or the extremity of it.
@World Wide Web you can rest your case where the sun doesn't shine. I've read all that and everything else that's been posted prior to your recent crossposts if you simply searched for 'lag' or 'fps' in the discussions search bar.
None of that spoils my enjoyment of playing this game.

[simonmd]

Well said. I've always been amused by the kind of people who say it's a bug that the game is limited to a max of 60fps. These kind of people are straight from games like Battlefield and Call of Duty and think that the FPS counter is actually some kind of game rating system.