Seriously... a limit on trees?

[BenieTheDragon]

A $30 PC game, having console/mobile phone game-based limits. I should be able to cover the entire world with trees if I do so please. It's my game (techinically speaking), is it not?

I do remember the ingame Map Editor, actually having limits on the number of roads and trees that can be placed. Why? Are we not allowed to go nuts (like I did with the Tree Brush mod)? Is this the dev's way of dealing with complainers who say "My FPS is down because I placed so many things! Bleep you devs!"?
Or is there another reason? Like, what the game engine can handle?

I just want answers, and I'm sure this question has been asked before. So, a simple link to a megathread or two will surfice as an answer.

[BenieTheDragon]

Bump?

[Phoenix C64]

l2use workshop search?

http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/browse/?appid=255710&searchtext=tree&childpublishedfileid=0&browsesort=textsearch&section=items&requiredtags%5B%5D=Mod

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=413502249&searchtext=tree

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=415388525&searchtext=tree

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=406723376&searchtext=tree

took me 15 seconds...


and as of WHY... a game developer has to balance their game so it works on MOST machines. not everyone has super computers you know...

[E]

+1

I don't have this game yet myself (following it closely on Youtube and playing it on friend's PC), but this system of 'limit the number of buildings/trees/identities' was originally in Sierra's city building series. You could build a number of buildings and then you couldn't do anything, because the game reached a cap on the number of buildings of the same type allowed.

While it was fine in those games because back then people had caveman hardware, I don't think CO should put this restriction on the game. This is 2015, not 1999.

They should make an option that allows those of us who have powerful PCs to have unlimited number of entities. Because this restriction is stupid in my opinion.

[Mansen]

The limit is there - To - And hold on to your seats - to avoid the engine crashing hard.

You can't just expect endless containers - at some point you'll reach a limit. (And this is why they won't support mods that increase the limitations - well also locked in system requirements)

[Peter75]

Yea, I was trying to "plant" trees when I was creating a map. Limit reached before I can even cover half of my map. It looks bad and crappy...so I wanted to bulldoze some of those trees, no brush bulldoze, you will have to pick a tree to bulldoze and just hold on to the mouse button.

In my opinion, they should have created the game like how Crytek created the 1st Crysis, push everything to the max without considering the average PC spec. I bet gamers are willing to upgrade their PC if the game is worth it.

[Mansen]

Originally posted by zuana75:

In my opinion, they should have created the game like how Crytek created the 1st Crysis, push everything to the max without considering the average PC spec. I bet gamers are willing to upgrade their PC if the game is worth it.

Your one flaw - This is Earth.

The market is aimed at more casual players, often of Laptops. Not people with i7's and high end GPUs...

[Melfice]

Originally posted by zuana75:

I bet gamers are willing to upgrade their PC if the game is worth it.

Sure. Keep thinking that.

[Phoenix C64]

Originally posted by Mansen:

(And this is why they won't support mods that increase the limitations

so, what is this then?

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=413502249

the devs wont "support" any mod. threat them as 3rd party product at your own risk. devs wont be taken responsable for damage caused by ANY mod. not now, not ever.

if a mod is extremely good, fixes a balance issue or a bug, it will be implemented into the core game later on and the mod will be deprectated and disabled when you load the game after an update, like this one for example:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=409068574&searchtext=fix

[[at] ajyto]

Originally posted by zuana75:

In my opinion, they should have created the game like how Crytek created the 1st Crysis, push everything to the max without considering the average PC spec. I bet gamers are willing to upgrade their PC if the game is worth it.

So... gib monies?

PM me for my paypal email.

[Peter75]

LOL! That's why I said "in my opinion". Gamers with high end PC can try to push everything to the max to torture their machine to its knee, while average casual players can still enjoy their game with the average settings. And that's how Crysis was once a famous benchmark in computer tests. Don't get me wrong, I do love this CS, but I just wish that there were more settings to play with and see how well it can perform.

[Tyrant]

Originally posted by Mansen:

Originally posted by zuana75:

In my opinion, they should have created the game like how Crytek created the 1st Crysis, push everything to the max without considering the average PC spec. I bet gamers are willing to upgrade their PC if the game is worth it.

Your one flaw - This is Earth.

The market is aimed at more casual players, often of Laptops. Not people with i7's and high end GPUs...

if the game is aimed for casual gamers it would be a shooter or supermario clone
city builders are a nieche market

also its a kickstarter game they wouldnt really affor to make it a game that has a must on 16GB DDR4 and 4 ghz cpus coupled with 980s in sli, they would as a company just shoot themselves not in the foot but the face

[Phoenix C64]

Originally posted by zuana75:

LOL! That's why I said "in my opinion". Gamers with high end PC can try to push everything to the max to torture their machine to its knee, while average casual players can still enjoy their game with the average settings. And that's how Crysis was once a famous benchmark in computer tests. Don't get me wrong, I do love this CS, but I just wish that there were more settings to play with and see how well it can perform.

have you even read the replies and comments to your OP post?
there are MODs to do exactly what you're asking for. so what's the problem again?

Originally posted by Tyrant:

also its a kickstarter game they wouldnt really affor to make it a game that has a must on 16GB DDR4 and 4 ghz cpus coupled with 980s in sli, they would as a company just shoot themselves not in the foot but the face

^ this. first thing Tyrant and I agree I think xD

[Tyrant]

oh there is alot we agree on its just the other things we dont agree to that explode outwards in the 1 bad apple scenario

[Mag]

I am sorry, but this is how some of these threads comes across to me:

"Darn, i'd better not buy this game where the developer prioritize mainstream and lowend machines and won't let me plant a bazillion trees. They are just lazy and it cannot by any means be because it might cripple the engine. They do it because they want to spite me and they are dumb. I know way more than they do, all their decisions are not logical. My logic reigns and I am entitled to what I want!

I am not saying you should not write about your issues. I am just writing how they translate to me.

[Peter75]

Haha. Oh well, Better I will just keep quiet. Opinions can sometimes bring flame instead of discussion. English is not my mother tongue, and I apologize if my personal opinion caused unease to anyone.

Enjoy all. Cheers! :)