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Luchetti Mar 23, 2015 @ 2:12pm
C:S won't start installed on SSD without paging file
Hey guys anyone experienced it too? As title say the game won't start if i disable paging file (necessary for the correct use of the SSD) but if i enable it no problem, game have no kind of difficoulties.

Any help is really appreciate, thanks =)
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Mansen Mar 23, 2015 @ 2:26pm 
Works fine here - But...uh... why in the nine hells would you ever disable the page file cache? It's pretty mandatory for games.
Luchetti Mar 23, 2015 @ 4:02pm 
You're right! But never experienced any issues before C:S and i read online on few forums that page file cache should be disabled if using a SSD :/
Mansen Mar 23, 2015 @ 4:05pm 
Originally posted by Il DiNatale:
You're right! But never experienced any issues before C:S and i read online on few forums that page file cache should be disabled if using a SSD :/

Yeah... no. That was years ago - back when SSDs were notorious for short lifespans and terrible mileage. And even then it's a bad argument. Unless your SSD is literally starving for space, you still want to have it on the SSD. If not, at least put one on a secondary drive.

No page file? Applications (and likely) Windows will crash the instant you run out of Memory.
Buck Mar 23, 2015 @ 4:21pm 
Never disable the page file, there is no good reason to do so. Even if you have gobs of RAM some programs may require the Pagefile to work correctly.

I am not sure if C:S actually requires a pagefile, but it may well be that your system is running out of virtual memory (not to be confused with the "page file, which plays a role in Virtual memory management) and there may not be enough memory (again, virtual, not physical - all physical memory, along with the page file is "virtualized") to allocate to the application to allow it to start and run.

http://lifehacker.com/5426041/understanding-the-windows-pagefile-and-why-you-shouldnt-disable-it

IMO it's best to simply leave the Pagefile at default settings or set it to "system managed", but if you must muck with it manually Windows Guru Mark Russinovich recommend Min be set to Peak commit charge Minus total physical RAM and max to 2 times that.

If peak commit - Physical RAM = a negative # then set Min to something big enough to contain a kernel memory dump (Kernel memory is reported on the Task Manager "Performance" tab)

Originally posted by Il DiNatale:
d i read online on few forums that page file cache should be disabled if using a SSD :/

Anyone who says this doesn't know what they are talking about and should be ignored.

It is perfectly OK to have a Pagefile on an SSD. and this will NOT adversely affect the SSD's lifespan either. (wear leveling takes care of that). SSD's are a good place for the page file for performance reasons, but if you need to move it to an HDD, that's okay too.
Last edited by Buck; Mar 23, 2015 @ 4:23pm
BGK Mar 23, 2015 @ 4:27pm 
Originally posted by Il DiNatale:
if i disable paging file (necessary for the correct use of the SSD)
Your assumption is garbage. At best, it may slightly improve your SSD lifespan, which shouldn't be an issue with any (half decent) modern SSD.
Luchetti Mar 24, 2015 @ 9:52am 
So... problem solved! Thanks guys, page file enabled and C:S works fine! I'll never disable page file again :D :batsilo:
jamesc70 Mar 24, 2015 @ 10:32am 
You can safely disable pagefiles if you have enough physical memory. The benefit is speed of your memory bus versus the speed of reading from a HDD or SSD.

No game requires a pagefile; all the game sees is available memory, not that you have a pagefile in use.

Just check your performance tab or memory use statistics; if you have 16GB free of physical memory, most likely you don't need a pagefile.
Zider Sep 17, 2017 @ 12:54am 
Originally posted by jamesc70:
You can safely disable pagefiles if you have enough physical memory.

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No game requires a pagefile; all the game sees is available memory, not that you have a pagefile in use.

Wrong. It was wrong back then, and it's wrong today. Pagefile should NOT be disabled, and certain programs as well as games does require a pagefile (in the case of games it's mostly bad coding however). It's there for a reason and "disk swap" isn't the only one.
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Date Posted: Mar 23, 2015 @ 2:12pm
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