Workshop/mod connection faulty

[pinke]

So the other day some network assets were not loading anymore. I use Skyve, and they showed up there, then they didn't, then a whole bunch of assets and mods disappeared/were unscubscribed.

Then Skyve and my workshop showed completely different things, and then all mods were gone/unsubscribed and a third of my Skyve playset vanished.

I got a tip that it might be a connection problem with the workshop.

I disabled the mods and started a new vanilla city, were some of the workshop assets were activated and i could place them. I tried subbing to some mods afterwards (including Skyve), but somehow when I start to include assets (no matter which ones), at some point all mods get deactivated/unsubbed.

I did a clean reinstall (MacOS) and currently try to reopen my save. Stupid me forgot to copy the LSM asset reports before the reinstall, so I'm trying to remember as many assets as I can. But the problem persists: After a while, when I restart the game all mods disappear, I'm not subbed to any anymore.

Sooo ... I mean I can always start from scratch, but that would really, really hurt because I put a lot of effort in the details and everything. Anyways, is there anything that might help? One thing I'm not sure of if it might have to do with a network, because these were the first ones missing, but I don't know.

All mods and assets I used were free of conflict in Skyve before all this happened, especially the networks were from trusted creators only.

[pinke]

Is there maybe a limit for the number of networks you can/should use? I use a lot of asymmetrical, monorail and bike networks from the workshop.

[MarkJohnson]

First thing I would do is unsubscribe Skyve. I've had a lot of random issues with the mod.

Now, backup your workshop folder wherever you installed Steam on your computer.
The default is at: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\workshop

Then reboot your computer and launch only Steam and hopefully some or most of your workshop reappears or at least starts re-downloading workshop again.

When Steam finishes all downloads, go to the Steam workshop at the top of this page, go to your account, then "Subscribed Items" then click the "Save to Collection" option and fill it all out and it will create a workshop collection of everything it found so far.

Hopefully you didn't lose anything and hopefully you can remember any missing workshop that you can resubscribe to again.

If this happens again, please don't start uninstalling things, unsubscribing things, or worst of all don't ever delete anything. There is never a good reason to delete anything. At worst, backup the game/workshop or whatever files, then you can safely uninstall, delete, or unsubscribe at will.

I wish you luck, and don't forget to ask follow up question if needed.

[pinke]

Thanks! I'll try this and let you know. I'm on MacOS, so hopefully it works similar.

[MaxFX]

I've had some of these issues as well, where random Workshop content went missing. Don't know if this is caused by Skyve or not, but I followed the recommendations of Chameleon (one of the developers of Skyve) and made local versions of the Workshop content I'm using, just like MarkJohnson recommends in his post above.

With these local versions I've never had a single item missing. And Skyve still allows me to manage different profiles. So a win-win.

When you're making local versions of your Workshop content. It is recommended to do this only for your assets, and keep your mods through the Steam Workshop. This is because (some) mods still get updated from time to time, and if you use local versions of these mods, they do not get maintained/updated automatically any more.

[pinke]

So by local versions you mean a backup of the workshop folder? How do these work with Skyve? Honestly it's a complicated undertaking to get Skyve installed on Mac, so I was thinking of ditching it. The only thing that's holding me back from that is that the UnifiedUI (UUI) 2.2.1 - Continued absolutely wants me to use Skyve.

[pinke]

My problem is actually that literally no mods ever get loaded. I'll give the whole thing another try tomorrow, for now after two days of troubleshooting the motivation is a bit gone for me ...

[MaxFX]

Originally posted by pinke:

So by local versions you mean a backup of the workshop folder? How do these work with Skyve? Honestly it's a complicated undertaking to get Skyve installed on Mac, so I was thinking of ditching it. The only thing that's holding me back from that is that the UnifiedUI (UUI) 2.2.1 - Continued absolutely wants me to use Skyve.

Yes, and Skyve tells you that it's better to switch certain older mods because they're no longer maintained, even though they still function properly.

These things are recommendations, but they're not set in stone.

For example, the older version of the Unified UI mod works better than the continued version...

Originally posted by pinke:

So by local versions you mean a backup of the workshop folder? How do these work with Skyve? Honestly it's a complicated undertaking to get Skyve installed on Mac, so I was thinking of ditching it. The only thing that's holding me back from that is that the UnifiedUI (UUI) 2.2.1 - Continued absolutely wants me to use Skyve.

Skyve sees the Workshop content that is in the Workshop folder. And it sees the content in the assets folder in the games directory.

So if you were to copy the content from the Workshop folder into the asset folder in the games directory, Skyve will see them. You can then unsubscribe from all assets (otherwise you'll have two copies of all these assets taking up valuable harddrive space.

I personally don't use Apple products, so regrding installing Skyve on a Mac, I cannot help you there.

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On a Windows PC you can find the Workshop folder here:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\workshop\content\255710

And the 'local' asset folder here:
C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Local\Colossal Order\Cities_Skylines\Addons\Assets

[MarkJohnson]

Originally posted by pinke:

So by local versions you mean a backup of the workshop folder? How do these work with Skyve?

By backup, I meant to copy the whole folder to a separate folder, like in Documents. It is purely a backup you can refer back to. It has all of your assets and mods and their names (in steam code of course), but you will have a source all of your original workshop.

Honestly it's a complicated undertaking to get Skyve installed on Mac, so I was thinking of ditching it.

Yes, Skyve can be a serious pain even in windows! I recommend ditching it until you get workshop working again. At least your mods anyway.

Were you able to create your workshop collection successfully?

The only thing that's holding me back from that is that the UnifiedUI (UUI) 2.2.1 - Continued absolutely wants me to use Skyve.

Isn't that just a custom user interface? You should be able to do this last thing if it's giving you issues. That is just a cosmetic interface. it doesn't actually affect gameplay itself. just how it looks.

Just attack this problem in smaller chunks. Make the collection successfully first. Make a separate collection of mods only. Unsubscribe Skyve and UUi, until the game loads and is playable.

[pinke]

Thanks all for your detailed responses! I'll try my luck, but it's going to be tedious so it may take me a while. I'll let you know what the outcome will be.

[pinke]

So, I'm building everything completely new. Purged the assets while at it. Right now I'm preparing the map for my needs. But I have a problem: I haven't installed the UUI continued, but the discontinued one, and now only a few of the mods show up in there. Is this a common problem, and is there a workaround? I mean I could try to use Skyve again (and copying all relevant folders beforehand), but I'm really hesitant that I end up with nothing but chaos again. Motivation is very low ... ;)

[MaxFX]

Originally posted by pinke:

So, I'm building everything completely new. Purged the assets while at it. Right now I'm preparing the map for my needs. But I have a problem: I haven't installed the UUI continued, but the discontinued one, and now only a few of the mods show up in there. Is this a common problem, and is there a workaround? I mean I could try to use Skyve again (and copying all relevant folders beforehand), but I'm really hesitant that I end up with nothing but chaos again. Motivation is very low ... ;)

Some mods let you choose where you want the mod icon to be, in UUI menu, or on the screen, or both. For these mods I suggest you let the icon appear in the UUI menu.

Other mods do not have this option. For these mods you need to use the 'pin' icon in the UUI menu, and then select the icon from the mod(s) you want in your UUI menu.

I've got about 18 mod icons in my UUI:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3245381602

[pinke]

Hm, 1. I don't see a pin icon in the UUI bar. 2. Intersection Marking Tool, Network Multitool and Node Controller are not in the UUI bar, but at the bottom, half-hidden behind other icons. None of these mods have an option to set them into the UUI, or at least I'm not able to find this option.

Uff, I had set up everything so nicely and now I have to cover all these hurdles again. My brain hurts.

[MaxFX]

Originally posted by pinke:

Hm, 1. I don't see a pin icon in the UUI bar. 2. Intersection Marking Tool, Network Multitool and Node Controller are not in the UUI bar, but at the bottom, half-hidden behind other icons. None of these mods have an option to set them into the UUI, or at least I'm not able to find this option.

Uff, I had set up everything so nicely and now I have to cover all these hurdles again. My brain hurts.

The option to select if the icon is in the UUI, is in the options menu of these mods. So when in-game, press esc. then go to options, and go to the options menu's of these mods.

I've put a circle around the 'pin' icon you can use to add other mod icons. See pic here: https://imgur.com/a/MDjbnL1

[pinke]

Hmmm, I don't know why my details are so different from yours.

My UUI looks like this right now:
https://imgur.com/H6u83iE

In the Network Multitool options, I don't see anything that let's me add it to the UUI bar (unless I just can't look right):
https://imgur.com/UyguulF
https://imgur.com/0N4P6Bg
https://imgur.com/zLS2guE
https://imgur.com/JofONaK
https://imgur.com/8yRzu6s

So UUI seems to be not impletented correctly, right? I'm going crazy, haha ...

[MaxFX]

Originally posted by pinke:

Hmmm, I don't know why my details are so different from yours.

My UUI looks like this right now:
https://imgur.com/H6u83iE

In the Network Multitool options, I don't see anything that let's me add it to the UUI bar (unless I just can't look right):
https://imgur.com/UyguulF
https://imgur.com/0N4P6Bg
https://imgur.com/zLS2guE
https://imgur.com/JofONaK
https://imgur.com/8yRzu6s

So UUI seems to be not impletented correctly, right? I'm going crazy, haha ...

Odd, this is what the Network Multitool options menu looks like for me: https://imgur.com/a/zNJEg9W

This is the version of UUI I'm subscribed to (link below). Don't worry about the 'will be deprecated' in the name, or any Skyve messages you get about this version. This is the version that works better than the continued one (which is probably why I have the option visible in the Network Multitools options menu in the first place...)
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2255219025