Not enough workers for offices and high density commercial

[nueva.daz.villa]

Hi guys, I’ve got a population of 45k and my high density residential is zoned very close to offices and high density commercial zone, it’s zoned like literally next to it, mostly it’s the offices that show that there aren’t enough workers and some show that there aren’t enough educated workers, I zoned a bunch of high density residential zones, like really a load of it but it still won’t fix the issue. I also put 4 high schools and 4 elementary schools but it doesn’t anything. I also put only 1 university but there are only like 150 students. I put a bunch of bus depots and created a bus line all over the city and it still shows that there aren’t enough workers. I’ve been patiently waiting for the students to grow up hoping they would work in offices but it’s been like forever and they don’t do anything. More and more offices and some commercial show that there aren’t enough workers. Can someone please help?

[Doc001]

How many university graduates are there? Did you start with high density?

[nueva.daz.villa]

Publicado originalmente por mynameisdoc001:

How many university graduates are there? Did you start with high density?

90 students at uni, I don’t know about graduates. I also get problems with garbage, I put incinerators in the vicinity but they still show up as not picked up by the garbage trucks

[MarkJohnson]

Is your message not enough workers, or not enough educated workers?

You need a ton of educated workers for high level offices/commerce buildings.

It can take a very long time for workers to be educated. You likely need more schools. You should be plopping schools as soon as you can at the first few milestones of the start of the game.

[nueva.daz.villa]

Publicado originalmente por MarkJohnson:

Is your message not enough workers, or not enough educated workers?

You need a ton of educated workers for high level offices/commerce buildings.

It can take a very long time for workers to be educated. You likely need more schools. You should be plopping schools as soon as you can at the first few milestones of the start of the game.

I put more high schools and elementary schools, soon as I did that, the whole neighbourhood and every office building showed “not enough workers” and “not enough educated workers”. Its literally every building now

[numbat]

Publicado originalmente por nueva.daz.villa:

90 students at uni, I don’t know about graduates. I also get problems with garbage, I put incinerators in the vicinity but they still show up as not picked up by the garbage trucks

As noted in another thread with a similar issue, this can often be due to connectivity and traffic. If the garbage trucks are stuck in traffic then they're not picking up garbage.

It is also my understanding that the little cims don't go back to school. They need to go from elementary -> high school -> university, so plonking down schools and universities takes time to resolve the issue. Public libraries do allow working cims to improve their education level, but that is a very slow process. I normally have lots of these in my cities in any case.

What's your unemployment level like? From what I understand, the game needs an unemployment rate around 8% to be "working ok", and some people will keep it even higher. If yours is lower than 8%, I would start un-zoning office and commercial until it gets to this level, and you might find some of your messages go away.

Cheers,
Chris.

[buda atum]

At 45k and only 90 in your university, you likely haven't educated enough cims for office.

In fact, "problem with garbage" indicates you don't have enough educateds to work in garbage and in schools and other services for that matter.

“Not enough workers” and “not enough educated workers” mean literally that. Solution is to get more cims to move in and educate them.

As a point, with the aim of 1m pops, I don't build any office till I hit about 80k, which is about when I build my first university. Libraries supply all the educated cims I need up till then.

[MarkJohnson]

+1

At 45k and 90 in university, sounds like you just recently unlocked the university. So it will take a while to graduate still, plus you may need multiple universities (and other schools, to level up education more quickly)

[nueva.daz.villa]

Publicado originalmente por buda atum:

At 45k and only 90 in your university, you likely haven't educated enough cims for office.

In fact, "problem with garbage" indicates you don't have enough educateds to work in garbage and in schools and other services for that matter.

“Not enough workers” and “not enough educated workers” mean literally that. Solution is to get more cims to move in and educate them.

As a point, with the aim of 1m pops, I don't build any office till I hit about 80k, which is about when I build my first university. Libraries supply all the educated cims I need up till then.

You don’t build offices til 80k? Do you build industry instead?

[buda atum]

Publicado originalmente por nueva.daz.villa:

You don’t build offices til 80k? Do you build industry instead?

No office nor high density commercial and residential till I build first Campus, and that's usually by 80-100k.

Each Industry (in DLC) requires about 1500-2000 employees to supply the unique factories, so that's usually my first priority, plus specialised (generic zoned oil, ore, wood, farms), and organic and leisure commercial.

That gives me time and space to plan metro which is required so high density residential traffic does not ruin game.

Highly educated are produced by libraries which I ensure all cims have easy access to.

Mods that help, though not essential:
Rebalanced Industry Revisited
Realistic Population 2 2.2.3

[nueva.daz.villa]

Publicado originalmente por buda atum:

Publicado originalmente por nueva.daz.villa:

You don’t build offices til 80k? Do you build industry instead?

No office nor high density commercial and residential till I build first Campus, and that's usually by 80-100k.

Each Industry (in DLC) requires about 1500-2000 employees to supply the unique factories, so that's usually my first priority, plus specialised (generic zoned oil, ore, wood, farms), and organic and leisure commercial.

That gives me time and space to plan metro which is required so high density residential traffic does not ruin game.

Highly educated are produced by libraries which I ensure all cims have easy access to.

Mods that help, though not essential:
Rebalanced Industry Revisited
Realistic Population 2 2.2.3

I did as you said, I didn’t zone offices until 80k. But I already zoned high density residential and high density commercial zones. I only have 30k pop. Should I start all over again because I zoned high residential and commercial or can I still continue without problems?

[MarkJohnson]

All you should need to do is build more schools to get at least half of your students at max education. I'd just let the game run for an hour or two and wait for the cims to graduate. I think it takes about 3.5 hours at x3 speed to go graduate, IIRC. Keep a close eye on your city as things may get out of balance and you may to fix certain other things in your city.

[nueva.daz.villa]

Publicado originalmente por MarkJohnson:

All you should need to do is build more schools to get at least half of your students at max education. I'd just let the game run for an hour or two and wait for the cims to graduate. I think it takes about 3.5 hours at x3 speed to go graduate, IIRC. Keep a close eye on your city as things may get out of balance and you may to fix certain other things in your city.

Ok will do. Which schools do you mean? All of them? I always build elementary, high school, uni and public library next to each other and my goal is to build them relatively not too far from each other in every neighbourhood when I get the money.

[WhiteKnight77]

You do not need that many universities. The cims will travel to one when they are ready to go. At least place an elementary school and a high school in your neighborhoods. If you have really large neighborhoods, have at least 2 elementary schools.

[nueva.daz.villa]

Publicado originalmente por WhiteKnight77:

You do not need that many universities. The cims will travel to one when they are ready to go. At least place an elementary school and a high school in your neighborhoods. If you have really large neighborhoods, have at least 2 elementary schools.

Two elementary and two high schools per large neighbourhood? Or one high school?

[WhiteKnight77]

High schools tend to hold more students than elementary school. A 2 to 1 ratio of elementary to high school should help with getting your cims educated. Add a university as soon as as you get it, then add at a similar population increase.