Planes Disappearing at Stands

[northgareptile]

Has anyone come across this? I've built two "test" airports in new saves to get an idea of how they look and work and haven't had any problems. Now that I've built my first airport in a fresh, new save going forward, planes are disappearing when they enter the stands (doesn't seem to happen every time, though, but definitely 70% to 80% of the time). Could anyone tell me what's going on?

[CO_Avanya]

Are you using any mods? Or does this happen in a completely unmodded city?

[northgareptile]

Originally posted by CO_Avanya:

Are you using any mods? Or does this happen in a completely unmodded city?

I only 53 Workshop items altogether, but most are just assets and intercestions.

[Ripp]

Likely something in the coding of the new update. But let me ask you this. Do you have any opportunity to check the planes before they disappear to see if any passengers are on board? In the game there's really no reason for them to take off if there's no one riding on them.

[CO_Avanya]

Originally posted by northgareptile:

Originally posted by CO_Avanya:

Are you using any mods? Or does this happen in a completely unmodded city?

I only 53 Workshop items altogether, but most are just assets and intercestions.

First check to make sure all stands have a taxiway entering and one exiting them, so the planes can leave again. If they cannot leave, they will despawn.

If that's all as it should be, please add the launch options -noWorkshop and -disableMods to see if it still happens. If it does, then please report it on our support forum[forum.paradoxplaza.com] so we can investigate further.

How To Set Launch Options

• Right-click on the game title under the Library in Steam and select Properties.
  
• Enter the launch options you wish to apply in the box (be sure to separate each code with a space). Should look like this:
  

  -noWorkshop -disableMods

• Close the game's Properties window and launch the game.

[northgareptile]

Originally posted by CO_Avanya:

Originally posted by northgareptile:

I only 53 Workshop items altogether, but most are just assets and intercestions.

First check to make sure all stands have a taxiway entering and one exiting them, so the planes can leave again. If they cannot leave, they will despawn.

If that's all as it should be, please add the launch options -noWorkshop and -disableMods to see if it still happens. If it does, then please report it on our support forum[forum.paradoxplaza.com] so we can investigate further.

How To Set Launch Options

• Right-click on the game title under the Library in Steam and select Properties.
  
• Enter the launch options you wish to apply in the box (be sure to separate each code with a space). Should look like this:
  

  -noWorkshop -disableMods

• Close the game's Properties window and launch the game.

Hi! Thank you so much. I've laid taxiways correctly, but it seems that somehow the disappearing planes only happens on CC maps, not base game ones. Also, is there anything being done about taxiways bogging down the gameplay? I know quite a few people have been having issues, myself included. It makes building a sprawling airport hard to do without compromising the experience.

[BadlyStitched]

I had the same issue. In my case, I thought I had laid the taxiways correctly but I hadn't. The planes will not reverse beyond the start of their stand, so if the exit taxiway does not lead to a runway from the actual end of the stand, the planes will disappear. Initially, I had the taxiway going across in a straight line and then I connect the taxiway to each of the stands - this is when they were despawning. When I connect the exit taxi way directly to the base of the stand (the third node - i.e where the planes tail sits) then it worked perfectly. :) This may not be your problem, but I thought I'd share my fix.

[northgareptile]

Originally posted by BadlyStitched:

I had the same issue. In my case, I thought I had laid the taxiways correctly but I hadn't. The planes will not reverse beyond the start of their stand, so if the exit taxiway does not lead to a runway from the actual end of the stand, the planes will disappear. Initially, I had the taxiway going across in a straight line and then I connect the taxiway to each of the stands - this is when they were despawning. When I connect the exit taxi way directly to the base of the stand (the third node - i.e where the planes tail sits) then it worked perfectly. :) This may not be your problem, but I thought I'd share my fix.

My problem is the plane disappearing immediately after stopping at the stand, but the little gate ramp and baggage trucks would still do their animation like normal, but with no plane there.

[CO_Avanya]

Originally posted by northgareptile:

Hi! Thank you so much. I've laid taxiways correctly, but it seems that somehow the disappearing planes only happens on CC maps, not base game ones. Also, is there anything being done about taxiways bogging down the gameplay? I know quite a few people have been having issues, myself included. It makes building a sprawling airport hard to do without compromising the experience.

We're currently investigating the reports of performance issues due to taxiways.

As for your disappearing planes, your runway may connect to two different plane paths on the map. These are invisible (can be seen and edited with More Network Stuff, though back up your save if you do this!) and tend to be at the edges of the map. But connecting to two different paths would cause planes to try to exit from an unreachable outside connection.

[Shifter]

Modded or unmodded my results are the same outcome. It's due to the Taxi way being improperly set up. Upon fixing the Taxi way, modded or unmodded, the planes stop disappearing

[northgareptile]

Originally posted by CO_Avanya:

Originally posted by northgareptile:

Hi! Thank you so much. I've laid taxiways correctly, but it seems that somehow the disappearing planes only happens on CC maps, not base game ones. Also, is there anything being done about taxiways bogging down the gameplay? I know quite a few people have been having issues, myself included. It makes building a sprawling airport hard to do without compromising the experience.

We're currently investigating the reports of performance issues due to taxiways.

As for your disappearing planes, your runway may connect to two different plane paths on the map. These are invisible (can be seen and edited with More Network Stuff, though back up your save if you do this!) and tend to be at the edges of the map. But connecting to two different paths would cause planes to try to exit from an unreachable outside connection.

So what you're suggesting is that I might have my runways set in a particular place to where the planes taking off can't reach a plane path, and since the exit path is generated as the plane reaches the stand, it might detect that is has nowhere to "go" so it disappears?

[northgareptile]

Originally posted by Shifter:

Modded or unmodded my results are the same outcome. It's due to the Taxi way being improperly set up. Upon fixing the Taxi way, modded or unmodded, the planes stop disappearing

I'm fairly certain that my taxiways are properly set up.

[CO_Avanya]

Originally posted by northgareptile:

Originally posted by CO_Avanya:

We're currently investigating the reports of performance issues due to taxiways.

As for your disappearing planes, your runway may connect to two different plane paths on the map. These are invisible (can be seen and edited with More Network Stuff, though back up your save if you do this!) and tend to be at the edges of the map. But connecting to two different paths would cause planes to try to exit from an unreachable outside connection.

So what you're suggesting is that I might have my runways set in a particular place to where the planes taking off can't reach a plane path, and since the exit path is generated as the plane reaches the stand, it might detect that is has nowhere to "go" so it disappears?

Yup, that's what I suspect. If this is the case, you will occasionally have planes land on the runway, drive the full length of it and take off again. You can try removing the runway and placing it in a different place and at a different angle to see if that solves it for you.

[northgareptile]

Originally posted by CO_Avanya:

Originally posted by northgareptile:

So what you're suggesting is that I might have my runways set in a particular place to where the planes taking off can't reach a plane path, and since the exit path is generated as the plane reaches the stand, it might detect that is has nowhere to "go" so it disappears?

Yup, that's what I suspect. If this is the case, you will occasionally have planes land on the runway, drive the full length of it and take off again. You can try removing the runway and placing it in a different place and at a different angle to see if that solves it for you.

I just don't know if that's it. Is there any way that I can submit a short video clip of what I'm experiencing?

[northgareptile]

Originally posted by CO_Avanya:

Originally posted by northgareptile:

So what you're suggesting is that I might have my runways set in a particular place to where the planes taking off can't reach a plane path, and since the exit path is generated as the plane reaches the stand, it might detect that is has nowhere to "go" so it disappears?

Yup, that's what I suspect. If this is the case, you will occasionally have planes land on the runway, drive the full length of it and take off again. You can try removing the runway and placing it in a different place and at a different angle to see if that solves it for you.

Here is a youtube link of the problem I'm experiencing. Maybe seeing first hand might help. I uploaded this video myself.
https://youtu.be/1KadUFN9eXw

[CO_Avanya]

Originally posted by northgareptile:

Originally posted by CO_Avanya:

Yup, that's what I suspect. If this is the case, you will occasionally have planes land on the runway, drive the full length of it and take off again. You can try removing the runway and placing it in a different place and at a different angle to see if that solves it for you.

Here is a youtube link of the problem I'm experiencing. Maybe seeing first hand might help. I uploaded this video myself.
https://youtu.be/1KadUFN9eXw

Planes are landing and taking off, so the airport is definitely working. For the despawning planes, please make a report on our support forum and attach the save there, so we can investigate further. Thanks!

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/forums/support-bug-reports.879/