Subscription Service

[The Gormless One]

Say a subscription service to let you play with ALL the DLC for 30 days came out, like with Crusader Kings 2, how would you respond?

[Verullus Forgefire]

I don't need it since I own every necessary DLC's for this game.
As you have mentioned it, it already exist for other Paradox game's so it might also come to this one at some point. However I believe it is more expensive then buying the actual game + DLC's.. at least in the long run..

[AlexTECPlayz]

Remove everything Paradox-related from my account. Slimy money-hungry pricks that buy out games from devs and ruin them.

[The Gormless One]

Originally posted by Verullus Forgefire:

I don't need it since I own every necessary DLC's for this game.
As you have mentioned it, it already exist for other Paradox game's so it might also come to this one at some point. However I believe it is more expensive then buying the actual game + DLC's.. at least in the long run..

Listen, PLEASE don't think this is an attack on your opinion, by all means I believe this is a valid way of thinking and I'm not battling it, I just want to share what I think.

My thought process is, if it's 5 bucks every month (like Crusader Kings 2) for all the DLC, and it costs 227 something for every single DLC, that's 45 months at least. To someone who can't break his bank over the 167 I'd actually have to pay for the DLC (33 months), that's still over two years of owning all the DLCs before it becomes more expensive. I don't know, maybe it's not as worth it as I thought, but I just think it'd be really nice.

But I think what you said is completely valid, you have a right to that thought, and that idea, and I can't tell you otherwise. It'd just make it worth it to me, but since you already have all the DLC, or people that have most or almost all the DLC might be playing it, it wouldn't be worth it in the slightest.

[Tsubame ⭐]

Not me since I already own all that I want - both for PC and PS4 - but for the correct price others may be interested.

[Cahos Rahne Veloza]

$5 USD a month MAY BE CHEAP for you, but do know that IN SOME OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD $5 USD is already a family of four's one week of Food allowance so I AM GRATEFUL this game has no bullplop Subscription service.

[ScottishLad]

Originally posted by The Skin Scout:

Originally posted by Verullus Forgefire:

I don't need it since I own every necessary DLC's for this game.
As you have mentioned it, it already exist for other Paradox game's so it might also come to this one at some point. However I believe it is more expensive then buying the actual game + DLC's.. at least in the long run..

Listen, PLEASE don't think this is an attack on your opinion, by all means I believe this is a valid way of thinking and I'm not battling it, I just want to share what I think.

My thought process is, if it's 5 bucks every month (like Crusader Kings 2) for all the DLC, and it costs 227 something for every single DLC, that's 45 months at least. To someone who can't break his bank over the 167 I'd actually have to pay for the DLC (33 months), that's still over two years of owning all the DLCs before it becomes more expensive. I don't know, maybe it's not as worth it as I thought, but I just think it'd be really nice.

But I think what you said is completely valid, you have a right to that thought, and that idea, and I can't tell you otherwise. It'd just make it worth it to me, but since you already have all the DLC, or people that have most or almost all the DLC might be playing it, it wouldn't be worth it in the slightest.

But as he said, necessary DLCs . cut out the useless ones or the ones that add nothing the workshop doesn't (Bridges etc) and you are a lot less. Sure for a while it may be cheaper, but what about later down the line after it's no longer economically viable? What about years later when you want to go back?

You aren't wrong, a subscription would be cheaper up until a certain point. It'd be more efficient to use the subscription for a month or two to see what DLCs you'd like to permanently purchase then purchasing them. But, as people said. DLC subscriptions are a money hungry scheme. Especially considering most DLCs now add nothing the workshop can't.

[YoongZY]

Originally posted by Cahos Rahne Veloza:

$5 USD a month MAY BE CHEAP for you, but do know that IN SOME OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD $5 USD is already a family of four's one week of Food allowance so I AM GRATEFUL this game has no bullplop Subscription service.

$5 USD =
1.50 KWD
21.05 MYR
25.57 BRL
32.39 CNY
38.83 HKD
43.40 SEK
72.10 ZAR
99.46 MXN
140.04 TWD
164.02 THB
219.54 UYU
251.87 PHP
370.37 RUB
373.19 INR
424.20 BDT
550.28 JPY
599.91 NPR
1523.09 HUF
3780.45 CLP
5710.33 KRW
47610.26 LAK
155223.22 VND

Living in Malaysia 5 USD is like skipping a breakfast

[Elegant Caveman]

Subscription services are a scam.

They're not inherently bad, and could be an interesting choice if priced adequately, but that never happens.

The whole point of subscription models is to get you to pay more. It's psychological trickery to get you to waste your money in the long term by tempting you with a smaller number short-term.

Originally posted by The Skin Scout:

My thought process is, if it's 5 bucks every month (like Crusader Kings 2) for all the DLC, and it costs 227 something for every single DLC, that's 45 months at least.

Or you could be smart enough to not buy everything at full price. There are 50% off sales quite often, and with patience/luck, you can get it for even cheaper.

It's pretty rare, but there's been a few bundles.

[Verullus Forgefire]

Originally posted by The Skin Scout:

Originally posted by Verullus Forgefire:

I don't need it since I own every necessary DLC's for this game.
As you have mentioned it, it already exist for other Paradox game's so it might also come to this one at some point. However I believe it is more expensive then buying the actual game + DLC's.. at least in the long run..

Listen, PLEASE don't think this is an attack on your opinion, by all means I believe this is a valid way of thinking and I'm not battling it, I just want to share what I think.

My thought process is, if it's 5 bucks every month (like Crusader Kings 2) for all the DLC, and it costs 227 something for every single DLC, that's 45 months at least. To someone who can't break his bank over the 167 I'd actually have to pay for the DLC (33 months), that's still over two years of owning all the DLCs before it becomes more expensive. I don't know, maybe it's not as worth it as I thought, but I just think it'd be really nice.

But I think what you said is completely valid, you have a right to that thought, and that idea, and I can't tell you otherwise. It'd just make it worth it to me, but since you already have all the DLC, or people that have most or almost all the DLC might be playing it, it wouldn't be worth it in the slightest.

No offence taken.. I got most of the DLC's one by one when they came out and for me such a price is feasible. If you first start gaming this game now I would not buy any DLC's before they are on sale.. otherwise the subscription service is a good idea as service and updates can be provided for many years to come.. although then I would expect them to update the game engine and whatever else can be updated.
There are similar subscription services available here on Steam although I have no idea if they are changing in prices if you for example move to the Philippines or Brazil, to adjust to the local economy.

[jhughes]

I would think you would need to be careful to not get involved with something that is not legal / approved by the developer.

Assuming it is legal.. Do what you want.

Technically, if you play the game.. They need to have bought it for you. You can't let 5 people all play a game bought one time in a shared subscription.

So, unless Paradox is running the subscription service.. I'd say no.

I mean.. I do the EA subscription service on steam.. I like it and play many games I would not have bought.

I do the Kindle subscription service where I read 10 books at a time only. They all have their place.

[WhiteKnight77]

Originally posted by jhughes:

I would think you would need to be careful to not get involved with something that is not legal / approved by the developer.

Assuming it is legal.. Do what you want.

Technically, if you play the game.. They need to have bought it for you. You can't let 5 people all play a game bought one time in a shared subscription.

So, unless Paradox is running the subscription service.. I'd say no.

I mean.. I do the EA subscription service on steam.. I like it and play many games I would not have bought.

I do the Kindle subscription service where I read 10 books at a time only. They all have their place.

I believe he is talking about Paradox running the subscription service.

[Gambatte]

Sitting at my desk, playing a game that requires no interaction with other players of the same game ... no, absolutely not.

Apply this "$5 USD subcription" idea for all the games you play in a month. 6 games already equals $30 USD/mo. Throw in an MMO which is typically $15 USD/mo if not F2P (hate store/micro transaction shops) you're at $45 USD/mo. That's nearly the cost of a new game every month ... NO thank you.

Its like the folks that complain about cable costing so much a month ($60-$80/mo or more) then turn around and spend $100+/mo for Amazon Prime, Hulu, Netflix, Swing, Disney+, CBS All Access, plus what ever sports package they want in order to get the same content or less. Blows my mind

[Dr. Marijuana Pepsi]

If like ck2 they offered a subscription while also selling the DLC it would be great. I don't know why others framed it as a one or the other scenario. The subscription would lower the barrier for entry for players who want to try the DLC but don't want to invest hundreds of dollars into a game they might not stick with.

[snowflitzer]

I would stop playing the game and look for another one

[Finaldest]

I stopped renting when I grew up and got a job at 16.

Just save your money and buy the DLC if you must have it, You will potentially save hundreds if not thousands of pounds in the future. If you want to see what a Game and DLC has to offer then go onto YouTube and watch a gameplay review.

The subscription model is a predatory rip off practice and in my opinion should be banned. Its structured to give you instant gratification while slowly extracting money from your pocket. Do this over multiple games and this will add up to serious cash very quickly. You will NEVER own anything by renting something.

Edit

Just looked at my games library and have over 500 games. Imagine if I had rented all those games?. I would not own any games but still have spent a similar amount of money if not more. See, Its a scam.