Infinite trains spawning

[Herr Gamer]

So... In my current city I've recently run into a weird problem, in which there's constantly trains coming from other cities into mine. (So it doesn't have anything to do with my public transport budget.)
And I'm not just talking about a few trains, I mean that there's not a single moment in time in which a rail doesn't have at least one train on it. So, obviously, this is starting to clog up my train intersections and my entire rail network in general.

So, my question is: Has anyone ever heard of this bug and is there a way to fix it? I've tried googling but I seem to be the only person encountering this.
Something else that might be interesting is, that I have different train assets installed, but I disabled them all using the vehicle mod manager, so I doubt it has to do with that... Besides this, I don't have any other mods that mess with train traffic.

[Mansen]

Sounds like you have a clog somewhere to be honest...

[Herr Gamer]

Nope, I've had this bug for a while but was able to cope with it up until now. Ever since then, there's just an extraordinary amount of trains spawning, they're always coming from only one direction as well, not from any others.

[BonPadre]

Maybe you need to read that guide... you should have only very few (1 passenger and 1 or 2 cargo stations) connected to the outer lines, then you create separately your own train network... it's a known game mechanic that spawn trains.

Have a good reading with this guide, it's the answer to your issues
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=408643569&searchtext=high+train

[Herr Gamer]

Originally posted by BonPadre:

Maybe you need to read that guide... you should have only very few (1 passenger and 1 or 2 cargo stations) connected to the outer lines, then you create separately your own train network... it's a known game mechanic that spawn trains.

Have a good reading with this guide, it's the answer to your issues
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=408643569&searchtext=high+train

Not really, since there's literally an infinite amount of passenger trains coming from other cities with 0 people in them, which all go to one passenger station and nowhere else. I'm positive this is not just me not understanding the game mechanics, but rather an actual bug in the game. (Especially since it started all of a sudden, and wasn't a gradual development.)

[grapplehoeker]

Originally posted by Herr Gamer:

Originally posted by BonPadre:

Maybe you need to read that guide... you should have only very few (1 passenger and 1 or 2 cargo stations) connected to the outer lines, then you create separately your own train network... it's a known game mechanic that spawn trains.

Have a good reading with this guide, it's the answer to your issues
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=408643569&searchtext=high+train

Not really, since there's literally an infinite amount of passenger trains coming from other cities with 0 people in them, which all go to one passenger station and nowhere else. I'm positive this is not just me not understanding the game mechanics, but rather an actual bug in the game. (Especially since it started all of a sudden, and wasn't a gradual development.)

Every single station that is connected to the intercity connection will generate trains from the outside... therefore reduce it to 1 per outside connection.

[Herr Gamer]

Alright, I isolated my inner-city train lines and outer-city train lines, it seems to have done the trick. Thanks!

[Herr Gamer]

Update: Nope, it didn't. I removed all the passenger trains using the vehicle manager to make sure the existing traffic jam would go away faster. After doing so, I didn't see any more passenger trains coming in, so I thought the problem was solved.
Well, fast-forward 10 minutes and now, there's a ton of passenger trains again, even though this time, there's a bit less and they don't clog up my public transport.

[BonPadre]

What I'm not sure you do understand is that (and sorry I'm not english native speaker and I know I can sometimes misunderstand things, so keep that in mind I may misunderstand what you try to explain)... for *importing* tourists in your city, you really need only 1 passenger station in your city... that station is an isolated station just connected to the outer city train line It's a DEAD END station (That is VERY important). Then on the other side of the road, you build an other passenger station and from that very station then you build your ciy train lines... those train tracks SHOULD NEVER be connected to outer world... the tourists will then just cross the street and use both stations... one to come in your city, and then the inner one to visit your city...

Doing so will prevent the game to spam trains like crazy, because like Grapplehoeker said, for every station that is connected to the outer line, it will generate passenger trains... that will cause issues.

The way you describe your train network is pretty much confusing me as you said both things...
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Originally posted by Herr Gamer:

Not really, since there's literally an infinite amount of passenger trains coming from other cities with 0 people in them, which all go to one passenger station and nowhere else.

So here I understand you only have 1 station
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Originally posted by Herr Gamer:

Alright, I isolated my inner-city train lines and outer-city train lines, it seems to have done the trick. Thanks!

And there it means you have more than 1 station... so maybe you forgot a piece of track that still connects to the outer world from your inner lines

If you do so, and still have an issue, then it may be mod or asset related, as with Vanilla, using that way of doing things I never had any issues with train jams and spamming trains.

[Herr Gamer]

What I meant with

Originally posted by Herr Gamer:

Not really, since there's literally an infinite amount of passenger trains coming from other cities with 0 people in them, which all go to one passenger station and nowhere else.

was that all the bugged trains were only going to 1 station, even though I had a lot more stations connected to train lines going out of my city.

After people suggested I'd do it as you suggested, I isolated the inner-city stations and made a new station that was purely there to get tourists into my city. Unfortunately, now, there are still tons and tons of passenger trains coming from other cities with no one in them. Since my current station can't hold up with a new train arriving every few seconds, it starts to clog up the rest of my system, which, in this case, supplies my cargo stations with cargo trains.

[grapplehoeker]

Better a picture than words.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=492700183
Intercity isolated from innercity and at no point do cargo and passenger lines share track.

[Herr Gamer]

Intercity is isolated from innercity, the point you made about cargo and passenger lines doesn't really apply to me and my problem since you're not supposed to get ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of empty passenger trains coming from other cities for no reason.

[grapplehoeker]

Originally posted by Herr Gamer:

Intercity is isolated from innercity, the point you made about cargo and passenger lines doesn't really apply to me and my problem since you're not supposed to get ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of empty passenger trains coming from other cities for no reason.

I assumed that that did apply when you said,

Since my current station can't hold up with a new train arriving every few seconds, it starts to clog up the rest of my system, which, in this case, supplies my cargo stations with cargo trains.

How can passenger trains be clogging up cargo if they do not share track?
It's also a bit worrying when you mention cargo stations (plural), when there should only be one per outside connection.
I think we need to actually see your rail layout, because your descriptions are getting a little confused. Please post a screenshot or upload your save game and set it to 'Share' via the content manager.

[Herr Gamer]

Originally posted by grapplehoeker:

Originally posted by Herr Gamer:

Intercity is isolated from innercity, the point you made about cargo and passenger lines doesn't really apply to me and my problem since you're not supposed to get ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of empty passenger trains coming from other cities for no reason.

I assumed that that did apply when you said,

Since my current station can't hold up with a new train arriving every few seconds, it starts to clog up the rest of my system, which, in this case, supplies my cargo stations with cargo trains.

How can passenger trains be clogging up cargo if they do not share track?
It's also a bit worrying when you mention cargo stations (plural), when there should only be one per outside connection.
I think we need to actually see your rail layout, because your descriptions are getting a little confused. Please post a screenshot or upload your save game and set it to 'Share' via the content manager.

I have 1 passenger train station that goes to the outside, I also have 3 cargo train stations that go to the outside. I have about 4 other passenger train stations that do not connect to the outside.
There are constant passenger trains coming into the one passenger train station that is connected to the outside. This clogs up everything, including my freight stations, since both are on the same track. (NOT my inner-city train stations)

[BonPadre]

Well then even if I'm not a fan of sharing the same lines with cargo and passengers (for same reason than Grapplehoeker) if you really have only 1 passenger and 4 cargo stations connected to the outside, you shoud not experiment that amount of train spamming...

So either you have some clogging on an intersection and you have a line of waiting trains due to a badly designed intersection (on your city done by yourself or on a tile you still don't own so not your fault, but that you can correct latergame when you have acess... or worst on a place on the map you will not access later on (unless using 81 tiles I guess). so when the train that is causing the clogging despawn, maybe it just release all the other clogged trains... check that first.

Then if all intersections are good, as I told you in my first post, it may then well be asset or mod related. As I said in my first post, I'm mostly a vanilla player, not beeing mod crazy, so I never experimented what you describe with only 4 stations connected to the outer world...

[Herr Gamer]

Originally posted by BonPadre:

Well then even if I'm not a fan of sharing the same lines with cargo and passengers (for same reason than Grapplehoeker) if you really have only 1 passenger and 4 cargo stations connected to the outside, you shoud not experiment that amount of train spamming...

So either you have some clogging on an intersection and you have a line of waiting trains due to a badly designed intersection (on your city done by yourself or on a tile you still don't own so not your fault, but that you can correct latergame when you have acess... or worst on a place on the map you will not access later on (unless using 81 tiles I guess). so when the train that is causing the clogging despawn, maybe it just release all the other clogged trains... check that first.

Then if all intersections are good, as I told you in my first post, it may then well be asset or mod related. As I said in my first post, I'm mostly a vanilla player, not beeing mod crazy, so I never experimented what you describe with only 4 stations connected to the outer world...

Well, using the vehicle mod manager, I removed all trains on the map several times already, but 10 minutes later my entire system will, again, be clogged up... So I guess it might really be the fault of a mod. Which is weird, because the only 2 things I have installed that mess with raffic is traffic++ V2 (the advanced AI isn't enabled) and the vehicle mod manager, with which I turned all the custom trains off already.