What really is CS2?

[OldyButCrafty]

In my opinion CS2 is everything "we" did not ask for in CS1 and completly stripped of everything we grew to love in CS1.

And down the toilet like yesterday's dinner.

[Ska_Hansen]

CS1 is the way better game.

And technical CS2 is to GPU heavy, 170 Watt with 45 fps (GPU usage at 98%) is a joke.

and the simulation ist broken af.

[Niviob]

CS2 is made of broken dreams

[Viking2121]

Originally posted by Ska_Hansen:

CS1 is the way better game.

And technical CS2 is to GPU heavy, 170 Watt with 45 fps (GPU usage at 98%) is a joke.

and the simulation ist broken af.

GPU heavy no, CPU heavy, yes. CS2 don't even try to touch my 3090ti at 3440x1440, but CPU usage on a small city of 20k pop sits at 100% a lot of the time, on a 5900x with 24 threads, Though once the city gets big enough, CPU usage drops more and more.

CS1 is a pathetic mess for modern hardware, it just wasn't made for it, so any mid rang system from 5 years ago the game just wont utilize at all.

Though I agree, it is a better game atm, even without mods, CS1 is just better when it comes to content, and I feel it offers more a challenge at the start as CS2 I never really had money issues or watch my budget, every milestone they give you so much I sorta don't understand what the point in playing with money enabled is about.

[Major Kudos™]

CS2 is doomed if the can't fix the SloJam.

[OnO]

NO CS2. Just make CS1 even better >:( Greedy Paradox and devs striking again.

[Maya-Neko]

Well, CS1 is quite bad on the traffic side. It was quite good back then, when Sim City was the only comparison, but it definitely has big flaws, which we had to fix with mods (and even then it was more a band-aid than anything else). So i definitely look forward to CS2 and what it can make.

And obviously CS2 looks like it has no content and optimization, but CS1 was literally at the same point back at its release, there was just no proper competition to visualize, how empty it really was and all the DLCs pretty much show that.

[Stealthy]

Let's compare both in 8 years time when both have had equal development time over the years and all the mods. C:S2 is a great platform for the future.

[SONOFPOLLUX]

CS2 has brought many of the mods over into main features of the game. I can also see once mods come out, many things will become fun. Bugs will be fixed by then, maps will be able to expand larger etc.. Ido agree its heavy, plus i enjoyed the forest fire simulation on CS1 and was sad to see the trees do not get shown as burned and so you cannot see the damage of the fire. The helicopters and water looks nice, wish it had shown the forest burning. Maybe its a bug on my end.

[Tsubame ⭐]

CS2 is a mixed bag for me.

Building is much more pleasurable in CS2. The flow of traffic is more pleasurable to watch as well. Modules do add a lot of potential, especially when it comes to future mods and transportation infrastructure.

That being said, simulation performance is super slow. Even if mods do unlock the rest of the map - only about 1/9th of the map is available to be unlocked, similar to CS1 - I cannot see how CS2 can be playable on that larger area as it already struggles with the available vanilla map tiles.

Plus CS2 is super buggy at the moment.

[caseyas435943]

Never understood companies who release a game full of bugs. It doesn't sell them more units. It only costs them money. People will read reviews and see all the problems and move on. Never coming back to see if the problems ever gets fixed.

People see games all the time where the game gets dumped on the pubic in a hot mess. And then never get fixed. They just barely make a workable game for the money grab. So people get burned a few times and don't buy hot messes knowing they will never get fixed.

CS2 is a hot mess. It was silly to make everyone pay to play it in its present state. It's going to cost them more money releasing it this way than they'll ever make.

I didn't buy it. And probably never will. There's nothing they could add that would make it worth the money. In the end it's just a builder game. CS1 does that now and it very good at it. CS2 from what I've watched added nothing new to the game at all other than port mods over. Mods CS1 already has so why buy CS2 for the mods I have already for free.

[caseyas435943]

Originally posted by Stealthy:

Let's compare both in 8 years time when both have had equal development time over the years and all the mods. C:S2 is a great platform for the future.

If I have to wait 8 years for a game to actually be good, then wow. Talk about a poor release.

So, I pay hard earned money then have to wait 8 years to see if it's money well spent? I think I'll pass on that, thank you very much.

That's the trouble now. Almost every game it complete trash on release. They grab the quick buck. If it doesn't sell the units, they need they never even try and fix the game. It's a wonder why everyone now wants nothing but free to play. Because they know if they pay, they'll probably be screwed with a broken game that will never be fixed.

I never understood them even release a CS2. All it was going to be was CS1 with some mods added and a bigger hit on your computer to make it work.

They could have just release a huge DLC that changed to game engine. And had CS2 with CS1.

Instead, they release a hot mess that one day might be good. Not the best idea.

[NameInvalid]

They could have just release a huge DLC that changed to game engine.

talking is easy

[꧁꧂꧁꧂]

cs1 was fine at launch - saying it was bad is just some copium fanboy fable

[Stealthy]

Originally posted by caseyas435943:

If I have to wait 8 years for a game to actually be good, then wow. Talk about a poor release.

So, I pay hard earned money then have to wait 8 years to see if it's money well spent? I think I'll pass on that, thank you very much.

Way to misunderstand and twist. Great work!

That's the trouble now. Almost every game it complete trash on release. They grab the quick buck. If it doesn't sell the units, they need they never even try and fix the game. It's a wonder why everyone now wants nothing but free to play. Because they know if they pay, they'll probably be screwed with a broken game that will never be fixed.

I never understood them even release a CS2. All it was going to be was CS1 with some mods added and a bigger hit on your computer to make it work.

They could have just release a huge DLC that changed to game engine. And had CS2 with CS1.

Instead, they release a hot mess that one day might be good. Not the best idea.

Nah, it's not a cash grab even if people like to always twist things that way when they don't understand the business model. C:S2 is a much needed update to ageing core and allowed a rewrite on every aspect plus to use latest engine. Partly a big gamble and didn't pay off completely, but at least they know the issues and can work on them to improve, unlike in the old game where they know the issues but are limited by the version of Unity they used.

C:S2 has implemented many features that were either requested to C:S1 or added via mods. It's also more open core with improved mod compatibility which makes it very exciting at the moment. When Paradox Mods is released, we can use various versions of the same mod etc. All integrated directly in game as the access is via main menu.

Haters will always hate, but unbiased will see the potential it offers. Not there yet, but neither was C:S1 after its launch.

[St3amfails]

C1 is great, with a pile of development time behind it.

C2 is a great start with development time in front of it,
Unless you are playing on a potato, it runs great, but you cant blame the game for that. Upgrade your machine.
Games should be designed for cutting edge hardware. That way they aren't dated in 2 years.