waaaaay too many tourists

[ID]

Does anyone know of a way to reduce the number of tourists visiting? My roads are clogged with tourists cars and tourist-filled buses and my rail is clogged with trains full of tourists arriving from all four corners (and going back almost always empty). I have significantly reduced the attractiveness of all tourist sites but that didn't make much difference. Gracias for any idea.

[buttawise]

disable intercity trains.

[BucketBrain]

How many tourists at what population do you have and what kind of public transport optioins do you use ?

[ID]

I have 400K population and around 4500 tourists. I have 2 main train stations (South and Central) and 6 small ones connecting suburbs (3 of which are connected also by metro to the centre). I have 3 intercity bus station (North, East and South) at 3 entrances to the city but only one is used by tourists; all three are connected by metro to the city centre and main train stations. There are also tram and bus lines but they are mainly organized to transport local population around the city.

[BucketBrain]

Tourists are like cims on speed but will prefer publik transport if it offers a good option to get where they want . All parks , attractions and commercials are possible destinations .
What are your overall public transport numbers ( pop/tourists ) ?

[ID]

2700 pop: 2300 tourists

[MarkJohnson]

At 400k pop, you likely are at one of your game limits.

Try watch It! or similar game limit info mods.

Did you build the Space Elevator? It brings in tons of tourist once built.

[ID]

I'm checking it and I haven't reached any limits so far. But what would reaching a limit have to do with the number of tourists?
No Space Elevator, just probably too many tourist sites.

[BucketBrain]

Originally posted by ID:

2700 pop: 2300 tourists

2300 out of only 4500 tourists is not that bad , but in combination with 2700 of 400k usage for pops is pointing to an inefficient public transport system
edit : as l was too slow l deleted the now unnecessary part about the limits

[BucketBrain]

Originally posted by ID:

I'm checking it and I haven't reached any limits so far. But what would reaching a limit have to do with the number of tourists?
No Space Elevator, just probably too many tourist sites.

Hitting the
path unit limit would cause a "not picking up users at public transport stations "
vehicel limit : failed services and delivery
citizen instances : in combination with high tourist count ( 20k and more ) it reduces the numbers of inhabitants using public transport ( = more teleporting ) as displaying tourists has a higher priority . Tourists can´t teleport to their destinations , but will despawn back to their hometown if they can´t do their route in time .

[WhiteKnight77]

If you use a multi-platform station and just connect it to the outside connection and just not allow intercity trains at other stations, tourists will change trains or go to other modes of mass transit to travel to their destination to visit. Use a separate rail network or metro for them to get around your city.

[MarkJohnson]

Originally posted by ID:

I'm checking it and I haven't reached any limits so far. But what would reaching a limit have to do with the number of tourists?

You have an 80k agent limit. 64k citizens and 16k vehicles (bicycles counts as vehicles).

No Space Elevator, just probably too many tourist sites.

More like too many tourist sites spread around. Usually the Unique Buildings, as they seem to get higher tourist priority over parks and commerce.

Hopefully you have them in large tourist trap districts, surrounded by passenger train, planes, and ships to help move them in and out of the outside connections more easily. Also, have a good small metro system inside this district to move cims around more easily inside the tourist trap.

[bspawn]

I'm pretty sure it is possible for a city to deal with that many tourists, i think the solution is better public transport.

For reference: i have a 200k city with 4100 tourists,
public transport 10,000 pop/ 4000 tourists

I found one very useful mod for monitoring and tweaking PT:
"Transport Tool"
Without it i probably would not be able to manage the 30 bus lines (about 100 buses total) and 9 metro lines in my city. The tool makes it easy to see utilization and congestion of lines and jump to trouble spots, it will even give a warning when a line/stop is overloaded, with adjustable threshold for nr of waiting passengers and waiting time.

[ID]

My transport system is not extensive (which is why only 2700 pop are using it). I have only 3 metros (+3 innercity train lines), 5 bus lines and 1 tram line. However, they are carefully organized to cover the whole city and make it very easy to get anywhere, which is why there are very few cars of locals on the streets.
My biggest problem is that, at the Southern entry where most tourists come from, although I've built an intercity bus station with a metro station right across from it (which connects directly to both other metros and both main train stations), nobody is using it! I'm using the Transport Lines Manager and the only line connected to this intercity bus station is from the other end of the city (I wish there was a way to select where the intercity buses are coming from).
As for the limits; the only one I'm close to the limit is citizen instances with 95%.

[R3D Koolaide]

i have the same problem since the update, endless cars on my roads, 1000 people at a random skate park , something is wrong

[bspawn]

Originally posted by ID:

My biggest problem is that, at the Southern entry where most tourists come from, although I've built an intercity bus station with a metro station right across from it (which connects directly to both other metros and both main train stations), nobody is using it!

So they arrive by intercity bus and then do not use local PT - do they continue on foot or do they use a pocket car?

If they use a pocket car that can be solved by using Traffic Manager:PE and enable the "more realistic parking" option. When i disable that i see PT passengers that get off at a stop immediately pop a car.
Realistic parking generally requires having plenty parking options especially at PT hubs near highway entry points into your city so that tourists coming by car can switch to PT.


Because i have presented my city as a reference, i should mention that I have tweaked passenger capacity to be more realistic;
By default mono has more capacity (180) than metro (150) even though the monorail vehicle is clearly smaller... and train does not have much more capacity (240) than metro. I changed it to monorail 140, metro 225, train 310, (cruise ship 300). Busline capacity is solved now that we have official large capacity buses.