Football Stadium a gigantic waste of money?!?!?

[GhostDemon]

Okay guys, so I was wondering, at 200,000 dollars per win, and roughly 30,000 dollars in ticket sales. So say you pull in 230,000 dollars a year from stadium revenue. How is that fiscally responsible?

Lets break it down.

$4,000 per week to have the building on
Free transportation if you give it to them for the duration of the game.
$500 per week for extra security
$9,000 per week to train your players

Grand total $13,500 per week for the year between Football Matches.

$13,500 per week for 52 weeks

It costs roughly $702,000 per year to run.

$702,000 - $230,000 = $472,000 Loss

So just to have the stadium running and a winning football team it costs you $472,000 a year in lost money and I dont even want to think about how much money I lost for the first 5 years I couldnt win a game. Soooo....

Why should I spend this kind of money, even if I can afford it? For the extra 300 tourists?

Is there any way in the future we could change the sport from Soccer to American Football or Hockey, or Baseball so that if we have a winning team we can pull in a nice prize per game that will actually allow us to earn money instead of spend a half a million for one game a year?

What is everyones thoughts?

[Twilight]

my team won me 600.000$

[barrygreybeard]

I have had 9 out of 9 wins without spending the 9000 on training young players, will be interesting to see if that continues!

[GhostDemon]

Like I love the idea because I dont know if anyone here has played the newest sim city, but you get events. You can have a Sports team, Opera Houses, Theatres, ampetheatres, casinos and they all bring money in, not just tourism. I would love to see an update where you can earn money based on how well your casino is doing, or host events in your cities like a rock band comes and plays and you get like 300k ticket sales when you have only had to spend 75 or 100k to host the event.

[barrygreybeard]

The was obviously released to coincide with the Euro2016 tournament which is now taking place but now that the mechanics exist in the game theres no reason to think that they will stop at just football.

[Emperor_Peter]

My stadium holds 700 or 750...i'll have to check later...it doesn't just get you ticket prices and winnings - those tourists bring in other money too if you have commercial zones and specialization around the stadium - i've noticed a (somewhat) massive increase in tourist income during games that almost makes up for the free public transportation.

Alos, i'm still experimenting, but from my initial setup with the stadium, it looks like if you place the stadium, then place a district over it, the stadium settings only apply to that specific district....at least they appear in the row of icons under the district name and only seem to effect that one district...

[maculator]

I guess I#m on the plus side too. I have a tourist district arround my stadium and there is quite a boom. Big Hotels running like crazy. I HATE soccer ites the most boring sport ever invented but the mechanics are cool and I just pray theyll come up with more stuff like that. I just love to watch all my little guys pilgering to the stadium.

[GhostDemon]

I have Tourism and Leisure specilization and regular commercialized zones as well. Except I only get about 150-200 tourists a week. Maybe that goes up on game day, but still guys. I dont see the month that the stadium takes to run a game giving you $400,000 or so during that time. I have since gotten up to $260,000 per win, but I am still losing 410k a year.

Its not that I cant afford to run the stadium because I can, I am just saying it seems like a waste of money. Because I can pretty much have just as many tourists without it than I do with it.

[Whitefang Greytail]

I wonder how they scale the winnings, probably the population size. I get 1.9M per win with the ticket sales at 13k (@20 each) and tourism doing nothing for me. I do have a city with 937k people though and refuse to give everyone free public transport.

[bowthan]

2/3 of the costs are spent in the policy "training youngs in order to be football players".

And if you compare with the stadium which was already in the game (special building level 6 I guess) the costs are the same if you do not activate policies of the stadium (security and training youngs) 4000 per week.

So I think it's a mistake to consider the DLC to be a real new thing. The stadium is better than the one which is already in the game.

[MultiFrαpsεr ツ]

The new free DLC aint bad even tho I do not give a flying ♥♥♥♥ for football

I wish they invented this same mechanic for a new building, like for a Conference Center. Like in SC5. You could host events there like different expo's, song events etc

[StrictNine]

Originally posted by Whitefang Greytail:

I wonder how they scale the winnings, probably the population size. I get 1.9M per win with the ticket sales at 13k (@20 each) and tourism doing nothing for me. I do have a city with 937k people though and refuse to give everyone free public transport.

No free public transport?

You monster you. :p

[Whitefang Greytail]

Originally posted by StrictNine:

Originally posted by Whitefang Greytail:

I wonder how they scale the winnings, probably the population size. I get 1.9M per win with the ticket sales at 13k (@20 each) and tourism doing nothing for me. I do have a city with 937k people though and refuse to give everyone free public transport.

No free public transport?

You monster you. :p

:P

The free public transport is applied city wide. I usually have 20k people in the public transport system at anyone time. The majority shouldn't have a free ride because a game is on.

[NoirMoutton]

The free public transport is applied city wide. I usually have 20k people in the public transport system at anyone time. The majority shouldn't have a free ride because a game is on.

Disagree, It might just be a genius idea- designed to keep private cars off the road encouraging cims to travel by public transport and therefore reducing traffic and easing congestion. Some cities are quite forward thinking and apply lateral thinking to provide solutions in order to ease congestion/pollution. Some Chinese cities encourage car sharing and only allow private cars to travel on alternate days (usually determined by car registration)

[MultiFrαpsεr ツ]

Do like I did, build subway systems and possible elevated railroad tracks over roads with stations on it. There are mant great assets out there to "ease" up the management of these big events

[Whitefang Greytail]

Originally posted by NoirMoutton:

The free public transport is applied city wide. I usually have 20k people in the public transport system at anyone time. The majority shouldn't have a free ride because a game is on.

Disagree, It might just be a genius idea- designed to keep private cars off the road encouraging cims to travel by public transport and therefore reducing traffic and easing congestion. Some cities are quite forward thinking and apply lateral thinking to provide solutions in order to ease congestion/pollution. Some Chinese cities encourage car sharing and only allow private cars to travel on alternate days (usually determined by car registration)

Not quite sure why everyone in the city who isn't heading to the stadium should get free transportation when they usually pay when no event is happening.

I'd accept free public transportation as a continuous policy for increasing usage. I also accept free transport to the big event I attend (usually absorbed/passed on by the organiser). But I should pay when heading home from work while others are going to the football match.

That's what Perth does. I don't get to go home on the trains for free when the footy is on.