NO CSL 2 and here is basically why :)

[Overlord]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcRxz45Mu4c&ab_channel=BierPizzaChips

[ThisHero]

Opprinnelig skrevet av erdbeerchenx:

Imo there are already better developers and publisher available to spent my money on, which to this point did not ignored me or left me in the dark about their roadmaps

i admire your sense of entitlement.
respect.

[Kid Merkury]

Welp- we got some exciting news this week

[ryanvj]

reading this thread is a bliss once CS2 was announced

[DD]

Opprinnelig skrevet av dan0812:

Opprinnelig skrevet av buda atum:

I'd hate to be a modder watching them break my mods only to steal and sell them as DLCs.

Which mods have been stolen and sold as DLCs?

Have you ever tried to land a plane using the Airports DLC? Or tried to pick up garbage around the P&P?

[Overlord]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Kid Merkury:

Welp- we got some exciting news this week

I have to admit I'm surprised, but I rather wont get my hopes up because it will run on the same unity engine. So I dont expect miracles at all.

[Lord]

Ha... so who was saying "No CSL 2" besides the OP? I wasn't one of them was I?
(LOL I might have been!)

Of course now the worry is... will it actually solve some issues, or will it be another KSP 2.

Opprinnelig skrevet av dan0812:

Which mods have been stolen and sold as DLCs?

Hopefully all of the good ones that can be used end up in the base. I hope CSL2 drastically improves mod support by learning from CSL.

1) You can't "steal" something which was given away free in the first place.
(Although it's only fair when mod creators can get some donations for their efforts, unlike the rules set by some (*ahem*KSP*ahem*) greedy companies.

2) Do we want a good follow up, or something that falls short and disappoints everyone? If you want something good, you'll hope that they "steal" anything they can get working.

3) I doubt much (perhaps assets and "concepts") will be re-usable anyway...

I'm not optimistic on this point but I do hope it's the end of obnoxious donut vans and giant clown heads. Let modders do that stuff if they want. Just focus on realism, fundamentals and mod support innovations as much as possible. The content and fan support will come for free after that. I also hope they can find a business model that doesn't involve breaking change DLC spam (or at least, don't break modded stuff for DLC releases).

[Streeto]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Overlord:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Kid Merkury:

Welp- we got some exciting news this week

I have to admit I'm surprised, but I rather wont get my hopes up because it will run on the same unity engine. So I dont expect miracles at all.

Not the same engine, Unity 6 (or just "Unity" now) compared to the old Unity 5.

How better it is, I'm not sure, but surely they haven't gone backwards.

[MarkJohnson]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Overlord:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Kid Merkury:

Welp- we got some exciting news this week

I have to admit I'm surprised, but I rather wont get my hopes up because it will run on the same unity engine. So I dont expect miracles at all.

Actually it is on a completely different Unity engine.

[Brian]

Doesn't matter. CS2 is going to be a DLC machine also, so while I will probably buy the base game, it will be a lot of waiting on sales for deep discounts before I bother with any of the DLCs.

[Overlord]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Brian:

Doesn't matter. CS2 is going to be a DLC machine also, so while I will probably buy the base game, it will be a lot of waiting on sales for deep discounts before I bother with any of the DLCs.

Of course you are right. Paradox model is based basically on releasing dlc every 4-6 months. As long as the content in this DLC is good I dont have problem to buy it. I jumped into CSL probably 2 years after release (I think the latest dlc back then was snowfall). I bought every DLC I have with 30-50% sale and I think these dlc for this sale price were just OK (not full price). To me it really depends what we pay for. This game should have things like seasons, day/night all transport vehicles in the base game. So we wont have to pay for dlcs like after dark or snowall, but I dont mind paying extra for some dlc like mass transit, ND, Industries were. If the DLC will be loaded with decent content + maybe new good maps, scenarios, challenges I think its fine.

[peterslee9]

Overlord and Lord,
Nice to see you both.

Provocation had to be done
and it was listened to.

Into this final year if there is any way to drop full answers and tricks and maneuvers to users for this edition, it will help in preparing others for the new game.

Advantages will matter less for this edition. CS will be set aside.
Full release of info and help when asked in these final months
will only assist others in preparing and better understanding for CS!!.

[DD]

I've had CS2 for years. Well ever after they came with Industries DLC that is. Paid less than 5.00 for the base, got the DLC's and workshop for 0.00 and the simulator acts and does just exactly as I want and expect it to.

[antmancrazylol]

there is a new cities skylines 2 coming out

[Lord]

Yeah you're right up above - the DLC will most likely be cranked out like a Pez dispenser and any substantial modding innovation (including a way for updates to not break mods frequently) is almost certainly not going to happen. Still I'll at least hold off judgment until we see the real thing...

[dan0812]

They will 100% have the DLC mapped out already so it will be interesting to see gameplay and identify what's been left out.