Tunnel and pedestrians

[LegoProfessor]

I have a very long tunnel under a mountain range. Now, by chance, I have noticed how pedestrians have actually entered the tunnel. So I immediately hung on to the person and what does this: Inside the tunnel it changes the road side and goes out again.
Question, is there a possibility to forbid pedestrians the use of a street or at least (underground) the change of the street side?

LEGO-Professor

[Abu]

You could use TMPE to disable the crosswalks at all the nodes before, in, and after the tunnel and see if that does anything.

You could also upgrade the tunnel to a highway, since those don't have sidewalks.

[MessengerOfRage]

use highways... they have no sidewalks... peds can't use them

[Ripp]

Why be so mean? Why not let people walk threw the tunnel if they want to. What's wrong with it?

Coookyman ! .... You too? ... I won't believe it. :)

[OneJasonBradly]

Originally posted by Coookyman:

use highways... they have no sidewalks... peds can't use them

+1 and to Abu
Yes upgrade or change a piece of the road in the mountain to one without a sidewalk, a highway piece or more precise a national road( bidirectional ). A small piece will do. This way you do not disturb the road to the tunnel.

[OneJasonBradly]

Originally posted by Xeyeld/holeymoe:

Why be so mean? Why not let people walk threw the tunnel if they want to. What's wrong with it?

Because it's not your city it's theirs, and they asked a question. What's wrong with you excepting others ideas and let them build what they want or at least help them to that end without judgement as you often do.
Don't be so sad they could after all place a pedestrian tunnel beside the the road. I often thought that because of the designs of the roadway entering a tunnel that it is not designed well for pedestrians. It's not protective enough for drivers always speed in tunnels for one reason or another.

[Ripp]

Wound a little tight are we? Relax. It's just fine with me if Abu wants to keep foot traffic out of his tunnels.

[Abu]

Originally posted by Xeyeld/holeymoe:

Wound a little tight are we? Relax. It's just fine with me if Abu wants to keep foot traffic out of his tunnels.

I don't have any tunnels.

[Ripp]

Great. That's also just fine by me.

[MessengerOfRage]

@Lego:
rereading the convo I want to ask how many pedestrians did use that tunnel?
if it's a substancial ammount you might want to give them an alternative route, like a scenic walkway or a cablecar.

Originally posted by OneJasonBradly:

..., a highway piece or more precise a national road( bidirectional ). ...

lol yeah of course,
my mind somehow allways shortcuts "road from the highway category" to just "highway"

Originally posted by Xeyeld/holeymoe:

Coookyman ! .... You too? ... I won't believe it. :)

lol, you can't belive I am answering a question?
in a literal way as it was asked instead from giving boring opinionated rants?

Originally posted by Xeyeld/holeymoe:

Why be so mean? Why not let people walk threw the tunnel if they want to. What's wrong with it?

from a realism POV everything.
way to dangerous.

[Mansen]

Originally posted by Coookyman:

from a realism POV everything.
way to dangerous.

There is nothing dangerous about having humans walking around in tunnels. If there was, you wouldn't be allowing cars to begin with.

[OneJasonBradly]

Originally posted by Mansen:

Originally posted by Coookyman:

from a realism POV everything.
way to dangerous.

There is nothing dangerous about having humans walking around in tunnels. If there was, you wouldn't be allowing cars to begin with.

I have seen tunnels that have a steel barrier dividing driving and walk areas. As a matter of fact I have only seen one that had "no" barrier between the driving and walking portion. So yes it seem they can be deemed dangerous. I mentioned earlier in real life people speed through tunnels. I suspect it's do to a phobia. That itself would cause a danger.

[Ripp]

Well I guess I'll have to believe it now.

Maybe If I could drive or walk threw the tunnel myself I could see if it seemed safe for people walking. Are there lights in the tunnel? Are there crosswalks?

Always something too scary for me to try. Lucky for me my maps don't usually have mountains.

"boring opinionated rants?" Are there any other way to rant?

I mean now and then 1,000s of people all dye at the same time for no good reason except they may have move to town at nearly the same time. A few people may or may not get their just come up'ns far way under some obscure mountain. What better reason to rant?

Only why should a tunnel under a mountain be any different than any other tunnel? Should all tunnels be banned?

Originally posted by OneJasonBradly:

Xeyeld/holeymoe;
What's wrong with you excepting others ideas and let them build what they want or at least help them to that end without judgement as you often do.

Bless Your Heart💔

What in your wildest dreams makes you think I care one little bit about how the people in "LegoProfessor's" game get around. Or how he plays the game? I simply try to point out that the people in the game likely have more brains than to walk head long into a death trap. If people are entering the tunnel on on end and exiting on the other end with their lives still in tack perhaps there may be no cause for alarm or reason to change. In any case I didn't attempt to get LegoProfessor to either take or reject ANY advice. I made NO judgment. I only asked LegoProfessor to think it threw logically for his or her self.

Now how's that for a rant?

[WhiteKnight77]

Where I live, you cannot get too many places without using a tunnel due to all the rivers (and a bay). The tunnels are part of a highway system and no one is allowed to walk through them outside of DOT workers. And, people do not drive fast through them, they slow down in them. The longer ones are more than a mile long and have speed limits of 55 or 60 MPH and invariably, some will get into the left lane and slow down to 35 MPH or slower.

I always think to myself, speed up, you will get out of it faster.

[MessengerOfRage]

Originally posted by Mansen:

Originally posted by Coookyman:

from a realism POV everything.
way to dangerous.

There is nothing dangerous about having humans walking around in tunnels. If there was, you wouldn't be allowing cars to begin with.

by your logic we shouldn't allow cars on highways because highways are unsave for peds?

Where I live we structurally separate peds and cars even under bridges if the road is somewhat used like an arterial or collector, We build the bridge pillars between cars and peds.

also people seem to think getting hit by a car is the main danger for peds in a tunnel?
I'd say it's ventilation, peds would need to spend 10-20 times as long to cross a tunnel than cars.
And tunnel fires, peds in a tunnel would have no chance, you can't run from smoke and fumes. Even cars can only escape if they are on the right side of the fire.
Mont Blanc tunnel fire cost 39 lives! can't immagine what that would have been if peds were allowed in there to.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mont_Blanc_tunnel_fire

any accident or malfunction in a tunnel is a grave danger to everyone in the whole tunnel not only those directly involved.
the only chance you have is getting out fast enough and you can't outrun smoke.

it's a very very bad idea to have peds and cars build out of combustable materials carrying combustable loads in the same tunnel once it's long enough to prevent instant escape, and OP said it's a "tunnel under a mountain range".

@Kotter:
"Are there any other way to rant?"
as allways sidetracking and besides the point, the point is your rants rarely answer the question at hand. a rant is no answer.
and of course there are other kinds of rants available, like informative or entertaining. I even like reading entertaining rants.
your's on the other hand are just elaborate but in essence empty word conglomerates, full of "if and if nots", "may or may nots" and you stating you have no interest in the topic at hand. like "What in your wildest dreams makes you think I care one little bit about how the people in "LegoProfessor's" game get around."
why even get involved if you don't care?

[Ripp]

Is it really the "empty word conglomerates" that bother you or is it because to date no-one has been able to produce any real evidence off any CS cim having actually died or even having suffered a significant accident or injury in a tunnel? Or could it be that the only really clear an accurate answer to OP's actual question would have been NO?

Kotter