Cities: Skylines

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Name May 3, 2021 @ 4:56pm
Cities Skylines 2
Does anyone have any sources or data talking about a CS 2? Will it happen or no? I haven't dug deep into that and figured some other hardcore fan could chime in with rumors, speculation, or fact.
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AlexTECPlayz May 3, 2021 @ 5:10pm 
No one knows anything, and i don't see the point of it happening.
One thing is for certain though.

Because of player toxicity on mostly every forum Paradox Interactive is involved in, Steam as well as their own Paradox Plaza forums, they've seem to have halted development of their products...

https://www.pcgamer.com/paradox-interactive-says-player-toxicity-is-driving-developers-away-from-its-forums/

... instead of blaming their customers who are angry with their business practices, yeah I'm looking at you Paradox Launcher!, they should just give what their fanbase wants and stop making pigheaded decisions. They're not 2K Games, nor are they EA Games, so why not be the good guy instead :P
Name May 3, 2021 @ 7:59pm 
Originally posted by Cahos Rahne Veloza:
One thing is for certain though.

Because of player toxicity on mostly every forum Paradox Interactive is involved in, Steam as well as their own Paradox Plaza forums, they've seem to have halted development of their products...

https://www.pcgamer.com/paradox-interactive-says-player-toxicity-is-driving-developers-away-from-its-forums/

... instead of blaming their customers who are angry with their business practices, yeah I'm looking at you Paradox Launcher!, they should just give what their fanbase wants and stop making pigheaded decisions. They're not 2K Games, nor are they EA Games, so why not be the good guy instead :P

Oh wow. Definitely not giving another cent to this woke publisher. This is what happens when game developers start going woke and hiring developers who care more about their own social agendas than by producing a product in which the consumer wants.

Had i read this article over the weekend i would have not purchased CS.

What an entitled publisher... smh


LeonardMT May 3, 2021 @ 8:17pm 
Originally posted by Hauptmann:
Originally posted by Cahos Rahne Veloza:
One thing is for certain though.

Because of player toxicity on mostly every forum Paradox Interactive is involved in, Steam as well as their own Paradox Plaza forums, they've seem to have halted development of their products...

https://www.pcgamer.com/paradox-interactive-says-player-toxicity-is-driving-developers-away-from-its-forums/

... instead of blaming their customers who are angry with their business practices, yeah I'm looking at you Paradox Launcher!, they should just give what their fanbase wants and stop making pigheaded decisions. They're not 2K Games, nor are they EA Games, so why not be the good guy instead :P

Oh wow. Definitely not giving another cent to this woke publisher. This is what happens when game developers start going woke and hiring developers who care more about their own social agendas than by producing a product in which the consumer wants.

Had i read this article over the weekend i would have not purchased CS.

What an entitled publisher... smh
Kind of EA has some good games and you don't have a choice if you want them.
Gryphyn3 May 4, 2021 @ 2:23am 
Originally posted by AlexTECPlayz:
No one knows anything, and i don't see the point of it happening.

Well I can see one point. Making use of the newer technology out there and reducing processor hogging. Improving on performance etc.
Gryphyn3 May 4, 2021 @ 2:35am 
Originally posted by LeonardMT:
Originally posted by Hauptmann:

Oh wow. Definitely not giving another cent to this woke publisher. This is what happens when game developers start going woke and hiring developers who care more about their own social agendas than by producing a product in which the consumer wants.

Had i read this article over the weekend i would have not purchased CS.

What an entitled publisher... smh
Kind of EA has some good games and you don't have a choice if you want them.

EA's own CEO has said in the past that all pc users are stealing money from them, because he believes all pc users are getting pirated games.

Most of these game developers tend to be extremely, let's say, protective, of their software, and get offended by critical feedback, as they see their work in the same vein as artwork. And criticize the art and the artist gets offended.

It's part of the reason why they are putting selling everything online now. And why they hate places like gamestop/ebgames. They don't like the idea of them not getting a cut of the re-sale of hardcopy games.

The developers are and can be toxic to their own player base.. However, to be fair they, actually do listen to their player base SOMETIMES, just doesn't seem like it when they get a large amount of complaints from players about something. Because their responses get lost in the noise.

KG79 May 4, 2021 @ 4:30pm 
Instead of creating a new game or a sequel to CS they focused on DLCs from day 1. Now it has been years and even the DLCs got pointless and their frequency got less and less. But they keep on spaming here and on other channels those senseless interviews and documentaries about "real city planers". They completely have forgotten what they are, not to speak of where they came from. Maybe they think they are some kind of Discovery Channel now and that CS is that good that it will stay alive forever. It will not. They should focus again on what really matters, but unfortunetly I think CS will end the same like CiM2 ended, but at another scale. Sad.
LeonardMT May 5, 2021 @ 10:42am 
Originally posted by KG79:
But they keep on spamming here and on other channels those senseless interviews and documentaries about "real city planers". They completely have forgotten what they are; should focus again on what really matters
I fully agree.
Originally posted by KG79:
Maybe they think that CS is that good that it will stay alive forever. It will not.
I agree with this too but some will point out SimCity 4 and I think thats because some its game-play can't be seen anywhere else on such a scale like the region play and almost anyone can play it without crashing.
~\\Savarast//~ May 5, 2021 @ 2:27pm 
Originally posted by Cahos Rahne Veloza:
One thing is for certain though.

Because of player toxicity on mostly every forum Paradox Interactive is involved in, Steam as well as their own Paradox Plaza forums, they've seem to have halted development of their products...

https://www.pcgamer.com/paradox-interactive-says-player-toxicity-is-driving-developers-away-from-its-forums/

... instead of blaming their customers who are angry with their business practices, yeah I'm looking at you Paradox Launcher!, they should just give what their fanbase wants and stop making pigheaded decisions. They're not 2K Games, nor are they EA Games, so why not be the good guy instead :P
So I read the article and I'm not convinced they are necessarily in the wrong, nor did I find anything about them halting production of their games. People on the internet are notoriously "toxic" which I can fully understand being draining on their team, however this is just "normal" on the net for the longest time; ultimately just reinforcing the G.I.F.T theory.

As for them"wasting" time /resources doing their mini-doc, I never interpreted it as a waste of effort. On the contrary, I like to think this is evidence they are thinking seriously about the next stage for the game/series, potentially having used their time with the expert to hammer down new elements they may be considering.

As for them focusing on dlcs rather than a sequel... I don't really see the issue. The core of the game is/was pretty solid, and dlc "culture" was already very cemented in game development and paradox is a notorious company for them. Understand that I come from a time before dlc being a real thing, and I'm not a fan of how games are cut up to enable more dlcs. That said, it's pretty much unavoidable these days (indie games behind the exception usually), and there are much worse abusers of alternate monetization schemes so I just consider it the lesser of two evils.

Just my two cents
KG79 May 5, 2021 @ 2:50pm 
There is nothing bad about DLCs, but there comes a point where they become meaningless. The first one were great and added a lot value to the game. With time it got more and more pointless while still there would be great opportunities for great DLCs which never had been made. In the early days of CS I was sure there would be at some point a great public transportation DLC and things like that. It did not come. The only things that came were some kind of hard coded mods to the base game but nothing really great. They all were just visual mods, and that's why still things are like they are: a tram is just an other kind of a car and tram tracks are a type of o road. Well, it works, but only because of that. The last big things were the core game code was touched besides of some bug fixes was maybe the day and night cycle. Modders have done great work, but look at the limits of the game. They are untouched. Create a beautiful city with above 200K population with mods and you will experience a lot of limits. Nothing changed since the early days when it comes to the core things. Yes, maybe they thought in those days the game will last for 2-3 years and then a CS2 comes or CIM3 and were surprised by the huge success. Remember Bill Gates saying 640K will be enough, it's similar. We are here now with 8 and more core CPUs and GPUs with much more power than in 2013 and we see how our computers struggle boredom while the game engine it at its limits like an old single core game. All those agents could benifit from nowadays CPUs and allow superb possibilities when it comes to simulating the citizens and their path finding. It's more than the visual things, and thats the reason why CS is now an old and outdated game, and with every day where this old game is not put in a new major update of the core things, it will become hard to jkeep it running good on new OS and direct X versions. It's time to move forward and get rid of old limitations.
CO_Avanya May 6, 2021 @ 12:10am 
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Originally posted by Cahos Rahne Veloza:
One thing is for certain though.

Because of player toxicity on mostly every forum Paradox Interactive is involved in, Steam as well as their own Paradox Plaza forums, they've seem to have halted development of their products...

https://www.pcgamer.com/paradox-interactive-says-player-toxicity-is-driving-developers-away-from-its-forums/

... instead of blaming their customers who are angry with their business practices, yeah I'm looking at you Paradox Launcher!, they should just give what their fanbase wants and stop making pigheaded decisions. They're not 2K Games, nor are they EA Games, so why not be the good guy instead :P

I just want to comment on this and clear up some confusion I see around how Cities: Skylines is a little different from some of the other Paradox games.

Firstly, it's important to keep in mind that Cities: Skylines is developed by us, Colossal Order, and that's we're a separate company from Paradox. So whenever you see news about changes at Paradox Development Studios those don't affect us. They affect the games developed by Paradox themselves.

Paradox is our publisher, which means they handle a lot of practical stuff for us, so we can focus on game development. All those cool videos on the official Cities: Skylines YouTube channel for example are not something we work on - Paradox handles the production of those.

Now, we've been fairly absent from the forums for a while. I just want to clear up as to why that has been the case, because it has nothing to do with the discussion of toxicity that's happening right now. It's purely been a question of time. Mariina and Emmi, who used to post frequently on the forum, simply have not had the time they once had.

That's where I come in! My job is pretty much to make sure we don't miss any feedback or bug reports from you all. And part of that is reading the Paradox forums every day. I stick to the Cities: Skylines part of the forum, and while we don't have a ton of activity there, it's generally full of great feedback and helpful players. I can't comment on the toxicity of other parts of the forum, since I just don't visit them, but our little corner is quite nice. :)
Kuteki May 7, 2021 @ 5:46am 
Lack of competition from that
Ventress May 8, 2021 @ 2:58am 
Originally posted by CO_Avanya:
Originally posted by Cahos Rahne Veloza:
One thing is for certain though.

Because of player toxicity on mostly every forum Paradox Interactive is involved in, Steam as well as their own Paradox Plaza forums, they've seem to have halted development of their products...

https://www.pcgamer.com/paradox-interactive-says-player-toxicity-is-driving-developers-away-from-its-forums/

... instead of blaming their customers who are angry with their business practices, yeah I'm looking at you Paradox Launcher!, they should just give what their fanbase wants and stop making pigheaded decisions. They're not 2K Games, nor are they EA Games, so why not be the good guy instead :P

I just want to comment on this and clear up some confusion I see around how Cities: Skylines is a little different from some of the other Paradox games.

Firstly, it's important to keep in mind that Cities: Skylines is developed by us, Colossal Order, and that's we're a separate company from Paradox. So whenever you see news about changes at Paradox Development Studios those don't affect us. They affect the games developed by Paradox themselves.

Paradox is our publisher, which means they handle a lot of practical stuff for us, so we can focus on game development. All those cool videos on the official Cities: Skylines YouTube channel for example are not something we work on - Paradox handles the production of those.

Now, we've been fairly absent from the forums for a while. I just want to clear up as to why that has been the case, because it has nothing to do with the discussion of toxicity that's happening right now. It's purely been a question of time. Mariina and Emmi, who used to post frequently on the forum, simply have not had the time they once had.

That's where I come in! My job is pretty much to make sure we don't miss any feedback or bug reports from you all. And part of that is reading the Paradox forums every day. I stick to the Cities: Skylines part of the forum, and while we don't have a ton of activity there, it's generally full of great feedback and helpful players. I can't comment on the toxicity of other parts of the forum, since I just don't visit them, but our little corner is quite nice. :)


Hi CO_Avanya! Is there anything you can tell what colossal order is working on? New dlc/ whole new project? I understand that if there isn't even outlines for the new project, there isn't much to talk about, but any kind of info would be appreciated.
@Ventress:

About two months ago a rumor was going around that there might be two new DLCs coming after somebody noticed two new additions to the game's Steam Database page. You can do a forum search on it using "new DLC" as your search keywords. But everything's been quiet as of late though, so rumors might just stay as rumors at the very least.
LeonardMT May 8, 2021 @ 2:26pm 
Originally posted by Cahos Rahne Veloza:
@Ventress:

About two months ago a rumor was going around that there might be two new DLCs coming after somebody noticed two new additions to the game's Steam Database page. You can do a forum search on it using "new DLC" as your search keywords. But everything's been quiet as of late though, so rumors might just stay as rumors at the very least.
If there will be new DLC it would have to be REALLY FING GOOD for me to get it
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