No industrial traffic at all, completely disappeared. (no trucks, freight trains or ships.)

[burtos77]

I started the game with having the usual amount of industrial traffic (trucks, ships and trains) after a good few hours play, there are none of these anymore in the game. Completely all gone.
I have got the usual Not enough buyers for products message on quite a few industrial buildings the the corresponding message on the commercial buildings of Not enough goods to sell. But the road connections are good and not too far to travel.

Can anyone point me in the direction with a few ideas on how to get the industrial traffic back.

Thanks

[OneJasonBradly]

If you have "81 Tile" mod turn it off and test. I have seen this mod mess with industrial traffic in this way before. or I think it was this mod to cause it.

[WBKotter]

OJB is' right! the first thing to do is turn "81 Tile" off. the second thing to do is Unsubscribe from "81 Tile" the third thing to do is NEVER try to play an "81 tile" game or map again.

After getting that off my chest i just want to congratulate you for the way you seem to take the "Not enough Buyers" & "Not enough Goods" indicators in stride. About time people started to realize that it's not really all that big a deal.

As for your traffic situation.... Things don't usually just break for no reason. It may be that your supply chain has simply balanced out. Easy enough to check by just adding a couple of warehouses close to terminal nearest exit. Remember how it all works. Goods aren't pulled in to destination, they are pushed out.

[WhiteKnight77]

When you click on a storage system such as a silo in the farming area, is the silo full with all the trucks out? If so, you do not have enough storage. If you have no vehicles, you have other problems.

[WBKotter]

Originally posted by WhiteKnight77:

When you click on a storage system such as a silo in the farming area, is the silo full with all the trucks out? If so, you do not have enough storage. If you have no vehicles, you have other problems.

OP stated NO Transport of any kind All Gone. :) So, ?

[WhiteKnight77]

Originally posted by Zion wb Kotter:

Originally posted by WhiteKnight77:

When you click on a storage system such as a silo in the farming area, is the silo full with all the trucks out? If so, you do not have enough storage. If you have no vehicles, you have other problems.

OP stated NO Transport of any kind All Gone. :) So, ?

Other problems.

[MarkJohnson]

Originally posted by burtos77:

I started the game with having the usual amount of industrial traffic (trucks, ships and trains) after a good few hours play, there are none of these anymore in the game. Completely all gone.
I have got the usual Not enough buyers for products message on quite a few industrial buildings the the corresponding message on the commercial buildings of Not enough goods to sell. But the road connections are good and not too far to travel.

It's hard to tell without seeing your city in motion. Right now we can only guess.

Maybe, post your saved game here and we can see firsthand what is going on in your city?

from the game's main menu, go to savegames, find city, share, make public, copy & paste here.

Sharing a saved game is safe. no one can alter your saved game. It is its own save game.

[burtos77]

I tried all the 81 tiles stuff but no luck , there was still no industrial traffic.
So trashed the game and started again, just with the basic 25 tiles.

Industrial traffic is now back to its full glory.

I do like playing with the 81 tiles as it gives me much more scope to use the map I'm on (sydney at present, so I can do alot on both sides of the Sydney harbour bridge)

[WBKotter]

Well there you have it. Case in point.
You've answered your own question. Final solution or lack thereof is up to you which is as it should be. No real right or wrong answer. Simply a matter of personal choice.
Congratulations! You have arrived at a level of enlightenment that many never acquire.
YOU ARE A WINNER ! ! ! 🖖 LL&P

[MarkJohnson]

Originally posted by burtos77:

I tried all the 81 tiles stuff but no luck , there was still no industrial traffic.
So trashed the game and started again, just with the basic 25 tiles.

Industrial traffic is now back to its full glory.

I do like playing with the 81 tiles as it gives me much more scope to use the map I'm on (sydney at present, so I can do alot on both sides of the Sydney harbour bridge)

Trashed? Don't you think you'll just run into the same problem?

Those who fail to learn from history are condemned to repeat it.
-Churchill

[WBKotter]

Originally posted by MarkJohnson:

Originally posted by burtos77:

I tried all the 81 tiles stuff but no luck , there was still no industrial traffic.
So trashed the game and started again, just with the basic 25 tiles.

Industrial traffic is now back to its full glory.

I do like playing with the 81 tiles as it gives me much more scope to use the map I'm on (sydney at present, so I can do alot on both sides of the Sydney harbour bridge)

Trashed? Don't you think you'll just run into the same problem?

Those who fail to learn from history are condemned to repeat it.
-Churchill

Is it even possible to remove or disable 81 tiles from a map once enabled?

I respectfully submit that in facing the very real possibility that playing 81 tiles was indeed the source of stated issues OP in fact has learned from history. Additionally, i submit that the damage caused by subjecting a map to the 81 tile mod is, for all purposes, irreversible.

I understand your point of encouraging players to repair rather than replace but in this instance I am not convinced that simply disabling 81 tiles would clear effects from existing map. I know I've never had any success at trying to do so. Maybe You Have ?

AS always I defer to your wisdom regarding the removal of the 81 tile mod.

[MarkJohnson]

Originally posted by Zion wb Kotter:

Is it even possible to remove or disable 81 tiles from a map once enabled?

Of course. You may need to remove ploppables first.

I respectfully submit that in facing the very real possibility that playing 81 tiles was indeed the source of stated issues OP in fact has learned from history.

No offense, but you have no idea for sure what the issue is until you fully diagnose the problem. We need the saved game for this, especially with Harmony issues. Guessing isn't a good diagnosing tool.

I understand your point of encouraging players to repair rather than replace but in this instance I am not convinced that simply disabling 81 tiles would clear effects from existing map.

There is only one way to find out.

AS always I defer to your wisdom regarding the removal of the 81 tile mod.

I'm neither for or against it. I am always against any but info mods in this game. I see so many people with 300 plus hours in this game and can't make a 100k city, not to mention countless cities not at 20k, all because of using mods to fix problems in their city..

[OneJasonBradly]

Originally posted by Zion wb Kotter:

Is it even possible to remove or disable 81 tiles from a map once enabled?

Yes, I have that mod disabled at the moment and I use it to test issued cities. In my opinion the traffic should have started to return after the mod was removed or turned off. It may have been slow to return but none the less it has returned. The issue with turning it on of a city is anything outside the 25 limit will no longer be connected to the city or receive services like power. Or if they produce it won't reach the city no more. The point traffic did not return after the mod was gone is something to note and remember. In this case it may not be that mod at all.

[WBKotter]

Absent your ability to confirm the possibility of successfully defeating the ill effects of installing the mod I reaffirm my contention the rehabilitant the afore mentioned map was neither feasible or practical.

You are right as usual about needing a shared save for accurate diagnostics . But completely off base about my guessing. I offered no guesses at all. The comment you refer to was based on OP's comment (true or false, fact or fiction)

Finally I wasn't asking if you liked or approved of the use of mods or not. What other people do in their cities are their business as I see it. Makes no difference to me if they have 300 hours or 3,000. Their game Their choice. Don't see much to be gained by adding up populations either. As we both know it (the game) stalls out at around 1.04 so what's the point? I mean if the best you can reliably do is a few K over 1.04 then that's the best you can do. Where's the adventure in going back to where you've already been?

Which brings it all down to the "There is only one way to find out." remark,

What's up with that ?

I hate it if you're having a bad day.... just forget I asked? Doesn't matter all that much to me and apparently not at all to OP. :)

[WBKotter]

Originally posted by OneJasonBradly:

Originally posted by Zion wb Kotter:

Is it even possible to remove or disable 81 tiles from a map once enabled?

Yes, I have that mod disabled at the moment and I use it to test issued cities. In my opinion the traffic should have started to return after the mod was removed or turned off. It may have been slow to return but none the less it has returned. The issue with turning it on of a city is anything outside the 25 limit will no longer be connected to the city or receive services like power. Or if they produce it won't reach the city no more. The point traffic did not return after the mod was gone is something to note and remember. In this case it may not be that mod at all.

THANK YOU ! ! !

So, repair should be possible then. Hopefully OP will read this and find out it isn't necessary to start all over again. Didn't sound like he was ready to completely give up on 81 tile gaming just yet.

btw. I'm not at all sure from my reading of OP's comments that the mod was removed or disabled before the game was trashed or after. May have trashed the game before disabling mod but doesn't really sound like it.

Any way Thanks again for the info and I'm going back to SBLV or COVID BOWL if you prefer. Starting to look like Brady Bowl :) I forgot ... NO BLADES ... You may not care :)

[WBKotter]

Well That was disappointing......