Mouse lagging SUPER bad, total newb, please help

[Naotic]

Hey all, hope someone can help me out. Ive been playing SimCity for about 5000 years and finally decided to try this game seeing it has such great reviews and the AI isnt supposed to be quite as frustrating as SimCity (i.e. commuting, jobs, etc...) anyway, I just downloaded the game with 1 DLC (transportation) and NO mods. Im brand new! I find that at the very beginning, as soon as I try to lay roads or any ploppables or zoning, that the mouse lags like a 1/3 second behind which is enraging when trying to plop stuff or lay a road. Its almost unplayable. Even if I try to scroll at the edges of the screen to move up down or sideways, its totally delayed and wont even do a bump, (like to move the screen just a wee bit over)

The mouse is fine for everything else on my computer including games (like simcity its totally fine) Even here, Skylines, the mouse is fluid and wonderful when Im on the MENUS, just not when I get to actually placing stuff on the map, so I know its not my mouse. Mouse works fine. Im wondering if its my computer??? Like does this game take up an obscene amount of memory? or something techy that I probably dont get? Im gonna place down my computer specs and maybe someone who knows that kind of thing can at least let me know if its my computer or not. This is a new laptop from I believe 2017. Any help would be much appreciated as I feel like I just chucked $45.00 down a hole

system specs
Processor Intel core (TM) i5-7200u CPU @2.5 GHz 2.71 GHz
RAM 8.00
64 bit x 64 based processor

storage:
931 GB total
182 GB used
749 GB free

thanks!
xx

[Kubunio]

It's propably because of to weak hardware

[Naotic]

so can you define what you mean by that? whats "weak"? How do I fix it? can I fix it? what sort of hardware would I need to play the game properly?

[MarkJohnson]

Reboot your PC and try again.

[Naotic]

sadly I did. I was playing it last night, then gave up when the delay became insane and shut down the PC proper. Then this afternoon I turned it on and opened the game up with nothing on like, Google or Outlook and stuff, in the background. Problem is the same today as well even after a proper shut-down. I take it thats what you meant by reboot? like a full shut down, not sleep mode?

[Belo]

well you are using laptop. Do you have at least dedicated GPU or just the integrated one? If yes, then it is under minimum requirement.

try to put everything on minimum and check mods for better performance.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=465790009

[MarkJohnson]

Originally posted by Naotic:

sadly I did. I was playing it last night, then gave up when the delay became insane and shut down the PC proper. Then this afternoon I turned it on and opened the game up with nothing on like, Google or Outlook and stuff, in the background. Problem is the same today as well even after a proper shut-down. I take it thats what you meant by reboot? like a full shut down, not sleep mode?

Yes, that is what I meant. Power off (not sleep). Laptop users tend to just put it to sleep by closing the lid only.

Try what Belo posted above and see if that helps. But your system has integrated Intel graphics, so your performance will be bad. It shouldn't crash without workshop. although it might be turning off from overheating. Does it feel very warm?

Contrary to what their name implies, laptops aren't going to do well on your lap. It will block cooling and cause overheating. Plus block up the ports with debris when it's not on you lap.

Maybe blow out the cooling system with canned air from the intake port and try to blow it back out through the exhaust port. Try to put a pin in the fan if possible to keep the canned air from over spinning the fan and wear it out.

[Naotic]

Originally posted by Belo:

well you are using laptop. Do you have at least dedicated GPU or just the integrated one? If yes, then it is under minimum requirement.

try to put everything on minimum and check mods for better performance.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=465790009

Hi Belo, Im assuming it has just the integrated one because I didnt do anything to the laptop (like add on any hardware or software) when I got it. Its out of the box type thing. So whatever it came with is what I got. I will check that guide out deffo

@MarkJohnson, thanks for the reply. My laptop is actually not shutting down on its own or anything like that. Sorry about the confusion there. I meant I shut it down manually last night. It DOES get hot though. I keep it on a table when downstairs and when upstairs I actually have it on a small box so it overhangs off the edges so it doesnt overheat. So far, Ive not had any issues with it shutting itself off. I did reboot as well last night (and yes Im one of those people who usually just shut the lid and let it sleep lol) But last night I shut her down overnight to see if it worked today. Laptop was nice and cool when I tried out the game 1st thing when I turned it on.

Im going to see if its my system thats not up to spec then with that guide. Only thing is, I dont know crap about computer tech, the only thing I know about my laptop is thats its HP Pavillion with a core i5, 7th generation, and the other specs I put up in original post.

I find it hard to think that all the SimCity games played fine on my lap top with no lag or funny issues. Everything was streamless and I even used TONNES of mods on Sim 4, and yet Cities Skylines might be too much for it to handle? Is Skylines waaaaayyyy more memory? Remember Im not using any mods and only 1 DLC

I'll post back on the Performance Guide in a bit

thanks all so far for the answers

[MarkJohnson]

If you're using a mouse, maybe you need to install mouse drivers from the manufacturer?

But, this game is a resource hog. It isn't your normal city builder and it can use up to a 4-core/8-thread CPU with ease on larger cities.

You only have a dual core with 4-threads. plus it's a laptop, so lag is inevitable, but even high end rigs will never sustain over 30 fps zoomed in, but you shouldn't be having stutter. Although, your integrated Intel graphics can use up to 2 GB of RAM, so it will take away from the rest of your system.

Make sure you have no other apps open and running in the background. Any HP apps that came with the system can be sucking away resources.

Being you have a business laptop, it could be it is in some kind of power saving mode, so setting it to gaming/high performance mode may help. Windows has a setting under System/power & Sleep. HP likely has one somewhere as well. try Google for your specific laptop model, if you can't find it.

[Naotic]

Originally posted by MarkJohnson:

If you're using a mouse, maybe you need to install mouse drivers from the manufacturer?

But, this game is a resource hog. It isn't your normal city builder and it can use up to a 4-core/8-thread CPU with ease on larger cities.

You only have a dual core with 4-threads. plus it's a laptop, so lag is inevitable, but even high end rigs will never sustain over 30 fps zoomed in, but you shouldn't be having stutter. Although, your integrated Intel graphics can use up to 2 GB of RAM, so it will take away from the rest of your system.

Make sure you have no other apps open and running in the background. Any HP apps that came with the system can be sucking away resources.

Being you have a business laptop, it could be it is in some kind of power saving mode, so setting it to gaming/high performance mode may help. Windows has a setting under System/power & Sleep. HP likely has one somewhere as well. try Google for your specific laptop model, if you can't find it.

Mouse is deffo ok, I know its not the mouse. I actually do shut all apps down when playing as well, cuz I thought that might slow it up. I will absolutely try your idea on setting the system to gaming/hi performance mode. That hopefully will help!

Doing TONNES more research it just looks like Im screwed with having an integrated GPU and not a proper separate GPU for gaming. Its like having no GPU really.... also I only have 2.5GHz (whatever that means) and having 8GB Ram is like minimum requirement, so as you mentioned and others mentioned, once my city grows, it will slow even more :(

thanks for your advice! Im gonna try that and see about adding mods to help. If they dont work, its back to Sim City for me haha. I'll have to wait for Cities, until I get a better system. Shame cuz I just bought this computer 2 year ago!