Underground metro tracks

[tomene11]

This is probably a very dumb question, but I've just recently started playing and I've encountered an issue, that I can't seem to find a solution for: I've been trying to build underground metro tracks, but whenever I place them, they're overground, and interfere with roads and buildings. The game tells me in the description of the tracks that I can change the elevation of the tracks, but I can't seem to find where that is and whenever I google it, all the tutorials regarding metro tracks show metro tunnels, which aren't an option for me and don't show up at all, all I have is the metro tracks.

Sorry for the stupid question.

[livingdeadguy]

Originally posted by Illinger:

Bump. @tomene11 or @livingdeadguy, either of you guys find a solution?

I just jumped into the game after a few days of not playing and the metro line seems to be working. Last time I had deleted a small station and the tunnel wouldn't stay underground. I come back in and it's fine.

My problem now is getting the TM:PE menu to pop up. I can't figure out how to restrict lanes any more.

[[TB] Karl]

There is a new TE:PE v11 Stable, i would uninstall any TE:PE MODS and reinstall TE:PE v11 Stable make sure to turn it on in content manager... not sure what the HOTKEY is if there is one, but It's working Fine for me and many others so.
Metro stations seem to be of a slightly larger size than before... that being said tunnel issue does seem to only happen when ever a metro station has been place with the Fine Road Anarchy ON.. so if you turn OFF Anarchy when placing stations it seems to be fine,,. that being said i haven't tried it for a couple of days and it could well have been Fixed.. :-)

[livingdeadguy]

Originally posted by TB Karl:

There is a new TE:PE v11 Stable, i would uninstall any TE:PE MODS and reinstall TE:PE v11 Stable make sure to turn it on in content manager... not sure what the HOTKEY is if there is one, but It's working Fine for me and many others so.
Metro stations seem to be of a slightly larger size than before... that being said tunnel issue does seem to only happen when ever a metro station has been place with the Fine Road Anarchy ON.. so if you turn OFF Anarchy when placing stations it seems to be fine,,. that being said i haven't tried it for a couple of days and it could well have been Fixed.. :-)

I found it. I don't know why it's hiding where it is or why I had to reenable it, but...I found it and got it back. Thank you!

[browningchris]

Originally posted by mohalen:

I am having the issue that many of my metro lines or new stations I add, it says can't find path when I try to add it to an existing line. Is this operator error on my part or there is another issue?! Thanks

The angle at junctions has to be greater than 45 degrees. AKA the turns can't be too sharp.

[Jamiearabi]

Originally posted by Illinger:

Originally posted by Cahos Rahne Veloza:

The Revamped Metro system is quite inferior to what MOM (Metro Overhaul Mod) has to offer. Firstly, where are all the trains coming from? At least MOM gave us a Metro Depot where the Metro trains come and return to. Second, MOM tracks can be placed over roads whilst these revamped ones don't. So yeah, what's the point in having above ground elevated Metro when you can't place them in smart locations like above and parallel on roads. So yeah kinda half baked. Plus several folks are actually requesting, nay begging to get the old Metro system back and I can't blame them.

A little off topic, considering we're asking about underground. But, interesting...
So, the answer is they made changes to the core game a while back, and broke the Metro in the process? (i.e. I'm seeing what I'm supposed to be seeing, despite it being garbage?) That's a little hard to believe, considering the underground station is still available, just not the tunnels to connect them.

Having read up on the bugs currently affecting mods (pretty sure MOM was on this list I saw this morning), maybe I'll give it a shot after they clean up the mess.

Having the exact same issue as you. I have had the game for about 2 years and have always used about 15 mods. The problem occurred after the developer updated the game in the last couple of weeks. I don't believe this to be a mod issue, but a base game issue. Would love to hear from you or anyone else as to whether this is something that will be reversed, as the old metro tools were far superior.

[MunsonBurns]

Ok, so I was trying to build metro tunnels for the first time and I couldn’t figure it out. I was digging a tunnel into the ground from the station and I knew that wasn’t right but couldn’t see any other way to do it.

Watching some YouTube videos tonight, I realized everyone else has a asset specifically for metro tunnels, I was laying track.

I’m guessing related to one of my mods, based on earlier comments. I will have to do some trial and error to see if I can fix it and report back.

[Illinger]

Originally posted by MunsonBurns:

Ok, so I was trying to build metro tunnels for the first time and I couldn’t figure it out. I was digging a tunnel into the ground from the station and I knew that wasn’t right but couldn’t see any other way to do it.

Watching some YouTube videos tonight, I realized everyone else has a asset specifically for metro tunnels, I was laying track.

I’m guessing related to one of my mods, based on earlier comments. I will have to do some trial and error to see if I can fix it and report back.

Still have not gotten this to work, myself. However, what people seem to be saying about this is that asset went away with a recent patch. Supposedly, we're expected to use Page Down on the track asset to create tunnels, now. That would be great, if it would let me do that. However, I can confirm it is a problem in the core game, as I'm not running any mods.

[MunsonBurns]

Disabled all of my mods and still no subway tunnel. I can page down & put tracks in the ground but it won't let me add stops to create a line.

I'm lost. I can't imagine they just did away with the subway tunnels all together. Yes, I can page down on the tracks and lead a tunnel into the ground but that can't be the only option.

[Illinger]

Originally posted by MunsonBurns:

Disabled all of my mods and still no subway tunnel. I can page down & put tracks in the ground but it won't let me add stops to create a line.

I'm lost. I can't imagine they just did away with the subway tunnels all together. Yes, I can page down on the tracks and lead a tunnel into the ground but that can't be the only option.

Correct. It's the tunnel asset that has gone away. You've still had better luck than I've had (can't get Page Down to work on the tracks), but have you tried first placing the underground station then running track to it? (Note: the station itself sits above ground, the tunnel section that it comes with is the below ground part.)

[MunsonBurns]

Originally posted by Illinger:

Originally posted by MunsonBurns:

Disabled all of my mods and still no subway tunnel. I can page down & put tracks in the ground but it won't let me add stops to create a line.

I'm lost. I can't imagine they just did away with the subway tunnels all together. Yes, I can page down on the tracks and lead a tunnel into the ground but that can't be the only option.

Correct. It's the tunnel asset that has gone away. You've still had better luck than I've had (can't get Page Down to work on the tracks), but have you tried first placing the underground station then running track to it? (Note: the station itself sits above ground, the tunnel section that it comes with is the below ground part.)

Yeah, I did place the underground station and that allowed me to connect directly to it (without the page down) but for the larger stations, that means that now, no matter what you need to run a section of track down a tunnel so that's 12u extra that you have to take up on both sides of the station. Given that this isn't how subway stations are in real life, it's pretty annoying. Especially considering it was an asset before and they removed it.

I emailed paradox just to see what they say but it seems like this is just how it is now. Lame.

[bri]

Except that it isn't "how it is", there's something wrong on your end if you can't lay subway tracks underground using the pgdn key.

[[TB] Karl]

Originally posted by CoolantCorrie:

Originally posted by kristofburger:

Our modder friend Quboid has confirmed that a road anarchy mod is causing this, most likely Fine Road Anarchy 2. It occurs when you build an underground station (or a hub containing an underground station) with anarchy on.

I have Fine Road Anarchy 2 and I'm not getting these or any problems with tunnels or metro stations. I have all the DLCs except Nat.Disasters.

yer i have stopped using Fine Road Anarchy when placing stations haven't had a problem since,, one thing still thou is i cannot see the colored line routes under ground for metro,, making new lines quite tricky not being able to see the route lines

[Birdsbread]

Originally posted by Audacious_vile:

Use Pg Up, Pg Dn to change elevation.

when i do the rails dont place

[CosmicFurFace]

Thanks to @kristofberger's post from 2 years ago, for helping fix this issue. I had a Bus/Metro asset placed, and didn't immediately notice the "tunnel" under the adjoining raised highway, created when I placed the track. At some point, I saw the "blue view into the void" and tried correcting the track. Changing the elevation of the adjoining land, removing the highway, using MoveIt to move the station -- nothing fixed the problem. Track I laid underground worked, until the piece connected to the station, and that piece had a tunnel entrance, in this case placed about 20m below the ground's surface (yes, a tunnel in a pit). Trials with the same asset didn't have this problem, when used in other locations. Spent quite some time trying to figure why.

I almost certainly had road anarchy turned on when I placed the station: It's on a slope, and I seem to recall having trouble placing it on a curved roadway, so turned on anarchy to place it. I can't confirm this was the cause of the bug, but based on the earlier post, I deleted the station and replaced it (using anarchy, roads & stuff still close), and the problem is resolved. I cannot recreate the issue.

While I can't confirm road anarchy caused the problem, it surely did not recur when replacing with road anarchy turned on. So no clue what to blame.

My only concrete observation is that my problem of a tunnel entrance being placed next to the station, was resolved by deleting and replacing the station (even with road anarchy turned on). The tracks connect cleanly now, and I'm moving on.

Thanks to all who posted here for helping me fix this. I had truly run out of ideas.

[Muffin]

Hey, I think i solved this.
While you have the train tracks selected, look to the bottom left where you change road tools, and make sure the Blue exclamation mark "Upgrade Track" is not currently selected.

I saw a common trend amongst people who are either just starting or returning to the game after a long time. I hope this helps one of you or someone else in the future