how do i Increase pagefile

[THE QUEEN BEE]

or is there a mod that cand be with a other mod

[Metacritical]

google it

[MarkJohnson]

Very carefully.

type in Advanced System Settings in the start menu search bar.

Go to the Performance tab.

Then to Advanced tab

then click the Change button

It should have the Virtual Memory pop-up windows

Uncheck, "Automatically manage paging file size for all drives"

Check the "Custom size" option

Set "Initial size (MB):" to triple your system RAM.

Set "Maximum size (MB):" to triple your system RAM.

So, if you have 8GB system RAM, then page file sizes should both be 24GB (24000MB)

Then click apply and you'll need to reboot you PC and now your system has access to 32GB of memory.

[nS|Merodi]

or how about don't touch and it let windows do its thing.

If you are having paging problems, you need more ram.

(coming from someone who fixes computers for a living and deals with people that touch stuff that they shouldn't)

[MarkJohnson]

Originally posted by nS|Merodi:

or how about don't touch and it let windows do its thing.

If you are having paging problems, you need more ram.

(coming from someone who fixes computers for a living and deals with people that touch stuff that they shouldn't)

Because windows sux at doing it. It is designed for large file manipulation, not thousands of tiny ones. It chokes on this game hard, that's why it takes some people over an hour to load their saved games. Windows adjusts pagefile constantly and eventually times out from waiting to load all of the workshop.

It's simple and harmless to do. But then you should already know that with all of your experience.

[MonkehMaster]

never ever increase your paging file, there is no reason for you to be doing that, always allow windows to manage your paging file.

the only thing i can think of that your even asking about that in this forum is that your running out of ram playing this game, which if it is the case, i recommend you go buy/update more ram in your system.

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this is just an fyi for people who use ssd's

btw if your running a paging file on an ssd you will kill your ssd super fast, getting more ram is always a better option and reduces or stop the use of a paging file and drastically prolong your ssd's life from what it would have been if using a paging file.

[MonkehMaster]

Originally posted by -DI- rmjohnson144:

Originally posted by nS|Merodi:

or how about don't touch and it let windows do its thing.

If you are having paging problems, you need more ram.

(coming from someone who fixes computers for a living and deals with people that touch stuff that they shouldn't)

Because windows sux at doing it. It is designed for large file manipulation, not thousands of tiny ones. It chokes on this game hard, that's why it takes some people over an hour to load their saved games. Windows adjusts pagefile constantly and eventually times out from waiting to load all of the workshop.

It's simple and harmless to do. But then you should already know that with all of your experience.

false, paging files are only used when the system itself doesnt have enough ram for its task, buying more ram is infact the best answer.

also, windows uses its paging file just fine and a paging file should only be set to the same size as the amount of ram your system has.

sorry to say, but people like you need to do a bit more research before messing with this kind of stuff.

fyi, its not simple nor harmless to mess with the paging file....

[Metacritical]

Originally posted by MonkehMaster:

this is just an fyi for people who use ssd's

btw if your running a paging file on an ssd you will kill your ssd super fast, getting more ram is always a better option and reduces or stop the use of a paging file and drastically prolong your ssd's life from what it would have been if using a paging file.

please show some evidence of this.

[MonkehMaster]

Originally posted by Metacritical:

Originally posted by MonkehMaster:

this is just an fyi for people who use ssd's

btw if your running a paging file on an ssd you will kill your ssd super fast, getting more ram is always a better option and reduces or stop the use of a paging file and drastically prolong your ssd's life from what it would have been if using a paging file.

please show some evidence of this.

use google, its common knowledge...

[Metacritical]

Originally posted by MonkehMaster:

Originally posted by Metacritical:

please show some evidence of this.

use google, its common knowledge...

well not quite. it used to be mentioned on forums a lot when SSDs were first introduced, but there has never been actual evidence that this is the case. which is why i asked for evidence. i can quite easily google it and find some old posts on forums, but i've not seen any evidence that this is in anyway true. so again, show me some evidence.

[MonkehMaster]

Originally posted by Metacritical:

Originally posted by MonkehMaster:

use google, its common knowledge...

well not quite. it used to be mentioned on forums a lot when SSDs were first introduced, but there has never been actual evidence that this is the case. which is why i asked for evidence. i can quite easily google it and find some old posts on forums, but i've not seen any evidence that this is in anyway true. so again, show me some evidence.

wrinte to an ssd is bad for an ssd and reduces its life, paging files write constantly... hence reducing its life.

thats fact..

use google and do your own research, im not here to do stuff you can easily do on your own.

[scpool1986]

Originally posted by MonkehMaster:

Originally posted by -DI- rmjohnson144:

Because windows sux at doing it. It is designed for large file manipulation, not thousands of tiny ones. It chokes on this game hard, that's why it takes some people over an hour to load their saved games. Windows adjusts pagefile constantly and eventually times out from waiting to load all of the workshop.

It's simple and harmless to do. But then you should already know that with all of your experience.

false, paging files are only used when the system itself doesnt have enough ram for its task, buying more ram is infact the best answer.

also, windows uses its paging file just fine and a paging file should only be set to the same size as the amount of ram your system has.

sorry to say, but people like you need to do a bit more research before messing with this kind of stuff.

fyi, its not simple nor harmless to mess with the paging file....

I’m really sorry to have to do this publicly but seeing as your profile is set to private making it impossible for me to send this as a message to you but here it is. The pagefile on a Windows system goes up and down when it is set for Windows to manage it. This causes latency which slows both memory and hard drive, eventually leading to them having to be replaced sooner or more frequently. When Windows auto adjusts the pagefile it goes as high as is needed to meet the demand; thus making your claim of “a paging file should only be set to the same size as the amount of ram your system has” false. If that was the case a computer with 8GB of RAM would shut down once the pagefile hit 8GB because it would not have any available storage.

Paging files are also used for more than just when the system is out of memory. A properly balanced computer would run its printspooler through the pagefile instead of the physical memory because the printspooler has a higher latency threshold than some other system processes.

Now, pagefile size maximum. The 3x the system ram capacity is actually RECOMMENDED ON MICROSOFT’S website, please see screenshot below where it says Windows 10.
https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ar8wliG4u6V0irR3h8adC9rTwvpoqg

(https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2860880/how-to-determine-the-appropriate-page-file-size-for-64-bit-versions-of)

The ending statement, that’s real cute since you’ve been called out twice in one post where you tell someone else to do research before they say something. Now, the question comes; are you going to try and dispute without evidence against someone with an associate’s degree (2 years) in network management and in year 3 of a bachelor’s degree (4 years) in advanced communication technologies or are we going to agree that before casting stones we should actually look first. Like I said, I would have preferred to have done this by private message but kinda didn’t have the opportunity. I hope everyone has a good evening.

[MonkehMaster]

Originally posted by scpool1986:

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microsoft has been known to be wrong on tons of stuff, also i dont go by win 10 standards, win 10 is trash and runs horrible in my opinion, tons of bugs and issues, not including being a basic spyware OS and horrible design decisions.

and what i said is true, the paging file will have reduced use when the system has plenty of ram, no it wont shut down when the paging file is used up like you mentioned windows manages the size, that being said there is no reason for the paging file size to go past the size of the amount of ram your system has in it and if it does during playing a game for instance only shows poor optimization on the games side, meaning it either has memory leak or hasnt been fully optimized and/or releases ram properly.

cute... you can spout or brag of degrees (of which we dont know if your telling the truth) all you want and it still wont change facts, ive been building/repairing computers for almost 30yrs, while i havent gone to get degrees at a college to prove my knowledge, i still know what im talking about, you just added more in-depth info on some of a paging files workings, i simply stated the basics and what pertains to gaming in general and of which most of these people whouldnt know or care about.

if 3x the size paging file was recommended then why doesnt windows set that itself, why would microsoft have to recommend something instead of having the os set it properly?



because its not needed, people shouldnt be setting giant paging files on their pc's just to play a game that eats tons of ram, they simply should just buy/upgrade their ram.

also when a games uses paging file it drastically slows down the game creating lag and stuttering because the hdd/ssd is being used heavily (more noticeable on hdd's) and slows down the gpu because its being starved for the textures/graphics info it needs to render properly, thats why more ram is needed in instances of gaming, most games get by with 8-16GB, recently released/Early Access games on the other hand will require much more as they have optimization issues and memory leaks.

this doesnt include other factors in pc software like editing/cad/rendering movies/video/etc.. but thats a different story.

all that being said, i find it cute... you claim i was called out and you pull the same "steam/internet" statement kids have been doing for years.... "provide proof" but they literally come with none themselves (you provide some on an offtopic issue and a horrible source).

i do not cater to children or people for that matter on the internet, you/anyone want(s) proof of what i say or has been stated by anyone else, you go search it yourself, im here to play games and give some general help if i can, not to play cat and mouse and spam links and argue with randoms on the net.

have a nice night :)

[THE QUEEN BEE]

(D:) had no memory pagefile set its ben fixed

[MarkJohnson]

Originally posted by MonkehMaster:

never ever increase your paging file, there is no reason for you to be doing that, always allow windows to manage your paging file.

Like already posted above, Windows does a poor job of allocation the page file for this game because of all of the small files.

So there is indeed a good reason to increase the page file. Plus you don't have to buy memory, when you can use a page file.

the only thing i can think of that your even asking about that in this forum is that your running out of ram playing this game, which if it is the case, i recommend you go buy/update more ram in your system.

I hope your willing to pay for this upgrade. lol You act like memory is free or something.

this is just an fyi for people who use ssd's

btw if your running a paging file on an ssd you will kill your ssd super fast

This is complete non-sense. Our SSDs would be dead by now as much as Windows auto adjusts page files constantly and relentlessly.

Originally posted by MonkehMaster:

also, windows uses its paging file just fine and a paging file should only be set to the same size as the amount of ram your system has.

You are clueless. Microsoft themselves recommend a max of 3 times your ram, and I've seen 5x and more without issues.

Directly from Microsoft:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/15055/windows-7-optimize-windows-better-performance

sorry to say, but people like you need to do a bit more research before messing with this kind of stuff.

The irony. lol

fyi, it's not simple nor harmless to mess with the paging file....

A page file isn't even needed. It is completely optional. Check the page file settings to see for yourself. Windows always keeps its own version of a page file to keep itself from crashing.

But it's totally not required.

[Apples]

The thing with Cities Skylines is that the optimization isn't great, it will commit large amounts of ram to itself even though it will use maybe 3-5 gigs less than the amount committed. (Either that or it's as Johnson said above, a Windows a flaw.)

And despite it never using upto the comitted amount, each time you load a City without ever closing the game, it will continue to commit more RAM unto itself, until your system has no "free" RAM available and it crashes. (If your system doesn't crash first)


https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/952973332489564341/4682D80DE35AEAE519A31B010F44043BBA4B2B0A/



If it wasn't for this game i'd run without pagefile.


If you increase page file (i'd recommend upto 16GB pagefile and no higher in your case) look at what it "uses" and what it "commits", if you are "using" more than the actual RAM you have, upgrade if you can, otherwise you may have performance issues using pagefile.

If you are "using" less than 8GB you don't need to upgrade unless you plan on getting more assets.

Best bet for pagefile with less performance issues and longevity would be a seperate 7200RPM HDD drive, and have your pagefile on that, if you wanted a cheap cheap option.