Do you guys cheat?

[AshEmmes]

Silly question really. I recently reinstalled and wanted to get back into the game. One of the problems I tend to have is restarting due to not liking the map layout, or not liking the way my city is looking thus far.
I feel like this makes the early game work reaaaaaally tedious. So many limitations and reliance on moderation else you end up in the red, pre-planning things can actually hurt long term design, etc.

I guess I'm wondering if I should just infinite money or cheat extra cash or something. Do you guys do this?

[Tom Målbur]

No, I don't think many people cheat.
The early game is really the only time where you'll be short on money, mid to late game you'll be swimming in it and won't even pay attention to your cash.
Also, when I start new cities I start them with 'unlock all', which gives you enough money to get started anyway.

[MarkJohnson]

There is no such thing as cheating in a single player game. It's your game, play it the way you want.

Early on, what I do is pause the game setting up the layout then save 10-20k for things I may miss and then unpause. It will dip into the red for a little bit from all of the construction, just watch carefully to make sure nothing is wrong. Then pause if you see something wrong and fix it before you run out of money.

Then once you get into the green again, hit the x3 button to generate a lot of money quickly, plus it matures your city quickly as well.

I find the biggest issue of early game is you build faster than you can afford. With x3 speed, you make three times the money and you won't need any money.

Sometimes when I want bankroll, I'll go on a short break and let it run after I get all services in place and making a few grand a week. Then I'll be over a million in a few minutes break time.

But use all mods or workshop items you want. You're not cheating anybody, you're the only player.

[onezerorising]

Sure, I cheat all the time. I had some stupid factory complaining that it didn't have enough raw materials. The cheek! So I bulldozed it. Take that Cim-face!

Then I went and subscribed to bloodypenguin's excellent terraforming mod http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=502750307 and just put more resources into the area.

And THEN...then I went and enabled the 'infinite resources' thing in options.

Am I ashamed?

Hell no. It's MINE I tell you! ALL MINE!

I'm the Mayor, and unfortunately for my population, there aren't going to be elections anytime soon. Or at all.

Seriously, as the poster above says...it's a single player game. Cheating isn't actually a 'thing'.

[grapplehoeker]

Originally posted by AshEmmes:

I feel like this makes the early game work reaaaaaally tedious. So many limitations and reliance on moderation else you end up in the red, pre-planning things can actually hurt long term design, etc.

There is absolutely no need to rely on mods. The game is very forgiving. Making money is ridiculously easy, when you know how. When I play vanilla, I will always end up providing free public transport and still have millions that I can't spend fast enough.
Perhaps this will help you ;)
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=422074590

I guess I'm wondering if I should just infinite money or cheat extra cash or something. Do you guys do this?

You may use whatever you wish. It's your game to customise it however you want. However, before you do so, you should at least try to understand and master the game mechanic first. Then, you may use mods to compliment what you have learnt.
When I use Unlimited money, I do so, because I intend to lay down the foundations for my city from the start. This may involve major engineering works, that would cost millions,and needs to be in place before the city is populated. I know that once population has moved in and grown to around 50k-75k that the city will be earning enough income to have repaid the initial expenditure and at that point I can turn the unlimited money mod off.
I don't consider it cheating. It's more of a capital investment I fully intend my Cims to repay and repay they do. Besides it's not really a game for me, it's a means of artistic and engineering expression ;)
I could never have built this without unlimited money to start with...
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=689854334

[oldeguy]

I modify assets to pay me, give additional coverage and increase output. Make the game fun running little towns with a 599 MW Methane Powerplant

[Walker Evans]

My first time playing any game, i tend to cheat to a ridiculous amount, mostly to try and break the game to understand how the game works and figure out how i want to play. Then i start over and play. That said, i tend to not cheat money when i do play since i find it detracts too much, but then i like playing with certain restrictions (i actually liked having to take a loan and deciding which loan, what to do with it, and when to repay). Right now, think the only cheaty things i have are infinite resources and increased passenger capacity for public transport. Oh, and that mod that freezes the soil counter.

[Zhandroid]

Originally posted by grapplehoeker:

You may use whatever you wish. It's your game to customise it however you want. However, before you do so, you should at least try to understand and master the game mechanic first. Then, you may use mods to compliment what you have learnt.

This is exactly how I view. After I installed, I loaded the mods in. I quickly became overwhelmed with the amount of options and assets. I defaulted back to vanilla until I can master layout and traffic. Once I'm comfortable with mechanics, I'll add some mods back in!

[onezerorising]

Originally posted by grapplehoeker:

There is absolutely no need to rely on mods.....
You may use whatever you wish. It's your game to customise it however you want. However, before you do so, you should at least try to understand and master the game mechanic first. Then, you may use mods to compliment what you have learnt.

So very, very true.

One of the very best mods out there in my opinion is TMPE. Even if you have no particular aspirations in any particular direction, the added gameplay dimensions it adds could cover pages in an entire review of its' own. BUT! Sub to TMPE and you will suddenly think you have a traffic problem, even if you didn't previously because of the way it works.

Mind you, if your traffic is running well under TMPE, it is probably runnning fantastically when you turn it off.

On the other hand, if you're subbing TMPE to solve a traffic problem then the problem isn't traffic, but the way you laid out your city.

So yes, as the great man says, "before you do so, you should at least try to understand and master the game mechanic first."

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=583429740

[AshEmmes]

Originally posted by grapplehoeker:

Originally posted by AshEmmes:

I feel like this makes the early game work reaaaaaally tedious. So many limitations and reliance on moderation else you end up in the red, pre-planning things can actually hurt long term design, etc.

There is absolutely no need to rely on mods.

Oh no no, I mean moderation as in you have to moderate your building, if you go too crazy you dip into the red and it can be real hard to get out of. Happened to me once when I was preplanning and designing roads too much.
Not modifications. Definitely unecessary.

[SkiRich]

Starting a city with 70k, while possible is no where real, or practical. The 70k limit was created to make the game play longer, involved, and somewhat challenging.
Use starting money mod.
I always start with 7 Million. By the time I run through 7 Million, I am on the verge of making money.
To each his own.
I don't play for the challenge or achievements. I play to build and make money.

[Excedo]

I love playing Vanilla ;)

[SnugSnug]

There is a fine line between quality of life and cheating, things like 'Move it!' mod. Personally early game layout is just a stepping stone and is entirely open to complete overhaul once cashflow and milestones opens up a bit.

That said if one is going for a creative experience and just wants to 'make' a city then toggling unlocks, cash restrictions and terraforming options would definitely improve qaulity of life.

[MarkJohnson]

Originally posted by SkiRich:

Starting a city with 70k, while possible is no where real, or practical. The 70k limit was created to make the game play longer, involved, and somewhat challenging.
Use starting money mod.
I always start with 7 Million. By the time I run through 7 Million, I am on the verge of making money.
To each his own.
I don't play for the challenge or achievements. I play to build and make money.

Actually those numbers are already scaled in the game. As an example, out neighbor city here in Kalama, WA has just announced to upgrade the city's water pumping station at a cost of $2,300,000. In comparison, the game only charges $2,500. And that was for an upgrade, nit a brand new system.

Here in Longview, WA we shut down the old one and made a whole new water treatment plant at a cost of $33,000,000!

So we're taking over 10,000 times increase in costs. This would make out $70,000 starting money equivalent to around $700,000,000 or from $70k to $700m.

So it's not as low of money as you think. I prefer to play with the unlocks as well to get a jump start so I don't have small roads and have to wait for money to accumulate early game. I even play at x3 at all times and it can take a while to get a few million built up.

But 70k for this game is actually quite a lot of money, considering also you get 1 free 4 sq km of land to start with and that has to be worth a few million alone.

[JDumbz]

I basically cheat to build a city without restrictions or worry to get myself into debt. Although I still manage to make a profit somehow.

[dvdprz12]

i cheat