No delivery vehicule in my city.

[Chimbo]

Hi !

I have a problem with my "supply chain". Commercials building say they don't have enough to sell and Industrial building say they have no buyers for their products, wich makes no sense.

Most of my areas are mostly mixt (residential/commercial/industrial). Every commercial area has an industrial area nearby. All the industrial and commercial areas have connections with port, train station and highway and traffic has never been so fluid!

So I was looking for the delivery trucks and I couldn't find any in my city (that explain why traffic is fluid !). There are still the import/export vehicule but they aren't enough to satisfy the demand. import and export are both around 3000/4000 (My town: 150k).

I have a few mods and assets but nothing about vehicules exept one train.

I would be really thankful if someone could help. :)

[dadyrghluv69]

If you have a cargo hub it may help bring in imports at least until you find out what the issue is

[OneJasonBradly]

Do you have traffic jammed trains?

Though if you are noticing certain type of traffic disappearing and improving traffic flow then this sounds like a mod conflict. I say this because I tested a game where it had flow of 93% and your same issues. I did not sub to the mods that came with the shared game file and I experienced traffic jams from outside connection to outside connection and a flow of 30% and falling. You could test by turning one mod off at a time to find the issue. I thought it was RICO mod or something to do with services, but it’s just a guess.

[Chimbo]

Originally posted by OneJasonBradly:

Do you have traffic jammed trains?

Though if you are noticing certain type of traffic disappearing and improving traffic flow then this sounds like a mod conflict. I say this because I tested a game where it had flow of 93% and your same issues. I did not sub to the mods that came with the shared game file and I experienced traffic jams from outside connection to outside connection and a flow of 30% and falling. You could test by turning one mod off at a time to find the issue. I thought it was RICO mod or something to do with services, but it’s just a guess.

Nope, no jam nowhere (or maybe a bit the planes)

Yeah I think I will try. However, I'm really confident it's an issue with the goods delivery because the rest of industries (petrol, fields, etc) work and import/export. But with the generic, I have 0 import/export. Is it possible that I desactivated that somewhere ?

[MarkJohnson]

I'd say you hit the vehicle limit, but that's usually raw materials.

How far away are the commerce/industry?

Do you have any trains directly linked from generic to commerce only?

Is it city wide? or localized in an area or few?

Maybe post saved game for us to look at. Otherwise we can only guess.

[OneJasonBradly]

Just Generic Industry showing this issue? Perhaps check its rail line maybe you changed something by mistake that is stopping things. Scrutinize the generic area for flaws.

[Chimbo]

Originally posted by -DI- rmjohnson144:

I'd say you hit the vehicle limit, but that's usually raw materials.

How far away are the commerce/industry?

Do you have any trains directly linked from generic to commerce only?

Is it city wide? or localized in an area or few?

Maybe post saved game for us to look at. Otherwise we can only guess.

How can I share my city so you can see it ?

Some shopping areas touching industrial areas and there's no traffic jam so there's no way they can't deliver. Some others are a bit further but they have supply train station. But all the shops say they have nothing to sell, even if they touch a generic industry.

Marchandise train station are connected by the railroad that cross the map and connects with the outside. But there's no jam. Recently I saw really short train, I don't know if it's normal, usually they all have the same lenght.

I use the 25 squares mod with two cities (the main one and a small one) with a few villages around, but the main one is built on 6-8 squares (without the residential suburb). I reallly worked hard to have commerce areas close to industry areas and it seemed to work before.

As I can't see import/export of goods nor local delivery of goods, I guess there's a bug somewhere.

[OneJasonBradly]

In the main menu of the game you will see Content Manager tab. Click that then saved games. In there find the file (saved game file) you wish to share then chick the shared button on that file. This will not harm the file at all.

[Chimbo]

Originally posted by OneJasonBradly:

In the main menu of the game you will see Content Manager tab. Click that then saved games. In there find the file (saved game file) you wish to share then chick the shared button on that file. This will not harm the file at all.

Like this?
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1288405348

[MarkJohnson]

At first glance, it looks typical. Too large of lone R. C, and I areas with poor connection to the city. You have one cargo train to handle almost a full tile of Industry only. One train station can't handle that much freight.

RCI needs to be closer together. This is an agent simulator, so cims need to make deliveries on time. They just have too far to travel and time out and fail their missions.

Maybe try plopping down a cargo station in generic industry and another in middle of commerce and connect the two to each other only and they should supply each other at least a little bit.

Try mixing RCI in the same 1-tile so they can interact better. Then supplement with transportation options.

Try to keep industry and commerce right next to major highways so they can get freight on/off the road ASAP.

Overall, it looks nice, but imbalanced. It's going to take some major tweaking, but probably easier than starting over. Just try to keep things within half a tile of each other for best results.

[Chimbo]

Originally posted by -DI- rmjohnson144:

At first glance, it looks typical. Too large of lone R. C, and I areas with poor connection to the city. You have one cargo train to handle almost a full tile of Industry only. One train station can't handle that much freight.

RCI needs to be closer together. This is an agent simulator, so cims need to make deliveries on time. They just have too far to travel and time out and fail their missions.

Maybe try plopping down a cargo station in generic industry and another in middle of commerce and connect the two to each other only and they should supply each other at least a little bit.

Try mixing RCI in the same 1-tile so they can interact better. Then supplement with transportation options.

Try to keep industry and commerce right next to major highways so they can get freight on/off the road ASAP.

Overall, it looks nice, but imbalanced. It's going to take some major tweaking, but probably easier than starting over. Just try to keep things within half a tile of each other for best results.

Yeah maybe I don't have enough train station but it would explain why commercial areas far from industrial areas are don't work. But in some neighboorhood (like Gallagham (next to the canyon) and Windsor Cliff (on the sea side)) shops and industries are so close they could deliver on foot (50 meters and no traffic) ! And residentials area don't seem to care if they are far away from anything else. There is absolutely 0 delivery vehicule in the whole city (except for import/export). That's why I think it's a bug. Especially because I build very slowly and it worked really well until on day everything went wrong.
The other possibility would be if an update changed the rules for commercial-industrial local delivery. Like maybe if one level in industry can only deliver to the same level of commerce ?

But already thank you guys for helping me :D

[MarkJohnson]

Originally posted by Chimbo:

Originally posted by -DI- rmjohnson144:

At first glance, it looks typical. Too large of lone R. C, and I areas with poor connection to the city. You have one cargo train to handle almost a full tile of Industry only. One train station can't handle that much freight.

RCI needs to be closer together. This is an agent simulator, so cims need to make deliveries on time. They just have too far to travel and time out and fail their missions.

Maybe try plopping down a cargo station in generic industry and another in middle of commerce and connect the two to each other only and they should supply each other at least a little bit.

Try mixing RCI in the same 1-tile so they can interact better. Then supplement with transportation options.

Try to keep industry and commerce right next to major highways so they can get freight on/off the road ASAP.

Overall, it looks nice, but imbalanced. It's going to take some major tweaking, but probably easier than starting over. Just try to keep things within half a tile of each other for best results.

Yeah maybe I don't have enough train station but it would explain why commercial areas far from industrial areas are don't work. But in some neighboorhood (like Gallagham (next to the canyon) and Windsor Cliff (on the sea side)) shops and industries are so close they could deliver on foot (50 meters and no traffic) ! And residentials area don't seem to care if they are far away from anything else. There is absolutely 0 delivery vehicule in the whole city (except for import/export). That's why I think it's a bug. Especially because I build very slowly and it worked really well until on day everything went wrong.
The other possibility would be if an update changed the rules for commercial-industrial local delivery. Like maybe if one level in industry can only deliver to the same level of commerce ?

But already thank you guys for helping me :D

I took quick glance and seen plenty of delivery vehicles all over the map. the colored ones are for import and export. But there is no color for local deliveries. I think that is what is confusing you.

Gotta run, I'll look more closely later.

[holbs]

Wondering??? - If you are using the "zone brush" to surround your IND/COM areas, you didn't happen to turn on the option to not allow large trucks in them, did you?

[MarkJohnson]

Okay, I looked it over again more thoroughly. I'm finally over the flu.

Looks like it is what I thought it was initially. You're past your vehicle limit, so it doesn't spawn a vehicle every time it wants one and has to wait until one gets off the road to spawn another one. So you have shortages everywhere now. Then when you get shortages, then you get more vehicle demand from lack of service coverage and it compounds onto itself.

I am going to install the CSL Service Reserve mods and set it to the max.and see what happens.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=529979180

EDIT:

I messed around with it and dezoned thousands of city blocks and got vehicles to a manageable 12k instead of the max of 16k vehicles that were preventing new vehicles from spawning.

I added a few mods, so hit subscribe before launch. I think I had autobulldoze subscribed. You can remove it as it's not needed. I just used it to create more empty zones to dezone.

WARNING:

Traffic is very heavy now. They are spawning like mad now and they look very upset still. I upgraded a lot of your roads to 6-lane as they are faster and will get traffic off the road more quickly. I mostly upgrade the 4-lane with divider as they prevent left turns and cause traffic to reroute as it makes each street two one-way roads as they can't cross the street and have to go around the block to make their destination.

Good luck and have fun.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1294821346

[Chimbo]

Thank you ! I can't wait to try :D

I was pretty sure I couldn't see any delivery truck because I know how they look like (and it's usually 3/5 of the traffic)

So do I have do be careful about something in the future ? Like, can this happen again ?

[Imparfecto]

another thing you can do to help counter this problem is to boost the public transport options you have in your city; this will motivate your cims to use public transport to travel instead of personal vehicles, thus freeing up more space for commercial vehicles. :)

Invest into as many types of transport as possible too though ("cargo hub" for both rail + ship transport is good too!).

Enjoy ^^