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Massive lag with good pc
I have GTX 1060 6GB, i7-7700, 16GB RAM and when my city grows up to 10k population i get 20 fps outzoomed and about 13 zoomed. I remember I was playing it like year ago on this pc and it was great 60fps. Other games still work in 60fps like Hitman 2, BF1 etc., but Cities Skylines just goes laggy. Does anyone know how to fix it? P.S. sorry for bad english
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MonkehMaster 24 AGO 2019 a las 6:30 
Publicado originalmente por aubergine18:
> never ever manually set your paging file, always let windows manage it

That causes problems for many users, particularly if their disk starts filling because Windows will just start shrinking page file and then the game will crash. Which is why we recommend setting it manually so you reserve the space needed for game to run (or at the very least realise you're running low on disk space and have to do something to fix that).

windows does not shrink the paging file, it always stays the same size as the amount of ram you have while letting windows manage it, also it hardly ever fills up unless your running something that eats all your ram.

not sure where you came up with that information, but i have been building and working with computers and games for 30yrs.
leftbehind 24 AGO 2019 a las 6:54 
@MonkehMaster: Stop posting junk advice.

Letting Windows manage page file size means: Let Windows manage it.

If it's too small, Windows will try increasing it (fails if not enough disk space, also causes lag, might also happen too slow and crash the game). And if the drive is getting full, Windows will _shrink_ the page file to free up space (which in turn impacts the game, often causing crashes).

We do not recommend people set the size manually by accident. We recommend that because it works and it's helped huge numbers of people get their game running again. It also makes users aware of how much drive space they have free, which is also a common problem as junk builds up over time.

Oh, and then there's this...

https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/help/4055223/memory-allocation-errors-can-be-caused-by-slow-page-file-growth

If the page file is correctly _manually_ set (we've found that setting initial size = same as RAM, max size = 2 x RAM, works best _by actually testing it and confirming that it works well_) then the issue with lag is almost certainly Workshop stuff (likely mods, but could be assets too).

That's why the log file is needed, to see if it is infested with errors or broken mods.

If you read that performance guide I posted, there are also mods listed in there which are known to tank frame rate. Many popular mods such as 81 Tiles, Prop Line Tool, TM:PE (I'm on the team that maintains it, we are working on improving it) and others will eat away at frame rate.

Also, if you actually took time to performance profile the game, as many modders are now starting to do, you'd realise that a big chunk of frame rate gets eaten by the user interface. We suspected this for a while, then realised we were wrong, then found out we were right (thanks to Egi making a mod that nuked all the UI = game was running at 120fps) and are now trying to make a mod that reduces or prevents the UI updates that are occurring on tens of thousands of UI controls every single frame.
Última edición por leftbehind; 24 AGO 2019 a las 6:55
MonkehMaster 24 AGO 2019 a las 6:56 
Publicado originalmente por aubergine18:
snip...

stop spreading horrible advice, no one should be manually setting their paging file, they simply need more ram, end off story.

btw i dont need your advice, the game runs great on my pc.

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MAIN SPECS:
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OS:

win 7 pro 64bit

CPU:

i7 6850k 6 core @4.0ghz (no overclock)

GPU:

asus rog strix 1080 8GB ddr5x vram (no overclock)

RAM:

64GB ram g-skill trident z ddr4 3000mhz (no overclock)

SSD/HDD:

1TB samsung 960 pro nvme m.2 ssd (OS)

1TB samsung 850 pro 2.5 ssd (games)

western digital 4TB gold (storage)
Última edición por MonkehMaster; 24 AGO 2019 a las 7:05
MonkehMaster 24 AGO 2019 a las 7:05 
Publicado originalmente por aubergine18:
Mate, your approach might work when scamming money out of your customers, but it sure doesn't work for C:SL. You've not even tested whether it is a RAM issue or not. You've not tested anything. You've just blurted out "buy more stuff".

false
TLHeart 24 AGO 2019 a las 10:47 
Publicado originalmente por MonkehMaster:
Publicado originalmente por aubergine18:
snip...

stop spreading horrible advice, no one should be manually setting their paging file, they simply need more ram, end off story.
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not everyone can afford to buy more ram, and even microsoft says to increase page file MANUALLY when a person can not afford more ram... or their computer can not support more ram... Your 30 years of advice is BAD advice.
Four Elements 24 AGO 2019 a las 13:05 
@the OP.
I have also an i7-7700 @3,60Ghz, NVIDIA 1060 (6gb) and 32 gb ram. The game runs on an SSD. Windows 10 (64bit). All settings on max. I have also all dlc's and radio stations enabled.
On my current city, I have 49 mods and 2700 assets enabled. Some of the mods I'm using right now, are graphical mods, like dynamic resolution, relight, Ultimate eyecandy and so on. I get 32-40 fps when zoomed out and 10 to 14 fps when zoomed in, which is quite normal for this game as far as I know. I also use a 4k theme which drops the fps too.
Post your output log file as stated and shown above and the answer to your issue is probably there :)
MonkehMaster 24 AGO 2019 a las 18:44 
Publicado originalmente por tenderloveheart:
Publicado originalmente por MonkehMaster:

stop spreading horrible advice, no one should be manually setting their paging file, they simply need more ram, end off story.
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not everyone can afford to buy more ram, and even microsoft says to increase page file MANUALLY when a person can not afford more ram... or their computer can not support more ram... Your 30 years of advice is BAD advice.

ram is cheap atm, so saying you cant afford it is a bad excuse.
TLHeart 24 AGO 2019 a las 22:35 
Publicado originalmente por MonkehMaster:
Publicado originalmente por tenderloveheart:
not everyone can afford to buy more ram, and even microsoft says to increase page file MANUALLY when a person can not afford more ram... or their computer can not support more ram... Your 30 years of advice is BAD advice.

ram is cheap atm, so saying you cant afford it is a bad excuse.
not an excuse, reality for many folks...and what if like mine, ram is already at what the mother board can support, but by setting the paging file manually to 3x my ram, cities skylines runs just fine.... won't run if I don't set the page file manually....

So again your advice is BAD advice.
Mazisky 25 AGO 2019 a las 2:35 
Guys, lack of Ram cause stuttering and microfreezes, also impact loading times but it has nothing to do with FPS.
Fps are mostly GPU or CPU related, not to mention heavy mods.
Última edición por Mazisky; 25 AGO 2019 a las 2:35
MonkehMaster 25 AGO 2019 a las 6:54 
Publicado originalmente por tenderloveheart:
Publicado originalmente por MonkehMaster:

ram is cheap atm, so saying you cant afford it is a bad excuse.
not an excuse, reality for many folks...and what if like mine, ram is already at what the mother board can support, but by setting the paging file manually to 3x my ram, cities skylines runs just fine.... won't run if I don't set the page file manually....

So again your advice is BAD advice.

again excuse, if your using a mobo that doesnt support 32/64 or heck even 128GB RAM then your obviously running outdated hardware, but i highly doubt thats the case, penny pinching isnt the way to go, especially since RAM is quite cheap atm.

so again, your advice is quite BAD, you never ever need to run huge page files set manually (especially for a game, thats just silly LOL), windows can set it for you.

my paging file is the same as my RAM (64GB), set by windows and guess what... it isnt needed, my paging file barely gets used and is about 60+mb in size atm.
Última edición por MonkehMaster; 25 AGO 2019 a las 6:58
CyberVibes 25 AGO 2019 a las 8:27 
Who is this guy, never seen him before he pops up telling everyone their advice is bad and talks out of his rear even when things are explained to him by learned members of the forum. He repeats himself incessantly and thinks he knows better than ppl who have been advising about system resources for over 3 years on this forum and if he's trying to make ppl look a fool then it won't be long before the bus hits him and he wakes up to his nonsense.
Ok i got it that it's my pc problem no need to argue anymore
CyberVibes 25 AGO 2019 a las 9:03 
Unfortunately Monkeh was told about arguing yesterday and still has managed to insult another 4 forum members at least with his nonsense, despite a few of us standing back to not create a drama, we can't have him spouting his nonsense and leading people who need help astray, i'm sorry that this has happened in your thread but it has to be cleared up that his info is worthless to 99% of the users of this forum.
leftbehind 25 AGO 2019 a las 9:31 
@JoyyyZ It is almost certainly not your PC that is the problem.

Share your log file so we can see what is _actually_ causing the slow fps.

Without the logs, we are just blind guessing and that guarantees a failure to solve the problem.

How to find & share log file: https://github.com/krzychu124/Cities-Skylines-Traffic-Manager-President-Edition/wiki/Share-your-Cities-Skylines-log-file (that's in the TM:PE wiki but is relevant to all users even if not using TM:PE)
Última edición por leftbehind; 25 AGO 2019 a las 9:31
MonkehMaster 25 AGO 2019 a las 10:40 
Publicado originalmente por JoyyyZ:
Ok i got it that it's my pc problem no need to argue anymore

they feel the need to argue, they did it awhile back when i first purchased the game, they seem to think their horrible advice is better than professional advice from experienced users.

its kinda sad <_<

id like to say, its not your pc that the problem (your pc is fine), its the limits of this game, it has an issue with ram (memory leaking to be exact), the more assets and mods you use the more memory it eats, you wont find this in very many games.
Última edición por MonkehMaster; 25 AGO 2019 a las 10:45
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