32gb ddr4 or 64gb ddr3?

[gaudintig]

Hello my question is about game performances and computer configuration.
I have now 32gb of ddr4 ram on my pc, although it is way enough for casual gaming as you know it can be sometimes insufficient when it comes to cities skylines and using lots of mods and assets.
So I’m thinking of extending my ram to 64gb. Problem is: I have 4x8gb ram configuration and the 4 slots on my motherboard are used. So I have no choice to buy 4 new rams of 16gb. And I am unfortunately not a millionaire, so I was thinking about taking ddr3 ram because it is way cheaper, but it is a smart choice in your opinion? Will I have better performances for cities skylines with 64gb of ddr3 ram rather than 32gb in ddr4? (also considering that the ram I have now is 3200mhz witch seems pretty high grade).
Sorry for the long message and my struggle with English I hope you’ll understand my question.
Thanks in advance.

[dadyrghluv69]

The ddr 4 will give you longer lasting power in the long run meaning you won't need to upgrade as early as with ddr3. The more you spend as far as up to date parts the less in the long run you will be forced to spend later

[grapplehoeker]

You didn't mention which cpu you're using and that will pretty much determine whether you can use ddr4 or ddr3.
In terms of gaming performance, while ddr4 is slightly better, there really isn't a great enough difference to justify the huge price difference.
See this comparison review...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utWnjA4NzSA
Whether you use ddr4 or ddr3, there will of course be a significant advantage when it comes to how you will use it for Cities: Skylines. In this case, it isn't so much about memory speed differences, but about memory capacity. 64GB RAM will offer the option to subscribe to twice as much custom content than 32GB. That's the relevent difference here.
Having said that, 32GB does allow you to subscribe to thousands of assets and that should be more than sufficient for most players.

[毒Toxic]

You might run into compatibility issues. DDR4 RAM Slots, those on your pc are not compatible with DDR3 RAM sticks. So stick to DDR4. If you want to change to DDR3, you might have to change motherboards or even a new CPU.

[jhughes]

I'm pretty sure that there are no motherboards that can use both DDR3 and DDR4.

"DDR4 RAM is not backwards compatible with DDR3 motherboards and vice versa. The notch has been moved to prevent accidental insertion of the wrong type of memory. Instead of 240 pins, each module features 288 pins."

[gaudintig]

Originally posted by dadyrghluv69:

The ddr 4 will give you longer lasting power in the long run meaning you won't need to upgrade as early as with ddr3. The more you spend as far as up to date parts the less in the long run you will be forced to spend later

Yes you’re right and I have experienced with may times with my computer configurations when I try to spend a few hundred euros and then it ends up with having to pay twice the price for upgrading a few months later.

Originally posted by grapplehoeker:

You didn't mention which cpu you're using and that will pretty much determine whether you can use ddr4 or ddr3.
In terms of gaming performance, while ddr4 is slightly better, there really isn't a great enough difference to justify the huge price difference.
See this comparison review...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utWnjA4NzSA
Whether you use ddr4 or ddr3, there will of course be a significant advantage when it comes to how you will use it for Cities: Skylines. In this case, it isn't so much about memory speed differences, but about memory capacity. 64GB RAM will offer the option to subscribe to twice as much custom content than 32GB. That's the relevent difference here.

My cpu is a i7-7700k.
Thanks for the answer. In which case for instance would speed matter over capacity?
So in the case of cities skylines if I understood well there is no need to care much about speed as long as ram is just about how much assets can be loaded?


Overall, would I be likely to get better game performances (fps, lag...) with a better ram?

Thanks for the quick answers

[gaudintig]

Originally posted by 毒Toxic:

You might run into compatibility issues. DDR4 RAM Slots, those on your pc are not compatible with DDR3 RAM sticks. So stick to DDR4. If you want to change to DDR3, you might have to change motherboards or even a new CPU.

Originally posted by jhughes:

I'm pretty sure that there are no motherboards that can use both DDR3 and DDR4.

"DDR4 RAM is not backwards compatible with DDR3 motherboards and vice versa. The notch has been moved to prevent accidental insertion of the wrong type of memory. Instead of 240 pins, each module features 288 pins."

Oh ok so there is no choice.
Btw I looked on amazon and the price is not so different so I’ll go for ddr4, the price difference is not worth downgrading to ddr4 even if it would be compatible.

[OVKHuman]

I think skylake + needs ddr4, i mean NEEDS, no DDR3

[MarkJohnson]

DDR3 and DDR4 are completely different and are NOT interchangeable. You have no choice but to choose DDR4. Yeah, it's not cheap.

Ram prices have doubled since smartphones took over the market. So PC parts are going up in price lately since the market seems to have leveled out somewhat.

RAM won't affect FPS per se. Not a noticable amount anyway. It's more for responsiveness (lag). As long as you ned the minimum speed. DDR4-2400 for the 7700 you have. Any higher won't see any performance in you games at all. But get the best bargain. Sometime the faster ones are on sale for less than the 2400MHz models.

[OVKHuman]

Originally posted by -DI- rmjohnson144:

DDR3 and DDR4 are completely different and are NOT interchangeable. You have no choice but to choose DDR4. Yeah, it's not cheap.

Ram prices have doubled since smartphones took over the market. So PC parts are going up in price lately since the market seems to have leveled out somewhat.

RAM won't affect FPS per se. Not a noticable amount anyway. It's more for responsiveness (lag). As long as you ned the minimum speed. DDR4-2400 for the 7700 you have. Any higher won't see any performance in you games at all. But get the best bargain. Sometime the faster ones are on sale for less than the 2400MHz models.

and the amount of assets you can have

[BLKBRDSR71]

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/gaming-benchmarks-ddr4-2133-mhz-vs-ddr4-3000-mhz-core-i7-6700k.231776/

[BLKBRDSR71]

Originally posted by grapplehoeker:

You didn't mention which cpu you're using and that will pretty much determine whether you can use ddr4 or ddr3.
In terms of gaming performance, while ddr4 is slightly better, there really isn't a great enough difference to justify the huge price difference.
See this comparison review...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utWnjA4NzSA
Whether you use ddr4 or ddr3, there will of course be a significant advantage when it comes to how you will use it for Cities: Skylines. In this case, it isn't so much about memory speed differences, but about memory capacity. 64GB RAM will offer the option to subscribe to twice as much custom content than 32GB. That's the relevent difference here.
Having said that, 32GB does allow you to subscribe to thousands of assets and that should be more than sufficient for most players.

Yay! Linus... <3

[scpool1986]

If you have questions about compability and capacity Crucial Memory has a mini app you can download that will tell you how much of what type your computer can handle. You can then either buy the suggested memory products they have or use the info to shop around. Better to buy and know it works the first time if you’re limited on funds than to buy and have it not work then have to fight to do a return or exchange. Hope this helps.

[MarkJohnson]

Originally posted by BLKBRDSR71:

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/gaming-benchmarks-ddr4-2133-mhz-vs-ddr4-3000-mhz-core-i7-6700k.231776/

This test is bogus.

first, he is overclocking his CPU which will benefit from faster memory

second, the 6700k (all 6000 series CPUs) want DDR4-2400 memory, not DDR4-2133 he is testing with.

But AMD benefits greatly. They require DDR4-3000 but only DDR4-2400 is recommended. This is just either poor testing, or the memory controller is a weak link, or some other factor.

But stock CPUs should never benefit from overclocked RAM or the manufacturer did something wrong or things went wrong somewhere along the production lines.

[diddy]

Is 64 Gb of RAM really even nesessary unless you have some kind of industrial workload?

[bobSheep]

Originally posted by KingTiger101:

Is 64 Gb of RAM really even nesessary unless you have some kind of industrial workload?

well,
I have 32GB and i'm running 20GB of RAMdisk and 12GB is for normal use.
A RAMdisk acts as a normal disk, but it speeds exceed 6-10GB/s or gearter, eventhou, not every game actually loads faster though.

Regarding Ctities, well, I haven't had my RAM usage exceed 6GB or something like that.
But my cities usually have 50-100k and some 50 assets or so..