Where are the slums?

[Wolfsun]

Why no slums? Or maybe I just never noticed them? Or maybe I'm just so freaking good that they never have a chance to develop (and if you believe that there's a bridge in Brooklyn I know you'll want and I'll sell it to ya - great deal...).

Seriously? How come no slums?

[grapplehoeker]

引用自 Yggdrasil：

引用自 Digihuman：

So, you want sources, do ye?

Nope. Keep your sources and your own definition and stick with the point:
Show me a country in Europe where what I would call a slum is common place. I think I have been pretty clear on what I would call a slum. Show me that this is common all over Europe.

If your definition is different (and it seems less distinguishing) then fine. But you had everything to know that's not what I mean so stop calling me delusional or a denier of the existance of poverty over semantics.

Fighting over what's the right definition of what is petty.

Nobody is saying it is commonplace. However, to deny that there are any slums in some European cities is naïve and ignorant.

[Horoai]

引用自 grapplehoeker：

Nobody is saying it is commonplace. However, to deny that there are any slums in some European cities is naïve and ignorant.

OP was saying just that.

Likewise, I would say lumping whatever bottom-end settlements and living standards (how terrible they may be) together with what is happening in Africa (,maybe India) is naive and ignorant.

[Digihuman]

引用自 Yggdrasil：

引用自 Digihuman：

So, you want sources, do ye?

Nope. Keep your sources and your own definition and stick with the point:
Show me a country in Europe where what I would call a slum is common place. I think I have been pretty clear on what I would call a slum. Show me that this is common all over Europe.

If your definition is different (and it seems less distinguishing) then fine. But you had everything to know that's not what I mean so stop calling me delusional or a denier of the existance of poverty over semantics.

Fighting over what's the right definition of what is petty.

But the entire point of this topic was over the colloquial type of slum, slums we actually find in cities. Wanting THAT in a game. you're the deluded nimrod who decided who go all "Well I have a defition of slums that isn't commonly used and I don't think there are any slums in Europe based on my very narrow definition which I am using to conflate African living conditions and low-wealth living conditions elsewhere".

[grapplehoeker]

引用自 Yggdrasil：

引用自 grapplehoeker：

Nobody is saying it is commonplace. However, to deny that there are any slums in some European cities is naïve and ignorant.

OP was saying just that.

Likewise, I would say lumping whatever bottom-end settlements and living standards (how terrible they may be) together with what is happening in Africa (,maybe India) is naive and ignorant.

Don't be obtuse. A slum is a slum. There are slums in European cities. The word itself derived from there and was later quite rightly attributed to the apalling conditions you see in some african communities as well as elsewhere in the world. That in no way means that the conditions are the same or even comparable. There are slums and then there are slums. You however insist that there are none in Europe. That, my dear hermit, is ignorance talking.

[Wolfsun]

引用自 grapplehoeker:：

Nobody is saying it is commonplace. However, to deny that there are any slums in some European cities is naïve and ignorant.

引用自 Yggdrasil:：

OP was saying just that.

Uhhhh... OP here and no I wasn't saying "just that". Made no such statement. Or maybe you're just making an incorrect statement because you don't think you'll get called on it.

What I DID in the original post was to ask, "why no slums?". Pretty straightforward question. No, I didn't mention Cities Skylines but since this is a game forum that exists specifically to address Cities Skylines a reasonable person would/should - assuming they have an IQ higher than room temperature - be able to deduce that the question related to Cities Skylines.

The single other post I've made responding to another who just pulled nonsense out of his nether parts responding to my OP may - may have implied that I believed the devs had an agenda. I admit that I did flat out state that if the guy I was responding to was right that the devs would then definitely be living in a fantasy world.

I asked a reasonable question, did it with a bit of humor - or maybe not - but the s.hit storm that followed was totally unexpected - at least until I remembered where I was.

Now - since you indirectly asked and since everyone else has chimed in - do I believe that every large city has slums? Yeah. Every city at some point in it's history will have depressed areas where the crime rate is elevated and poverty is the rule and not the exception. That's reality. You lefty snowflakes can deny it all you want. Doesn't change reality.

Do slums belong in the game? Depends on what players want. Personally I think preventing them in game by prudent use of funds, taxation, bulldozing, education etc or eliminating them or revitalizing depressed areas would make for a much more challenging and fun game. Others may disagree. Each to his own. H.ELL! Some might even like creating conditions that encourage them.

All that said - they're not in the game. I think they should be. I wondered why they're not.

Still haven't gotten an answer from those in the know and here's a clue - the players don't know. All they can do is voice an opinion - some interesting, some funny, some ignorant and some well reasoned.

But - until a dev shows up and says why there's no slums in CS the question remains open.

Why no slums in CS?

[Vinolik]

Devs dont look here by the way. Only moderators who know as much as we do. Go to the PD forums if you want real answers

[grapplehoeker]

引用自 Werewolf13：

All that said - they're not in the game. I think they should be. I wondered why they're not.

Ah but they can be ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CumAvkC33vY
and for beautiful cinematography...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUISDnjYUP8

Why no slums in CS?

Build some.

[Lonesome 77]

@OP - hard to say of course. Maybe they figured that they could depend on the workshop as the facet by which players can fine tune their own experience; and I guess it paid off because the workshop doesn't disappoint generally. There's so much stuff on it, and it's free.

IMO vanilla C:S is the house, workshop C:S is the home.

[Czardus]

This thread has been quite entertaining.