KINGDOM HEARTS -HD 1.5+2.5 ReMIX-

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what order do i play the games
the numbers are really confusing
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Toasty 15 Jun 2024 @ 9:49pm 
Diposting pertama kali oleh SPEEDRUNNER041:
then that mean kh1 still the best way to start ?
Yes, KH1 is the only real way to start the series.

They're best played in release order.
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Diposting pertama kali oleh Drake Platinum THE WORLD:
You couldn't be more wrong. It actually makes the series even more tragic since you get context on Terra, Ventus & Aqua so early. Your logic on BBS makes no sense regardless considering you aren't going to know anybody in KH1 either since its the first game. Everybody is going to be "random characters". Back cover is also a solid beginning since its literally a backdrop to everything that happens and foreshadows quite a bit.
BBS doesn't actually introduce you to any of the characters from previous games. It's assumed you already know who they are. If you don't, then they're just random characters that appear with little plot relevance.

BBS was made after KH2. It's literally the 6th entry in the series. You're not meant to play it before the first.

Never in my life have I found a story to be more cohesive in release order over chronological KH is no different. There is no you must play it release order. You either pick release or chronological either way the story is told. The difference is with chronological order you get information early that allows you to formulate and solve things faster while not having to be disorientated with back & forth. You also get the satisfaction of a linear timeline. Almost everyone that says do not chrono don't even attempt it. The only real downside is having to go between better gameplay to worse gameplay then back to better. But I never really cared too much for the gameplay in these games the narrative is what matters to me.
Terakhir diedit oleh Drake Platinum THE WORLD; 15 Jun 2024 @ 9:54pm
Toasty 15 Jun 2024 @ 10:07pm 
Diposting pertama kali oleh Drake Platinum THE WORLD:
Never in my life have I found a story to be more cohesive in release order over chronological KH is no different. There is no you must play it release order. You either pick release or chronological either way the story is told. The difference is with chronological order you get information early that allows you to formulate and solve things faster while not having to be disorientated with back & forth. You also get the satisfaction of a linear timeline. Almost everyone that says do not chrono don't even attempt it. The only real downside is having to go between better gameplay to worse gameplay then back to better. But I never really cared too much for the gameplay in these games the narrative is what matters to me.
The story wasn't written chronologically and that'd be painfully obvious if you actually tried to consume it that way.

Notice how Unversed don't appear until AFTER the release of BBS?
Notice how Xion isn't even hinted at in KH2?
How about Axel not acknowledging Roxas looking like Ventus, despite having met both of them?

Even ignoring how bad the story would be, you'd also be jumping all over the place in terms of game mechanics, rather than getting to appreciate each entry for how it improved on the last.
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Diposting pertama kali oleh Drake Platinum THE WORLD:
Never in my life have I found a story to be more cohesive in release order over chronological KH is no different. There is no you must play it release order. You either pick release or chronological either way the story is told. The difference is with chronological order you get information early that allows you to formulate and solve things faster while not having to be disorientated with back & forth. You also get the satisfaction of a linear timeline. Almost everyone that says do not chrono don't even attempt it. The only real downside is having to go between better gameplay to worse gameplay then back to better. But I never really cared too much for the gameplay in these games the narrative is what matters to me.
The story wasn't written chronologically and that'd be painfully obvious if you actually tried to consume it that way.

Notice how Unversed don't appear until AFTER the release of BBS?
Notice how Xion isn't even hinted at in KH2?
How about Axel not acknowledging Roxas looking like Ventus, despite having met both of them?

Even ignoring how bad the story would be, you'd also be jumping all over the place in terms of game mechanics, rather than getting to appreciate each entry for how it improved on the last.


A plot hole is a plot hole regardless how you consume media. That's on the developer not on how you chose to view the series :sarif: and I already mentioned the gameplay drawback which again doesn't really matter to me personally since I don't think any of them are actually very good. You still get the same end result as it all ends up in KH III which arguably has the best gameplay. And that problem is only really with BBS (and maybe 0.2 if you choose to play the eariler part after BBS instead of waiting for later) since Right after KH1 you do not go backwards with mechanics anymore.
Toasty 15 Jun 2024 @ 11:04pm 
Diposting pertama kali oleh Drake Platinum THE WORLD:
A plot hole is a plot hole regardless how you consume media. That's on the developer not on how you chose to view the series :sarif: and I already mentioned the gameplay drawback which again doesn't really matter to me personally since I don't think any of them are actually very good. You still get the same end result as it all ends up in KH III which arguably has the best gameplay. And that problem is only really with BBS (and maybe 0.2 if you choose to play the eariler part after BBS instead of waiting for later) since Right after KH1 you do not go backwards with mechanics anymore.
They're not even all plot holes. BBS and 358/2 actually do attempt to explain why their events aren't referenced in chronologically future games. Their narratives are just confusing and unsatisfying without the context of the previous entries in the series. On top of that, BBS actually spoils a bit of KH1 and KH2. It gives you answers to questions posed in the previous games.

The real silver bullet is that Kingdom Hearts has time travel as a recurring part of the story, making a true chronological playthrough impossible. You're really just meant to follow the story as it unfolded (as they were written).
Alemillach 15 Jun 2024 @ 11:14pm 
On Square Enix Website, there are two orders written as suggested ways to experience Kingdom Hearts (including mobile games).
This is the first suggested roder on Square Enix website, which is almost release order (Days was released after KH2 but here is suggested before it):
  • 1.KINGDOM HEARTS FINAL MIX
  • 2.KINGDOM HEARTS Re:Chain of Memories
  • 3.KINGDOM HEARTS 358/2 Days (HD Remastered Cinematics)
  • 4.KINGDOM HEARTS II FINAL MIX
  • 5.KINGDOM HEARTS Birth by Sleep FINAL MIX
  • 6.KINGDOM HEARTS Re:Coded (HD Remastered Cinematics)
  • 7.KINGDOM HEARTS Dream Drop Distance HD
  • 8.KINGDOM HEARTS 0.2 Birth by Sleep -A fragmentary passage-
  • 9.KINGDOM HEARTS χ Back Cover (movie)
  • 10.KINGDOM HEARTS Union χ [Cross] (view story in theatre)
  • 11.KINGDOM HEARTS III
  • 12.KINGDOM HEARTS III Re Mind DLC
  • 13.KINGDOM HEARTS Union χ [Cross] Dark Road
  • 14.KINGDOM HEARTS Melody of Memory

The other suggestion on the website is the chronological order, which I am personally trying this time, but I have to clarify that I have played all the games in release order before the pc release, so I am doing it as a means of experiencing it in a different way this time. I think release order mantains mysteries better, but chrono is feeling good for a replay at least. As if it is for a first gameplay? I don't know, it certainly has less mysteries played this way, but if that is better or worse depends on personal tastes.
The order on Square Enix for suggested chronological:
  • 1.KINGDOM HEARTS χ Back Cover (movie)
  • 2.KINGDOM HEARTS Union χ [Cross] (view story in theater)
  • 3.KINGDOM HEARTS DARK ROAD
  • 4.KINGDOM HEARTS Birth by Sleep FINAL MIX
  • 5.KINGDOM HEARTS 0.2 Birth by Sleep -A fragmentary passage-
  • 6.KINGDOM HEARTS FINAL MIX
  • 7.KINGDOM HEARTS Re:Chain of Memories
  • 8.KINGDOM HEARTS 358/2 Days (HD Remastered Cinematics)
  • 9.KINGDOM HEARTS II FINAL MIX
  • 10.KINGDOM HEARTS Re:Coded (HD Remastered Cinematics)
  • 11.KINGDOM HEARTS Dream Drop Distance HD
  • 12.KINGDOM HEARTS III
  • 13.KINGDOM HEARTS III Re Mind DLC
  • 14.KINGDOM HEARTS Melody of Memory

Again, these are the ones suggested at SE webpage, not my personal opinion, nor I am saying they are the only way, they also mention that there is no 'correct' starting point, so the suggestions are just that, suggestions.
Diposting pertama kali oleh Vallard:
KH 1.5+2.5 Collection:
KH Final Mix (2002)
KH Re:Chain of Memories (2004) (*)
KH2 Final Mix (2006)
KH 358/2 Days (2009) [Cutscene movie]
KH Birth by Sleep Final Mix (2010)
KH Re:Coded (2011) [Cutscene movie]

Bear in mind gameplay in Kingdom hearts 2 and onward is dramatically improved over KH1 so you'll have that to look forward to. Much less wonky platforming.

Ugh, KH1's platforming always makes me have a sad. It gave me problems back in my PS2 era, it gave me problems when I played it on PS5, and it continues to to give me problems on PC. Racing Riku on Destiny Island and failing due to the janky platforming always fills me with a seething rage,
Terakhir diedit oleh MeltingPotOfFriendship; 15 Jun 2024 @ 11:19pm
Toasty 15 Jun 2024 @ 11:35pm 
Diposting pertama kali oleh Alemillach:
The order on Square Enix for suggested chronological:
  • 1.KINGDOM HEARTS χ Back Cover (movie)
  • 2.KINGDOM HEARTS Union χ [Cross] (view story in theater)
  • 3.KINGDOM HEARTS DARK ROAD
  • 4.KINGDOM HEARTS Birth by Sleep FINAL MIX
  • 5.KINGDOM HEARTS 0.2 Birth by Sleep -A fragmentary passage-
  • 6.KINGDOM HEARTS FINAL MIX
[Defunct mobile games that spoil previous entries] - 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th in play order
[KH3 prologue] - 5th in play order
[Game that's literally the introduction to the franchise] - 6th in play order

I couldn't think of a worse first impression than this.
Terakhir diedit oleh Toasty; 15 Jun 2024 @ 11:38pm
Alemillach 15 Jun 2024 @ 11:43pm 
Diposting pertama kali oleh Toasty:
Diposting pertama kali oleh Alemillach:
The order on Square Enix for suggested chronological:
  • 1.KINGDOM HEARTS χ Back Cover (movie)
  • 2.KINGDOM HEARTS Union χ [Cross] (view story in theater)
  • 3.KINGDOM HEARTS DARK ROAD
  • 4.KINGDOM HEARTS Birth by Sleep FINAL MIX
  • 5.KINGDOM HEARTS 0.2 Birth by Sleep -A fragmentary passage-
  • 6.KINGDOM HEARTS FINAL MIX
[Mobile games that spoil previous entries] 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th in play order
[Game that's literally the introduction to the franchise] - 6th in play order

I couldn't think of a worse first impression than this.
Well, this is one of the two ways SE suggest it especially for first time players. It looks a very different experience than the (mostly) release order, but some people may like it like this. I sitll think this is a more a second playthough thing, but if someone wishes to do it on first, that is their choice, and SE isn't discouraging it in the slightest, so I guess they consider it just different experience and not a bad/wrong experience.

PD. BBS isn't a mobile game but a port from a PSP one. The fact is spoils things remains unchanged though.
Swole Diccus 15 Jun 2024 @ 11:50pm 
Diposting pertama kali oleh Koldmana:
This thread made me remove all 3 games from my cart.
based. this series is cringe any way.
Toasty 15 Jun 2024 @ 11:50pm 
Diposting pertama kali oleh Alemillach:
Well, this is one of the two ways SE suggest it especially for first time players. It looks a very different experience than the (mostly) release order, but some people may like it like this. I sitll think this is a more a second playthough thing, but if someone wishes to do it on first, that is their choice, and SE isn't discouraging it in the slightest, so I guess they consider it just different experience and not a bad/wrong experience.

PD. BBS isn't a mobile game but a port from a PSP one. The fact is spoils things remains unchanged though.
It's a moot point anyway. Nobody is actually going to play the games like that for their first playthrough. If they did, they probably wouldn't even finish Union before either playing KH1 or dropping the series altogether.

And yeah, I know BBS is a PSP game. What I meant is that it's still an Osaka team game made for handhelds, and it shows.
Toasty 15 Jun 2024 @ 11:52pm 
Diposting pertama kali oleh Swole Diccus:
Diposting pertama kali oleh Koldmana:
This thread made me remove all 3 games from my cart.
based. this series is cringe any way.
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Alemillach 16 Jun 2024 @ 12:00am 
Diposting pertama kali oleh Toasty:
It's a moot point anyway. Nobody is actually going to play the games like that for their first playthrough. If they did, they probably wouldn't even finish Union before either playing KH1 or dropping the series altogether.

And yeah, I know BBS is a PSP game. What I meant is that it's still an Osaka team game made for handhelds, and it shows.
Maybe, but there is lots of different people, so we can't say for certain no one prefers it that way. As I said, I prefer it for a second playthough not a first but that is just me, someone may like it for a first or never like it like this.
On another topic, I personally love UX story (enjoyed in the theatre as it is now without having to grind/wait for more release, but with a custom char, in youtube videos it doesn't feel the same as that is not your char), and I find it attractive even outside the context of the rest of games. I don't think I would have dropped it if it had been my first game, but no way to know it as it certaily hasn't been.
Diposting pertama kali oleh Toasty:
Diposting pertama kali oleh Alemillach:
Well, this is one of the two ways SE suggest it especially for first time players. It looks a very different experience than the (mostly) release order, but some people may like it like this. I sitll think this is a more a second playthough thing, but if someone wishes to do it on first, that is their choice, and SE isn't discouraging it in the slightest, so I guess they consider it just different experience and not a bad/wrong experience.

PD. BBS isn't a mobile game but a port from a PSP one. The fact is spoils things remains unchanged though.
It's a moot point anyway. Nobody is actually going to play the games like that for their first playthrough. If they did, they probably wouldn't even finish Union before either playing KH1 or dropping the series altogether.

And yeah, I know BBS is a PSP game. What I meant is that it's still an Osaka team game made for handhelds, and it shows.

I did. Very rarely do I do a release order run on my first attempt. Unless I play as the games dropped. And I didn't with KH as I only played bits and pieces whenever I'd go to someone's house. My first real run was chrono and I loved every second of it. And yes I'm running it again like that on steam since I prefer it to release in every way. Just like 99 percent of all my media.
Diposting pertama kali oleh Alemillach:
On Square Enix Website, there are two orders written as suggested ways to experience Kingdom Hearts (including mobile games).
This is the first suggested roder on Square Enix website, which is almost release order (Days was released after KH2 but here is suggested before it):
  • 1.KINGDOM HEARTS FINAL MIX
  • 2.KINGDOM HEARTS Re:Chain of Memories
  • 3.KINGDOM HEARTS 358/2 Days (HD Remastered Cinematics)
  • 4.KINGDOM HEARTS II FINAL MIX
  • 5.KINGDOM HEARTS Birth by Sleep FINAL MIX
  • 6.KINGDOM HEARTS Re:Coded (HD Remastered Cinematics)
  • 7.KINGDOM HEARTS Dream Drop Distance HD
  • 8.KINGDOM HEARTS 0.2 Birth by Sleep -A fragmentary passage-
  • 9.KINGDOM HEARTS χ Back Cover (movie)
  • 10.KINGDOM HEARTS Union χ [Cross] (view story in theatre)
  • 11.KINGDOM HEARTS III
  • 12.KINGDOM HEARTS III Re Mind DLC
  • 13.KINGDOM HEARTS Union χ [Cross] Dark Road
  • 14.KINGDOM HEARTS Melody of Memory

The other suggestion on the website is the chronological order, which I am personally trying this time, but I have to clarify that I have played all the games in release order before the pc release, so I am doing it as a means of experiencing it in a different way this time. I think release order mantains mysteries better, but chrono is feeling good for a replay at least. As if it is for a first gameplay? I don't know, it certainly has less mysteries played this way, but if that is better or worse depends on personal tastes.
The order on Square Enix for suggested chronological:
  • 1.KINGDOM HEARTS χ Back Cover (movie)
  • 2.KINGDOM HEARTS Union χ [Cross] (view story in theater)
  • 3.KINGDOM HEARTS DARK ROAD
  • 4.KINGDOM HEARTS Birth by Sleep FINAL MIX
  • 5.KINGDOM HEARTS 0.2 Birth by Sleep -A fragmentary passage-
  • 6.KINGDOM HEARTS FINAL MIX
  • 7.KINGDOM HEARTS Re:Chain of Memories
  • 8.KINGDOM HEARTS 358/2 Days (HD Remastered Cinematics)
  • 9.KINGDOM HEARTS II FINAL MIX
  • 10.KINGDOM HEARTS Re:Coded (HD Remastered Cinematics)
  • 11.KINGDOM HEARTS Dream Drop Distance HD
  • 12.KINGDOM HEARTS III
  • 13.KINGDOM HEARTS III Re Mind DLC
  • 14.KINGDOM HEARTS Melody of Memory

Again, these are the ones suggested at SE webpage, not my personal opinion, nor I am saying they are the only way, they also mention that there is no 'correct' starting point, so the suggestions are just that, suggestions.

Yup that was literally my point. There are two routes to run these games. Both are viable to both veterans and newcomers. I found the latter was superior in story telling and flowed better than the jumping of release.
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