KH 1 Motion sickness

[BarbaraElie]

I've waited so long before playing Kingdom Heart... and now that it's on steam I find out that KH 1 gives me motion sickness
This happens when I'm on the island, is it the same for all the areas of the game or not? During the tutorial I had no motion sickness.. it started on the island
Do the others KH games give motion sickness?
I don't want to ask for a refund and I want to be able to play KH
Any suggestion to reduce motion sickness?

[burumanet]

Are you playing in first person? That isn't required at all. If you're playing zoomed out in third person (the proper way for these games) maybe just change the camera settings from automatic to manual.

I've only ever experienced motion sickness with Resident Evil 7 on VR. Combination of frame rates and first person view.

[mdesaleah]

Could be the zoomed in camera.

1 and BBS are zoomed in, while the rest are zoomed out and farther away from the character.

There will probably be a mod if there isnt one already that makes 1 and BBS camera placement more like the later games.

[Sheen]

I suffered motion sickness with Detroit: Become Human playing it at 4K ultra and 60 fps. It was very weird and made me dizzy, although the game performed excellently. I thought of limiting it to 30 fps and the motion sickness disappeared completely.
From what I could read and from what I was told there are times that the implementation of 60 fps, or more, is not well done when porting a game to PC, being those 60 fps not real even if it shows them as stable. The explanation is a bit more complex but I don't remember it right now. The point is that if you see that no solution works for you, try limiting the fps to 30 and see if it works for you. Just in case. :)

[:archerrat: Bad Rats Emoticon]

There's an issue on the island where the fps will default back down to 60 whenever the stupid waterfall is in your cameras field.of.view, regardless of if it's visible. And when it does that there's a horrible frame blending look that happens. Could be that. I found it nauseating

[Terra]

Originally posted by mdesaleah:

Could be the zoomed in camera.

1 and BBS are zoomed in, while the rest are zoomed out and farther away from the character.

There will probably be a mod if there isnt one already that makes 1 and BBS camera placement more like the later games.

I have to assume the reason it's so zoomed in is because 1 was their first time making an action game, so they didn't know.

And BBS was notoriously so strapped for resources on the PSP that they needed it that zoomed in to make sure the game even ran. Remember, they were all supposed to have capes on the entire time, but they couldn't get the cloth physics running without dropping to like 10 FPS.

[BarbaraElie]

Thanks for all the advice
By reducing the FPS from 120 to 60 the motion sickness is reduced, at 30 it almost disappears
For "rotation camera" I selected Manual
For "refresh rate" I selected No
I also think about doing shorter gaming sessions in the areas at risk of motion sickness

[Jenaverse]

Originally posted by BarbaraElie:

Thanks for all the advice :heartbubble:
By reducing the FPS from 120 to 60 the motion sickness is reduced, at 30 it almost disappears
For "rotation camera" I selected Manual
For "refresh rate" I selected No
I also think about doing shorter gaming sessions in the areas at risk of motion sickness

KH1 gave me sickness on PS4 and Epic. Tried your settings and others (on Steam) and it actually made it worse to where I was bedridden for a few days with serious nausea. What worked for me is playing on Steam Deck Oled (plays awesome by default), and Virtual Desktop on Quest 3 wireless-which btw is awesome in VR, like a full room home theater flatscreen gaming!

After buying this series for the third time, I can now finally start my journey with KH on two separate devices because PC desktop and console just didn’t work for me.

[BarbaraElie]

Originally posted by Jenaverse:

Originally posted by BarbaraElie:

Thanks for all the advice
By reducing the FPS from 120 to 60 the motion sickness is reduced, at 30 it almost disappears
For "rotation camera" I selected Manual
For "refresh rate" I selected No
I also think about doing shorter gaming sessions in the areas at risk of motion sickness

KH1 gave me sickness on PS4 and Epic. Tried your settings and others (on Steam) and it actually made it worse to where I was bedridden for a few days with serious nausea. What worked for me is playing on Steam Deck Oled (plays awesome by default), and Virtual Desktop on Quest 3 wireless-which btw is awesome in VR, like a full room home theater flatscreen gaming!

After buying this series for the third time, I can now finally start my journey with KH on two separate devices because PC desktop and console just didn’t work for me.

Did you have motion sickness during the whole game or only on the island? I have almost finished the island but I now limit the time I play to 15-20 minutes (maybe it's the short time spent In the game that works for me)
I'm wondering if Steam Deck Oled is useful to have, if this works for not having motion sickness playing KH1 (and other games) I seriously will put it on my wishlist

[Jenaverse]

Originally posted by BarbaraElie:

Originally posted by Jenaverse:

KH1 gave me sickness on PS4 and Epic. Tried your settings and others (on Steam) and it actually made it worse to where I was bedridden for a few days with serious nausea. What worked for me is playing on Steam Deck Oled (plays awesome by default), and Virtual Desktop on Quest 3 wireless-which btw is awesome in VR, like a full room home theater flatscreen gaming!

After buying this series for the third time, I can now finally start my journey with KH on two separate devices because PC desktop and console just didn’t work for me.

Did you have motion sickness during the whole game or only on the island? I have almost finished the island but I now limit the time I play to 15-20 minutes (maybe it's the short time spent In the game that works for me)
I'm wondering if Steam Deck Oled is useful to have, if this works for not having motion sickness playing KH1 (and other games) I seriously will put it on my wishlist

On PS4 and Epic I got motion sickness from beginning to mid island, so I can’t say whole game as I couldn’t survive the sickness at all. With combination of playing for 2 hours on each Steam Deck and VD+Quest 3, I’m finally off that island and enjoying meeting so many familiar characters!

I have both Steam Deck LCD and Oled, both purchased on launch and have zero regrets with my purchases. When games aren’t Deck verified (or don’t play well) I simply stream those games from my PC to my SD.

[BarbaraElie]

Originally posted by Jenaverse:

On PS4 and Epic I got motion sickness from beginning to mid island, so I can’t say whole game as I couldn’t survive the sickness at all. With combination of playing for 2 hours on each Steam Deck and VD+Quest 3, I’m finally off that island and enjoying meeting so many familiar characters!

I have both Steam Deck LCD and Oled, both purchased on launch and have zero regrets with my purchases. When games aren’t Deck verified (or don’t play well) I simply stream those games from my PC to my SD.

Thank you for the explanation
I don't need VD Quest 3 right now, I don't really like VR games, but maybe I can overcome motion sickness just buying Steam Deck

[Jenaverse]

The small screen and resolution of the SD in handheld form helped me finally enjoy the game. I did not attempt docked due to fear of further nausea. I have what they call VR legs and KH is the first game that gave me a far different type of motion sickness than what I experienced when I first started VR years ago. I also am not experiencing any of the SD audio or display lag that some have been reporting here. For reference, I use the LE Oled SD with stock speakers and default settings, no protons, zero tweaking.

The VD+Q3 is a whole different experience I figured I’d throw out there for VR enthusiast who have yet to try VR flat gaming. It’s my current solution of playing KH in a virtual huge screen vs my PC monitors or TV (SD dock mode) that have given me the KH sickness.