Why the GBA version of Chain of Memories never got ported?

[三Akiyama]

It was so good. Much, much better than the PS2 version. Makes me sad.

[add]

recom is better in every way

[Silyon]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von KaosReigns:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Iron Maiden:

Any clown that says the HD version of Chain Of Memories is better than the GBA version has either not played the GBA version or is monumentally brain and needs his a*s removed. The GBA version is far more fun than Re Chain and it also somehow looks better as well.

Shhh non Owner. Your opinion means nothing, especially when its a bad take.

Here, I will give you a chance. Name something better in the GBA version. Dont say graphics, because that is entirely subjective. If you think GBA craptastic graphics are better, than so be it. That is objectively wrong, but im not about to argue that kind of thing.

Not the same dude, but easy answer. Farming Moogle points.

Re:CoM you must fully regenerate the room to refresh interactable points. Which means refreshing the battles too. GBA the interactables refresh every time the room is entered, so you clear it once and farm up thousands of points in less than a third of the time it takes in Re:CoM. Which in turn makes the whole deck building experience significantly less painful.

[Swiggly Wiggly]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von KaosReigns:

Shhh non Owner. Your opinion means nothing, especially when its a bad take.

Here, I will give you a chance. Name something better in the GBA version. Dont say graphics, because that is entirely subjective. If you think GBA craptastic graphics are better, than so be it. That is objectively wrong, but im not about to argue that kind of thing.

Allow me to chime in, then. As someone who owns the entire series proper, of course.

Opinions on aesthetics are strictly subjective. Anything you claim on that point is completely irrelevant to the argument at hand. You cannot prove in any objective way that any given look is better than another.

And besides that, you were first to claim Re:Chain of Memories was somehow better, so it's on you to name things that it does to make it so.

[KaosReigns]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Swiggly Wiggly:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von KaosReigns:

Shhh non Owner. Your opinion means nothing, especially when its a bad take.

Here, I will give you a chance. Name something better in the GBA version. Dont say graphics, because that is entirely subjective. If you think GBA craptastic graphics are better, than so be it. That is objectively wrong, but im not about to argue that kind of thing.

Allow me to chime in, then. As someone who owns the entire series proper, of course.

Opinions on aesthetics are strictly subjective. Anything you claim on that point is completely irrelevant to the argument at hand. You cannot prove in any objective way that any given look is better than another.

And besides that, you were first to claim Re:Chain of Memories was somehow better, so it's on you to name things that it does to make it so.

No, and I wont entertain this ridiculous thought process either.

What makes Re:CoM better? Literally everything and anything... I shouldnt have to name anything direct, because there is nothing its worse at.

The only exception I will make, is as someone pointed out, its how moogle rooms work. I will stand by my claim Re:CoM is better than the GBA version, for all time. Nothing will change that, due to how the GBA version actually runs.

[mdesaleah]

^Lets see here.

More cutscenes, voice acting, an extra phase for the final battle, more sleighs, more cards (including 358 themed ones), clearly the canon version as referenced by sequels using scenes from this Re during flashbacks..............

Now lets see what gba has:

unique art style and music.....................thats about it.

Should they have included both? Would have been a fun extra. But if they had to only pick one, ReChain is the obvious option.

[Terra]

I think the GBA one controls better.

The card system is clearly designed for a simplistic 2D movement system. When you have full 3D dodging on top of juggling your deck, it just overwhelms most people.

That said Marluxia's third form is legit great.

[Weruat]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von KaosReigns:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Iron Maiden:

Any clown that says the HD version of Chain Of Memories is better than the GBA version has either not played the GBA version or is monumentally brain and needs his a*s removed. The GBA version is far more fun than Re Chain and it also somehow looks better as well.

Shhh non Owner. Your opinion means nothing, especially when its a bad take.

Here, I will give you a chance. Name something better in the GBA version. Dont say graphics, because that is entirely subjective. If you think GBA craptastic graphics are better, than so be it. That is objectively wrong, but im not about to argue that kind of thing.

ReCOM has KH1's god awful camera that is so far up Sora's backside that it might as well be Donald's POV. Also Lethal Frame was an egregiously overpowered sleight that was completely unnecessary.

[Soren]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von mdesaleah:

Now lets see what gba has:

unique art style and music.....................thats about it.

Should they have included both? Would have been a fun extra. But if they had to only pick one, ReChain is the obvious option.

I mean, they got rid of the multiplayer link mode. They used the voice lines from Haley Joel Osment's deeper voice so he doesn't sound like Kingdom Hearts 1 Sora anymore. Which I felt to be a bit jarring since he doesn't age up a few years until Kingdom Hearts 2. Riku was able to level up at the beginning of the game in the original before he got his darkness mode.

Then obviously some people could have liked the 2D style of gameplay over the new 3D. Not to mention, the original was more broken and abusable combat wise. This can be a negative for some people who want a harder and more fair game. But if you like being OP, the original would scratch that itch because the sleights were more effective in the 2D game. I think coolness wise, the original Ragnarok was better too. I was actually kind of disappointed when I unlocked it in the 3D version and it just fired off small projectiles when it used to be a huge beam that covered half the 2D plane. Hence why it was OP in the original. But I still expected a huge 5 foot beam in re:chain of memories none the less and didn't get it.

[Silver Scribbler 9]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von KaosReigns:

The GBA version was bad, like really bad. The HD version is FAR superiour regardless of anyone trying to say otherwise.

Every single aspect of the HD version is better. There is nothing, not ONE THING besides nostalgia, the GBA version provides.

This isnt a Skyward Sword, thats for sure. That games HD version is hard to play due to the controls.

The sprite art on the gba version has charm, it’s nice seeing how they translated the characters to sprite art.
I like both versions. Also you could light Donald on fire in the gba version, which clearly makes it the definitive version.

Which is different from how I feel about skyward sword. Cause the hd version is just a plain upgrade. The motion controls on switch work just as well as the Wii version and the option to play without them and having full control of your camera makes it difficult to go back to the lesser Wii version.

[KAIIRU]

I prefer Re:CoM but if lazy ai upscaling was any indicator, Square Enix will never port CoM because that would require them to lift a finger.

[tommy_lop]

Probably because all though are things that do make the GBA version worth playing RECOM, for the most part, the 3d remake improves pretty much everything and is fairly faithful. There are some line changes, though, in the remake that I wish did not happen (for example, Axel says to consider it a gift to my superior, which is paid off when he kills Vexen, saying now you can say I don't respect my superiors.) Would I recommend people try out the GBA version if it hits like Switch Online absolutely? Would it be redundant to have them in the collection? Yes also.

[UltraSonicCube]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von KaosReigns:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Iron Maiden:

Any clown that says the HD version of Chain Of Memories is better than the GBA version has either not played the GBA version or is monumentally brain and needs his a*s removed. The GBA version is far more fun than Re Chain and it also somehow looks better as well.

Shhh non Owner. Your opinion means nothing, especially when its a bad take.

Here, I will give you a chance. Name something better in the GBA version. Dont say graphics, because that is entirely subjective. If you think GBA craptastic graphics are better, than so be it. That is objectively wrong, but im not about to argue that kind of thing.

i have both Rechain and GBA chain. i haven't completed them both but i have played enough to be part of this convo. GBA chain's gameplay was good because you could understand why they had to adapt the card system. Rechain, there was no point of the card system being there, and most sleights felt changed in a way and didn't have the same magic as GBA chain did. Not to mention, sure characters like Axel and Larxene look better in Rechain, but seeing Namine, Vexen, Marluxia, and even Riku in GBA Chain, you can see they were better there. and the cutscenes in Rechain felt inconsistant between the new voiced cutscenes and the textbased ones since after floor 10, the only text based cutscene you're getting is that One Twilight Town beginning cutscene and the two Destiny Islands cutscenes whilst in GBA chain, all of it is text base with the pre rendered cutscenes being in snippets to make them exciting that they're on the GBA. speaking of which, Sora's voice being older in rechain just makes it wierd, and it continues onto Recoded and Dream Drop Distance. meanwhile, whilst there wasn't voice acting in GBA Chain for Sora, the battle quotes showed his voice doesn't change until kh2, which i feel that GBA chain should be cannon for this if Sora's voice is deeper anyway in Recoded and DDD

[Consul]

com as a whole is a terrible experience. i did my time once a few years ago and i can never see myself touching that heap of garbage again. i heard the gba version was better so i gave it a shot after i beat recom. was arguably better but still not fun.

[Craig]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von KaosReigns:

The GBA version was bad, like really bad. The HD version is FAR superiour regardless of anyone trying to say otherwise.

Every single aspect of the HD version is better. There is nothing, not ONE THING besides nostalgia, the GBA version provides.

This isnt a Skyward Sword, thats for sure. That games HD version is hard to play due to the controls.

Strike Raid is easier to use in 2D (as if it's not already broken in every game it appears in lol)

Ursprünglich geschrieben von UltraSonicCube:

i have both Rechain and GBA chain. i haven't completed them both but i have played enough to be part of this convo. GBA chain's gameplay was good because you could understand why they had to adapt the card system. Rechain, there was no point of the card system being there,

The card system is there because it's a remake of the same game? What kind of nonsense thinking is this? The rest of your complaints are literally cosmetic issues. If you don't like the card gameplay in RECOM then you don't like it in COM. They're the same game dude. You just like it as a text based story and like spritework, sounds like you hate the gameplay overall.

Also Haley Osment was like 14 at the time of recording, they can't control a kid going through puberty. Considering your comment prefers text you could just mute the voice lines and miss nothing. ALSO there is only ONE pre-rendered cutscene on the GBA version... at the start... I feel like you haven't played this game in 20 years because it sucks,

The only thing that the GBA version has over RECOM is you can finish it quicker and RECOM is only like 5-10 hours long.

[tommy_lop]

I liked the GBA version, too, and hope that it gets put on GOG, kind of like what they did with the Resident Evil games. For the most part though RE COM is a good 3d updating of it geting rid of a lot of the frustrating elements things like random jokers and easier to pick room cards keep you from getting stuck if you need a certain room card twords the end which could happen on the GBA. GBA thought it was nice seeing how much work was put into turning those PS2 stages into 2d for the GBA, And they did a fantastic job. Also I think some story elements are stronger in the GBA, espeically with Axel. For example here he says a humble gift to my elders, in the GBA its don't say I don't respect my elders. Why is that important? Because before he kills Vexen, he quips. Now you can tell me I don't respect my elders.