Why Grid Autosport is the best Codemasters game for some time.

[CardinalStorm]

Before I go on to explain why I believe Grid Autosport to be a very good game, I'd like to ask those of you who struggle to read for more than ten seconds to leave and not bother commenting on something you haven't read through; there will be no summary, or TL;DR insert for the impatient here. Like I tell my children, you can't have an opinion on something until you're fully informed. It's sad nowadays, many are fine with spending hours typing whinges and complaints on forums but can't be bothered to spend time reading. Although, considering the significant amount of complete and utter crap written in these boards, it's not entirely surprising that people have tired of reading others posts. But hey, this is the world we live in!

Anyway, I digress.......as usual....apologies if you're already losing your temper over my elaborate introduction.....please, calm down. You'll not do your blood pressure any good at all.

Assetto Corsa, arguably the best racing sim we have at present: very accurate car physics and outstanding "feel" to most of the cars. Your patience and persistence is rewarded with immense satisfaction when you shave yet another 100th off that Imola hotlap. Great stuff, but even the hardened AC fan would have to admit that the single player experience when racing in a pack is lacklustre at best. The AI, although much improved since their first outing, are simply there for the ride, not offering any real excitement to the race. I said to a friend yesterday: when I'm racing around AC with the AI, I feel like I'm doing my own thing, whilst they do theirs. Detached from the action is how I feel in AC single player races. I think it's an amazing sim, but if you want heart pounding, adrenalin fueled racing action, then you need to go online and accept the negatives that come with it.

Grid Autosport, NOT a sim, Codemasters never said it was. I've been playing Codemasters' stuff for almost 30 years, starting when the games were on a cassette, and none of their racers have been true sim. But, what Codemasters USED to offer was a flying by the seat of your pants experience. The original TOCA and McRae games offered this experience in abundance and, in my opinion, that experience stopped after TRD2 and Dirt2. That sense of being caught up in the action; being part of a pack of highly skilled racers; driving so close to line, but managing to escape those almost fatal crashes; experiencing pure exhilaration from each race.

Autosport has those moments, oh yes, and lots of them. Yesterday I was racing open wheelers around Sepang, only a 4-lap race. On the final lap I was in 2nd position, approaching the final corner I hit the brakes as late as I dared, in an attempt to pull up to the apex on the inside. The guy in 1st steered in slightly, causing me to tap his rear left tyre. We both accelerated out onto the final straight, I knew I'd lost that battle and would have to settle for 2nd place. I was amazed, when just 100yrds from the finishing line, I witnessed the same tyre I hit explode, rubber flying everywhere, followed by sparks. His car pulled to the right, stopping on the grass verge, I managed to pass by and took 1st. It made that race so exhilarating you'd be forgiven in thinking it was scripted. Even if it was, who cares? It made that one race the most exciting track experience I've had since playing against some of the world's best online racers many years ago.

Autosport does not offer a sim experience, it is not an AC competitor. The handling isn't real, but it lends well to the experience CM want you to have. It's all about the experience, experience, experience. It offers sheer fun, excitement and many, many WOW moments. Just like my races online used to have, but I don't need to contend with timewasters and the inevitable pile up at the first corner after spending 2 hours qualifying. Autosport offers what Codemasters use to give us with TRD and Dirt; breathtaking, heart pounding, simple fun and powerful experiences.

In my opinion, the best game Codemasters have made for some time.

Good on you, CM.

[Kombucho]

And grid 1 does not have that ?

[bolkiebasher]

Axe の投稿を引用：

Geoff Crammond - please come back wherever you are!

Of course! Geoff Crammond indeed.

[BadMarmoset]

Well said! Although I have my reservations about the AI. Psychos the lot of them. Especially Ravenwest. I did try running them off the road at first, unfortunately their cars are made of solid osmium or may as well be.
I recently got Assetto Corsa. Won my first race against the AI this morning. The cars and tracks are excellent, but you're right it's not quite there yet when it comes to the actual racing. I even missed having Nathan McKane biting at my heels at one point. Strange.

[CardinalStorm]

bolkiebasher の投稿を引用：

...I wonder if you ever played the Microprose F1 games? They were brilliant. :-)

Yep, I really liked the Geoff Crammond stuff, especially GP4, which I though was amazing, sadly the last. Of course, the Microprose games weren't your typical Codemasters racer, being at the sim end of the market. And I think is the cause of much, nonsensical discussion over the last few years.

Ignorant people are too quick to compare the likes of Grid to the likes of Assetto Corsa, just because many were/are under the impression that the original Grid was somehow a sim. It was far from a sim, as is Gran Turismo. Yes, both simulate a racing environment, but neither correctly simulate the intricacies of weight transfer, suspension reaction, brake fade, tyre temperatures/wear, etc.

Too many people get caught up in the bullcrap of how this or that should react in the real world and lose sight of what is really important in a game. FUN. Codemasters have shown me that they can still put out decent, fun racers. And like I've said, for me personally, I've haven't truly enjoyed a CM pack racer since TRD2.

And to those whinging (this planets human inhabitants really need to stop bloody moaning!) about blurry cockpits, rubberbanding AI and whatever else; HANG ON A MINUTE! Codemasters have delivered a great racing game, it looks good, sounds good, runs extremely well and online works fine. If anyone here wants perfection then I'm sorry, you're on planet Earth, it ain't gonna happen.

And if people HAVE to moan (maybe it's a hereditary thing, or maybe you're just from Northern England, ha, j/k) then focus your whinging, whiny efforts towards the likes of Watch Dogs. That game is a disgrace as it stands.

[androidvageta]

CardinalStorm の投稿を引用：

Loore の投稿を引用：

.....your feedback is important :)

Worthwhile feedback is always worthwhile. However, Steam forums do seem to contain a particular breed of fools, so I don't envy your task of having to sift through the mountain of tripe. ;)

What? So peoples complaints and criticisms and problems are just tripe? Please. Get off your unnecessarily high-horse. I've had a lot more people agree with me that the game is nothing special to downright awful then not.

All you're doing in your attempt to downplay others is making yourself look bad like the "fools" you're hating on.

[Axe]

androidvageta.

Hi, have you played this game yourself. I just wondered what your own thoughts were?

EDIT Don't bother I see you said you pirated it, in another thread.

[CardinalStorm]

androidvageta の投稿を引用：

CardinalStorm の投稿を引用：

Worthwhile feedback is always worthwhile. However, Steam forums do seem to contain a particular breed of fools, so I don't envy your task of having to sift through the mountain of tripe. ;)

What? So peoples complaints and criticisms and problems are just tripe?

I didn't say that, you did.

But yeah, as Axe has said, why don't you just join the thread without being argumentative? I'm not hating on anybody, it's not in my nature, nor is arguing with a complete stranger over such an insignificant matter.

[CardinalStorm]

Well thank you for your input on the game, Android.

[MancSoulja]

^^^
Finally, everyone hit the report button so we can get rid of this joker for a few days!

[Axe]

Android Vageta の投稿を引用：

Axe の投稿を引用：

EDIT Don't bother I see you said you pirated it, in another thread.

Good...saved myself the money. I love how you think that pirating = invalid opinion...should I waste money in order to have a valid opinion like as if we aren't playing the same game? That's so dumb.

That's like saying that one has to eat an entire jar of habanero peppers before they can say they're hot as ♥♥♥♥.

Not at all matey. I am just not bothered about opinions of those who pirate games OK son?

You have an opinion then fine, but I don't give sh1it. Got that now smartasz?

[Axe]

MancSoulja の投稿を引用：

^^^
Finally, everyone hit the report button so we can get rid of this joker for a few days!

It was done 10 minutes ago...

[MancSoulja]

Android Vageta の投稿を引用：

Axe の投稿を引用：

EDIT Don't bother I see you said you pirated it, in another thread.

Good...saved myself the money. I love how you think that pirating = invalid opinion...should I waste money in order to have a valid opinion like as if we aren't playing the same game? That's so dumb.

That's like saying that one has to eat an entire jar of habanero peppers before they can say they're hot as ♥♥♥♥.

No it's not... It's like saying you can't moan about how hot those pepers are if you just stole them

[CardinalStorm]

Loore の投稿を引用：

Thanks for the kind words. Please do let us know what you think as you continue to play, whether it's something small or big, your feedback is important :)

All I can think of - and it's not a necessity, so let's not get carried away here - are some decent looking cockpits. It would be a nice addition and appreciated by anyone who prefers the interior view.

I don't care why CM chose not to add them, but just tell us the truth, Loore, are we likely to get them?

[MancSoulja]

CardinalStorm の投稿を引用：

Loore の投稿を引用：

Thanks for the kind words. Please do let us know what you think as you continue to play, whether it's something small or big, your feedback is important :)

All I can think of - and it's not a necessity, so let's not get carried away here - are some decent looking cockpits. It would be a nice addition and appreciated by anyone who prefers the interior view.

I don't care why CM chose not to add them, but just tell us the truth, Loore, are we likely to get them?

No we are probably not... PC sales alone will not pay for the extra time and money it would take to model 80+ cockpits and still make x amount of proffit. And it's clear the reason why they are like they are is because of the PS3\360...

[CardinalStorm]

Yeah, I suspected the older consoles were the cause. Oh well, I can live without HD cockpits, not having them doesn't take anything away from the game itself.