tried NR2003

[.30-0sick]

It was so confusing, i downloaded from gamefront and and set up g27, so annoying. anyway. i just deleted it.

Whatever the next nascar game is better be extremly modable. like nr2003. people should be able to make their own tracks and have the AI be able to race on them. I dont think nascar 14 is modable but it should be. Love the sport but havent enjoyed the games for a while.

[Apollo]

Just raced 200 laps at Dover (track made by revamped reloaded) in nr2003. I have the Bullring Gen6 mod including ALL CURRENT SPRINT CUP DRIVERS AND PAINT SCHEMES. I also use NRatings for the AI and used the last 5 year average for each driver. The racing was absolutely AWESOME!!!!!! I seriously doubt there will ever be another NASCAR Racing game that can come close to nr2003 in the way of modding and the quality of the racing. I don't care that it still uses the point system from 2003, it is still far far better than anything that's been on the market since. There is still a very active, very large community out there that still supports it. Not bad for an 11 year old PC game

[.30-0sick]

Originally posted by lnorthon8:

Just raced 200 laps at Dover (track made by revamped reloaded) in nr2003. I have the Bullring Gen6 mod including ALL CURRENT SPRINT CUP DRIVERS AND PAINT SCHEMES. I also use NRatings for the AI and used the last 5 year average for each driver. The racing was absolutely AWESOME!!!!!! I seriously doubt there will ever be another NASCAR Racing game that can come close to nr2003 in the way of modding and the quality of the racing. I don't care that it still uses the point system from 2003, it is still far far better than anything that's been on the market since. There is still a very active, very large community out there that still supports it. Not bad for an 11 year old PC game

well good for you, controls were just to confusing

[indycart6]

i race papy 2003 also with no problems, you just need to set your wheel up right. use the logitech proflier and you will be fine

[.30-0sick]

Originally posted by indycart6:

i race papy 2003 also with no problems, you just need to set your wheel up right. use the logitech proflier and you will be fine

i looked up youtube videos, found something, tried it. but then i changed the feedback and the pedals and nothign workded. i gave up. ill just wait for the 2015 game. maybe it wil be like 2003

[soup]

Originally posted by lnorthon8:

Just raced 200 laps at Dover (track made by revamped reloaded) in nr2003. I have the Bullring Gen6 mod including ALL CURRENT SPRINT CUP DRIVERS AND PAINT SCHEMES. I also use NRatings for the AI and used the last 5 year average for each driver. The racing was absolutely AWESOME!!!!!! I seriously doubt there will ever be another NASCAR Racing game that can come close to nr2003 in the way of modding and the quality of the racing. I don't care that it still uses the point system from 2003, it is still far far better than anything that's been on the market since. There is still a very active, very large community out there that still supports it. Not bad for an 11 year old PC game

where can I buy nr2003 and will my g27work with it?

[Apollo]

Last time I checked, I saw the game for sale on e-bay. You have to do a search there for it. Only place I found, unless anyone else knows different.

[Apollo]

...As for your wheel...I don't know, it should. I use a Logitech MOMO so I'm not sure about the g27....sorry.

[indycart6]

yes the g 27 will work , alot of guys i race with use that. if your looking for some good online racing or league racing check out afterburner motorsports. they race 4 nites a week .im not sure but if u sign up there to race, they have a download of the papy 2003

[Ricky Sauce]

Originally posted by poot..(poc):

Originally posted by lnorthon8:

Just raced 200 laps at Dover (track made by revamped reloaded) in nr2003. I have the Bullring Gen6 mod including ALL CURRENT SPRINT CUP DRIVERS AND PAINT SCHEMES. I also use NRatings for the AI and used the last 5 year average for each driver. The racing was absolutely AWESOME!!!!!! I seriously doubt there will ever be another NASCAR Racing game that can come close to nr2003 in the way of modding and the quality of the racing. I don't care that it still uses the point system from 2003, it is still far far better than anything that's been on the market since. There is still a very active, very large community out there that still supports it. Not bad for an 11 year old PC game

where can I buy nr2003 and will my g27work with it?

You'll be spending anwhere from 80 to 100 dollars on it at the moment. When I was looking at buying it, copies were going for 150-200. Seems like now is a good time to get one from amazon or ebay if you want to get it.

[MrNormsHGW]

Originally posted by The Chocolate Guy:

Originally posted by lnorthon8:

well good for you, controls were just to confusing

don't take this the wrong way but, if turning left is too confusing, your playing the wrong games.

[MrNormsHGW]

Originally posted by lnorthon8:

...As for your wheel...I don't know, it should. I use a Logitech MOMO so I'm not sure about the g27....sorry.

My G27 works great in N2K3, if it don't for others and the wheel is not broke, then something else must be.

[RevCain]

Or just play on the iRacing network. They purchased the N2003 game engine and are still using it today (though it has been updated). The subscription is EXPENSIVE, but I have not had to pay a dime. I paint cars on Photoshop and sell them in te showroom. Has paid ALL of my iracing expenses.

Once you play iRacing, you will know where the bar has been set for ALL other racing SIMULATION games. Not just Nascar.

[TireSpin]

Papy NR2003 is the best racing sim out there by a long shot bar none. I can't even imagine how good it would have gotten if Papy was still in the game. The way these pro's paint the cars, the way the AI is, the track details is still just amazing. Every paint scheme that the real boys are racing is avaiable before the end of the following week. And almost all of them are free. Every Nascar Sim produced since that game is a joke. The reason Iracing is so good is because that is where most of the Papy developers went when Papy closed the door. I think there is one dev involved in this series that is from the original Papy team? Very simple, replicate that game with todays tech and rules and you would have a real winner. Re-inventing the wheel with every Nascar license passed from one compnay to the next has not worked in 11 years thus far.

[The_Grunt]

Originally posted by TireSpin:

Papy NR2003 is the best racing sim out there by a long shot bar none. I can't even imagine how good it would have gotten if Papy was still in the game. The way these pro's paint the cars, the way the AI is, the track details is still just amazing. Every paint scheme that the real boys are racing is avaiable before the end of the following week. And almost all of them are free. Every Nascar Sim produced since that game is a joke. The reason Iracing is so good is because that is where most of the Papy developers went when Papy closed the door. I think there is one dev involved in this series that is from the original Papy team? Very simple, replicate that game with todays tech and rules and you would have a real winner. Re-inventing the wheel with every Nascar license passed from one compnay to the next has not worked in 11 years thus far.

This. For single player Nascar experience nr2003 is a winner and most likely will be for years to come unless something unexpected happens. For multiplayer iRacing is probably a way to go, although it can be quite costly. NR2003 leagues are still running, so multiplayer is far from dead.

With all the mods NR2003 is still very good looking game and community offers constant paint updates and larger mods as Gen 6 cars, sound and updated tracks with amazing detail. More importantly, racing is really fun without terrible frustration caused by incompetent AI. It has of course it flaws and while AI is still very good, it can produce some oddities here and there. Many track developers from the community produce much better AI than the original game by tweaking the different track and AI configs, but they can't fix all anomalies that are "built in" the engine. Even that said, AI is far superior to NRTG13 that I have: opponents react to you and other AI cars realistically and also give you a good challenge.

All in all, NR2003 was far ahead of its time and every racing fan should check it out even if Nascar isn't your "thing". It is a timeless classic which still continues to thrive after all these years. There are very few games, especially in racing genre, that have continued player and modding base after around 11 years after the release. That really tells something about the quality of this Papyrus masterpiece.

[Apollo]

Originally posted by The_Grunt:

Originally posted by TireSpin:

Papy NR2003 is the best racing sim out there by a long shot bar none. I can't even imagine how good it would have gotten if Papy was still in the game. The way these pro's paint the cars, the way the AI is, the track details is still just amazing. Every paint scheme that the real boys are racing is avaiable before the end of the following week. And almost all of them are free. Every Nascar Sim produced since that game is a joke. The reason Iracing is so good is because that is where most of the Papy developers went when Papy closed the door. I think there is one dev involved in this series that is from the original Papy team? Very simple, replicate that game with todays tech and rules and you would have a real winner. Re-inventing the wheel with every Nascar license passed from one compnay to the next has not worked in 11 years thus far.

This. For single player Nascar experience nr2003 is a winner and most likely will be for years to come unless something unexpected happens. For multiplayer iRacing is probably a way to go, although it can be quite costly. NR2003 leagues are still running, so multiplayer is far from dead.

With all the mods NR2003 is still very good looking game and community offers constant paint updates and larger mods as Gen 6 cars, sound and updated tracks with amazing detail. More importantly, racing is really fun without terrible frustration caused by incompetent AI. It has of course it flaws and while AI is still very good, it can produce some oddities here and there. Many track developers from the community produce much better AI than the original game by tweaking the different track and AI configs, but they can't fix all anomalies that are "built in" the engine. Even that said, AI is far superior to NRTG13 that I have: opponents react to you and other AI cars realistically and also give you a good challenge.

All in all, NR2003 was far ahead of its time and every racing fan should check it out even if Nascar isn't your "thing". It is a timeless classic which still continues to thrive after all these years. There are very few games, especially in racing genre, that have continued player and modding base after around 11 years after the release. That really tells something about the quality of this Papyrus masterpiece.

Absolutely Agree. I'm sticking around to see what changes, (if any) there are once the patch for this game comes out. To be honest, after running nr2003 since it was released, I'm not holding my breath. I know it seems a bit unfair, but as a life long racing fan it appears the bar was set 11 years ago and everything released since then has yet to come close. I thought by now, with all the advacements in technology, that research and development, car telemetry for AI, etc..would have been more accurate to the real world giving the player a feel for how intense stock car racing really is. I know this is a "game" and not meant to be a "simulator".
My expectations are way too high.