Previously Exclusive Content

[megageek2013]

So I here the ultimate edition will have some minor exclusive content like classic risky and a blue outfit for Shantae, but will the ultimate edition be the only way to get those, I already payed for the game and DLC I didn't want to buy the whole game again for just a few ascetic changes but I'd definitely buy them for a dollar or two though.

So any chance we'll get a chance to just buy the previously exclusive stuff here on steam or are we stuck getting the ultimate edition for that because that hardly seems fair.

[Miraglyth]

I am trying to ask WayForward about this as well - I have real concerns about this ultimate edition and to sum it up, it seems completely meaningless.

The Kickstarter-exclusive DLC is the same as avaiable-to-all DLC and was given to backers the same way. The only difference is it was never put on the store fronts. If they did this the game would be feature-complete for all without needing any kind of 'ultimate edition'.

The main purpose seems to be making a feature-complete physical release. I see no reason why they can't just open the existing backer-only DLCs digitally and make the physical release contain all DLCs.

By doing it the way they have done, anyone who has supported the game without being a Kickstarter backer is being punished, because now to get everything they have to buy the entire game again at full price. Meaning the more they have supported the game by buying what are frankly overpriced DLCs, the more they will have lost before being allowed to have a complete game.

It is exceptionally unfair.

[megageek2013]

glad I am not alone on this, although from the other side now that I think about it
I can see how some backers may feel a bit annoyed considerign how much they had to pledge to get those rewards and then everyone else could just get it for a few dollars, then again all of them got all the DLC and the actual game for free.

All in all I am fine with the ultimate editon existing for the Swich relese it is a great deal for anyone who hasn't picked it up yet or just wants the whole thing on Switch too, but not releasing the extras for a few bucks on steam is honestly missing out on sales for Wayfoward really.

[Miraglyth]

If anything as a backer I'm annoyed that most of the exclusives came after we would care. Both the Shantae blue costume and the Risky palette swap and drifter blade came out LONG after their modes were first available, so to see the changes we'd need to play through the game yet again.

Which would be fine but between normal mode, hero mode, hardcore mode, Risky mode, Friends mode, Office mode, Beach mode and Ninja mode - not to mention playing most if not all of those twice if you want the achievements - who wants to play through essentially the same game again?

WayForward asked a long time ago if backers would be happy for exclusives to merely become timed exclusives and I was outspoken in advocating that because I just don't like locking content away from future buyers who might end up spending more than backers. But I didn't vote for making a totally separate game SKU to charge non-backers twice if they want everything.

[megageek2013]

Yeah, all I ask is like one or two bucks DLC to add the costumes and extra mission from Hyper Light Drifter, I mean I feel that it could be free but a dollar seems fair enough since backers put in who knows how much, Also the TInkerbat tranformation I guess, not a big fan of tinkerbats and I would rather have like a powerful mystical creatrue or something for a catch all ability but point is I hate the idea of content that is simply walled off for what appears to be arbitrary reasons

[Patitasmon]

Actually the Ultimate Edition is comming to all platforms for what I saw on the trailer just now here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCqFPPDzCzw

At the end of the trailer it mentions steam, so I guess we will get it as a DLC (I hope).

[megageek2013]

Originally posted by Patitasmon:

Actually the Ultimate Edition is comming to all platforms for what I saw on the trailer just now here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCqFPPDzCzw

At the end of the trailer it mentions steam, so I guess we will get it as a DLC (I hope).

Yeah I hope that if you already bought the game and DLC the extra stuff can be an "upgrade"
not fair to have to buy the whole game again for that, and I won't but if there is a small DLC pack for it I will definately pay for that

[Patitasmon]

Originally posted by megageek2013:

Yeah I hope that if you already bought the game and DLC the extra stuff can be an "upgrade"not fair to have to buy the whole game again for that, and I won't but if there is a small DLC pack for it I will definately pay for that

Yep. I agree with you there. On my game the menus already show the costume pack new modes (Ninja, Officer and Beach ones), but of course I can't buy the pack yet, which means it won't be long till they release it.

[Patitasmon]

Man, this doesn't looks very promising:

https://twitter.com/WayForward/status/980898122556612608

Apparently the ultimate version has a different gaming sku, so not even your progress from the regular version gets transfered. In short is like buying the game again.

The regular version only will get the costume pack modes but no previously unreleased content :(

[Vallie]

I want to know if they'll physically release the Ultimate edition on PS4 in the US.

[Vallie]

I backed this well above the mark, and I fully endorse the exclusives being available to everyone.
As I want all the goods on more than just one console anyway, so everyone wins.

[Patitasmon]

Originally posted by Valfire:

I backed this well above the mark, and I fully endorse the exclusives being available to everyone.
As I want all the goods on more than just one console anyway, so everyone wins.

Yeah. What I find unfair is that if we want the previously unreleased content (Tinkerbat dance, Blue Shante and Classic Risky Boots) we have to buy the ultimate version fully when it gets released. Not to mention that our progress from the regular version won't be transferred so it is play it since the beginning all over again :(

Why not release it as an expansion for Steam? I mean we are getting less things on steam since there's no PC physical version.

[Vallie]

It must really be one hell of an overhaul for them not to allow us to transfer our data.
I daresay across all the PC and PS4, I have played through the game at least ten times.
Guess it'll be 20 when they release the Ultimate Editions on PC and PS4 US (hopefully)

[KulaRose]

Well, my guess is that the save game format itself has not likely changed, which means that manually moving your save0.sav should work. However, this not being an in-game process makes it much less userfriendly, and doesn't help console players at all.

[Miraglyth]

Originally posted by megageek2013:

Yeah I hope that if you already bought the game and DLC the extra stuff can be an "upgrade"
not fair to have to buy the whole game again for that, and I won't but if there is a small DLC pack for it I will definately pay for that

I don't want to dash your hopes but I believe WayForward have already ruled that out. In a comment reply to their Kickstarter update announcing the Ultimate Edition, they have made two statements on the matter:

Originally posted by WayForward, January 29:

Currently we have only announced [the previously backer-exclusive content] for Ultimate Edition. We do not plan on offering it for single DLC.

Originally posted by WayForward, February 19:

The backer exclusive DLC and the blue swimsuit will ONLY be available in the Ultimate Edition.

This is why I am so vocal about the plan now. I don't see any fair reason for them to deny post-Kickstarter buyers the ability to just get the remaining DLCs without buying everything they've already bought separately a second time.

[megageek2013]

Originally posted by Miraglyth:

I don't want to dash your hopes but I believe WayForward have already ruled that out. In a comment reply to their Kickstarter update announcing the Ultimate Edition, they have made two statements on the matter:

This is why I am so vocal about the plan now. I don't see any fair reason for them to deny post-Kickstarter buyers the ability to just get the remaining DLCs without buying everything they've already bought separately a second time.

exactly thought it is a little disheatening that the WayFoward represnetative on here has not even chimed in in the least