How did Abby know a guy named Joel killed her dad??

[JG99]

That seems to be a plot hole unless I missed something from the first game. She even knows his last name "Joel Miller".

[J4MESOX4D]

Originally posted by JG99:

Originally posted by Tommy Wiseau:

This is a good point.

Since naught dog made it cannon that Joel killed all the fireflys and these few people were not in the hospital during the attack how would they know who joel is let alone his last name. His last name is never even said, they just knew him as the smuggler if i remember right. But it dosnt matter at this point as we all know naught dog wrote a terrible story and were more concerned with making a political statement about gay relationships, strong independant women, and men being evil.

Yeah I got to the scene where Ellie and Dina are dancing and kissing and the white man attacks them for being lesbian. What the hell was the point of putting that into a video game?? And why is it only a select group of people who are always portrayed as victims as if nobody else is ever victimized? Look at all the people who own Teslas right now, for some bizarre reason people are attacking their cars. The owners of these cars have absolutely nothing to do with Elon Musk yet they are relentlessly victimized day and night and no ONE protests it.

That was Druckmann's party-piece but it all fell flat with a minimal payoff - probably because there was 25 hours between the original scene and the conclusion which ultimately meant nothing after what is endured and occurs during the game.

[PunxsutawneyPhil]

Originally posted by JG99:

That seems to be a plot hole unless I missed something from the first game. She even knows his last name "Joel Miller".

Not explicitly said but Firefly Boss Marlene knew Joel’s name. Marlene was present in communications with Abby’s father. And Abby was present in the hospital too. It’s not explicitly said but they would have talked about a guy named Joel’s brings Ellie

[Molesworth.Houghton]

Crime Scene Unit took fingerprints. Joel wasn't clever enough to use latex gloves.

[Mitcheeta]

Originally posted by JG99:

Yeah I got to the scene where Ellie and Dina are dancing and kissing and the white man attacks them for being lesbian. What the hell was the point of putting that into a video game??

And Joel a white man defended them lol the point was for Joel to defend Ellie again, and in real life you absolutely would see a dude like Seth act like that.

And why is it only a select group of people who are always portrayed as victims as if nobody else is ever victimized? Look at all the people who own Teslas right now, for some bizarre reason people are attacking their cars. The owners of these cars have absolutely nothing to do with Elon Musk yet they are relentlessly victimized day and night and no ONE protests it.

Yeah that scene of Ellie keying teslas and saying “You fascists deserve this!” was crazy