The Last of Us™ Part II Remastered

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Does anyone else kind of like Abby?
I'm not someone who's into ''woke'' games and characters, but honestly, this is a good game. Almost everyone seems to hate Abby, but no matter how you feel about her, it’s hard not to feel some sympathy. I was upset she killed Joel too, but it makes sense when you realize he was the one who killed her dad. I also liked her parts of the game because it shows a different perspective. She kind of becomes this anti-hero, and the dynamic between her and Owen keeps things fresh, especially with the flashbacks.
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IT'S MORBIN' TIME 2024 年 12 月 23 日 上午 3:03 
引用自 PONPOKO
引用自 Heisenberg

So again - Abby, in fact, didn't even know how Joel looked like

There's a very high likelihood

So just speculations, nothing confirmed.



引用自 PONPOKO
引用自 Heisenberg

So again - Abby, in fact, didn't even know how Joel looked like
Look at Abby's face after Tommy gives their names here. She knows.

Yes it's called "bad writing". In reality she would've been confused as ♥♥♥♥ and most likely asked if Joel is familiar with Fireflies, so that she would at least make sure that the man she's about to kill is THE man.
PONPOKO 2024 年 12 月 23 日 上午 5:52 
引用自 IT'S MORBIN' TIME
引用自 PONPOKO

There's a very high likelihood

So just speculations, nothing confirmed.

Yeah, just like I speculate most people are able to grasp basic storytelling concepts without arduous and unnecessary exposition.

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Yes it's called "bad writing". In reality she would've been confused as ♥♥♥♥ and most likely asked if Joel is familiar with Fireflies, so that she would at least make sure that the man she's about to kill is THE man.

She literally confirms it's him before killing him though? She says "Joel Miller" right to his face, confirming it's him. He tells her to to give her rehearsed speech and get this over with. Which she does. What more do you want?
最后由 PONPOKO 编辑于; 2024 年 12 月 23 日 上午 6:08
IT'S MORBIN' TIME 2024 年 12 月 23 日 上午 7:20 
引用自 PONPOKO
引用自 IT'S MORBIN' TIME

So just speculations, nothing confirmed.

Yeah, just like I speculate most people are able to grasp basic storytelling concepts without arduous and unnecessary exposition.

引用自 IT'S MORBIN' TIME
Yes it's called "bad writing". In reality she would've been confused as ♥♥♥♥ and most likely asked if Joel is familiar with Fireflies, so that she would at least make sure that the man she's about to kill is THE man.

She literally confirms it's him before killing him though? She says "Joel Miller" right to his face, confirming it's him. He tells her to to give her rehearsed speech and get this over with. Which she does. What more do you want?

I wanna know how she knew that it was THE Joel
PONPOKO 2024 年 12 月 23 日 上午 7:28 
引用自 IT'S MORBIN' TIME
引用自 PONPOKO

Yeah, just like I speculate most people are able to grasp basic storytelling concepts without arduous and unnecessary exposition.



She literally confirms it's him before killing him though? She says "Joel Miller" right to his face, confirming it's him. He tells her to to give her rehearsed speech and get this over with. Which she does. What more do you want?

I wanna know how she knew that it was THE Joel

Tommy and Joel tell her their names, twice. She kneels in front of Joel and says his full name (Joel Miller) to his face, to which he responds: "Why don't you say whatever speech you got rehearsed, and get this over with." This line right here, that's where she knew it was THE Joel. Mystery solved.
IT'S MORBIN' TIME 2024 年 12 月 23 日 上午 7:34 
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引用自 IT'S MORBIN' TIME

I wanna know how she knew that it was THE Joel

Tommy and Joel tell her their names, twice. She kneels in front of Joel and says his full name (Joel Miller) to his face, to which he responds: "Why don't you say whatever speech you got rehearsed, and get this over with." This line right here, that's where she knew it was THE Joel. Mystery solved.

So they tell her their names and she instantly knows that Joel is Joel Miller?
PONPOKO 2024 年 12 月 23 日 上午 7:48 
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Tommy and Joel tell her their names, twice. She kneels in front of Joel and says his full name (Joel Miller) to his face, to which he responds: "Why don't you say whatever speech you got rehearsed, and get this over with." This line right here, that's where she knew it was THE Joel. Mystery solved.

So they tell her their names and she instantly knows that Joel is Joel Miller?

Joel not denying it in that moment essentially confirmed it for her. I don't think it needed any confirmation because it was already obvious, but for you specifically I am pointing out the moment there could be no doubt she knew it was THE Joel.
IT'S MORBIN' TIME 2024 年 12 月 23 日 上午 8:03 
引用自 PONPOKO
引用自 IT'S MORBIN' TIME

So they tell her their names and she instantly knows that Joel is Joel Miller?

I don't think it needed any confirmation because it was already obvious

If you skip the logical explanation then sure it's obvious.
Emig5m 2024 年 12 月 26 日 下午 7:16 
I'd hit it lol...
=Palynzer= 2024 年 12 月 26 日 下午 8:06 
No, she hulk:ACODC_Kick:
引用自 =Palynzer=
No, she hulk:ACODC_Kick:

She cute
最后由 𝔰𝔦𝔤𝔦𝔫𝔞 ✝ 编辑于; 1 月 6 日 下午 9:26
Enchanted 1 月 6 日 下午 10:23 
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Almost beats a pregnant lady to death. She really needed someone to intervene in order to not kill an already downed pregnant woman...
Ellie straight up murdered her Pregnant friend, she didn't just 'beat her up'.
Abby atleast showed some restraint in not stooping to Ellie's level.
A win for her in my book.

Ellie had no idea Abby's friend was pregnant and clearly showed remorse when she finds out. So Abby's vindictive "Good" is totally unwarranted since she was going to kill Dina knowing she's pregnant. She could have just killed Ellie then and there. It would have made more sense for her character since we know Abby doesn't shy away from revenge when it comes to people close to her. So why does Ellie continue to get spared by Abby? Where was her "restraint" when she was beating a man to death with a golf club after he just saved her life?
Stoibs 1 月 6 日 下午 10:36 
^ That's why her character growth and back-half of the game is one of my favourites.

I'm not exactly that interested in retreading old ground or re-earthing a conversation from almost 3 weeks ago though honestly. The beauty of this series is how nuanced it can get, and you'll either discover that you love it or continue to hate it.
PONPOKO 1 月 7 日 上午 12:45 
引用自 Enchanted
引用自 Stoibs
Ellie straight up murdered her Pregnant friend, she didn't just 'beat her up'.
Abby atleast showed some restraint in not stooping to Ellie's level.
A win for her in my book.

Ellie had no idea Abby's friend was pregnant and clearly showed remorse when she finds out. So Abby's vindictive "Good" is totally unwarranted since she was going to kill Dina knowing she's pregnant. She could have just killed Ellie then and there. It would have made more sense for her character since we know Abby doesn't shy away from revenge when it comes to people close to her. So why does Ellie continue to get spared by Abby? Where was her "restraint" when she was beating a man to death with a golf club after he just saved her life?

Lev was her restraint in that moment and a pivotal character in contributing to Abby's whole character arc.
最后由 PONPOKO 编辑于; 1 月 7 日 上午 12:47
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