would chuds hate the game if abby was a male character?

[Coldflame]

consider:

-masc muscular self insert lead to replace joel
-male abby would be a traditional masculine figure standing up to ellie's woke DEI crew, WLF is fashy compared to the more communist-coded jackson and chuds could get behind it
-without the humiliation of it being a woman who kills joel itd be easier to spin as him just being the weaker soy male

[Coldflame]

obviously owen would need to be female because chuds couldn't handle a gay male lead

[Glue]

Are you so fragile that the thought of a strong woman scares you into blind hatred? Real men hate Abby because she is poorly written, not because she is big and strong.

[Coldflame]

Glue původně napsal:

Are you so fragile that the thought of a strong woman scares you into blind hatred? Real men hate Abby because she is poorly written, not because she is big and strong.

it is certainly interesting that people successfully deduced she was poorly written before the game released based on a singled leaked cutscene and her design

smarter and more perceptive gamers than i, it would seem

[Affronter]

Chuds

Cannibalistic Humanoid Underground Dwellers?

[Grim(CW)]

Doubt it. They'd first hate him for the joel thing, but likely blow their load over him just because he wouldn't be ellie.

[Glue]

Coldflame původně napsal:

it is certainly interesting that people successfully deduced she was poorly written before the game released based on a singled leaked cutscene and her design

smarter and more perceptive gamers than i, it would seem

Didn't the entire script, or at least a large chunk of it, leak just before launch?
Either way, I shrugged it off as people who cry over the concept of pronouns and same sex marriage, not expecting the game to be as bad as they say.
Unfortunately, I ended up really hating the writing and story. I'm hoping that replaying it with lower expectations lets me get a better perspective.

Also. My dumbass just realized this was a rhetorical question, and not you saying the game would be better if Abby was a guy lol

[Coldflame]

Affronter původně napsal:

Chuds

Cannibalistic Humanoid Underground Dwellers?

Something like that

[Razin_Shah]

we already have the answer. They all love Trevor from GTA5 even after he killed Johnny Klebitz (main character of GTA4 TLaD)

[Rocker]

Abby has serious motivational issues in her Seraphite arc. She literally does a Herculean feat, going into the epicenter of the infection in the hospital. Just because she's kind and does good things for the kids. So changing the gender or the character's appearance wouldn't have improved the situation.

[LeftIsBest-James]

ngl; idgaf about abby,.. i see her as OP as Ellie.
.. but rocker is making abby sound ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ based.

anyone can have plot-armor and super powers (arpg fans appreciate cheatcode powers)
... but the "♥♥♥♥-you" determination is what I rate most (guts/bezerk)
... you don't need muscles or to be male to qualify, just the ability to snarl thru broken teeth.

[Coldflame]

Rocker původně napsal:

Abby has serious motivational issues in her Seraphite arc. She literally does a Herculean feat, going into the epicenter of the infection in the hospital. Just because she's kind and does good things for the kids. So changing the gender or the character's appearance wouldn't have improved the situation.

i'm confused about the problem here? abby is written as a heroic character

[Rocker]

Coldflame původně napsal:

Rocker původně napsal:

Abby has serious motivational issues in her Seraphite arc. She literally does a Herculean feat, going into the epicenter of the infection in the hospital. Just because she's kind and does good things for the kids. So changing the gender or the character's appearance wouldn't have improved the situation.

i'm confused about the problem here? abby is written as a heroic character

Such heroic characters have no place in the harsh world of tlou.
Just compare how consistently Joel was motivated to deliver Ellie to her goal. It doesn't compare to an action motivated only by "conscience tormenting".
This is the difference between the well-written, down-to-earth first part and the sequel. The sequel is a good gameplay game with a bad narrative. A barrel of honey with a fly in the ointment.

[bokke_commando]

Razin_Shah původně napsal:

we already have the answer. They all love Trevor from GTA5 even after he killed Johnny Klebitz (main character of GTA4 TLaD)

Johnny was the lead in a forgettable dlc. Hardly the same thing here.

[Coldflame]

Rocker původně napsal:

Coldflame původně napsal:

i'm confused about the problem here? abby is written as a heroic character

Such heroic characters have no place in the harsh world of tlou.
Just compare how consistently Joel was motivated to deliver Ellie to her goal. It doesn't compare to an action motivated only by "conscience tormenting".
This is the difference between the well-written, down-to-earth first part and the sequel. The sequel is a good gameplay game with a bad narrative. A barrel of honey with a fly in the ointment.

joel was motivated by a guilty conscience and the fear of losing another child to perform herculean deeds

abby was motivated by a guilty conscience, obligation to reciprocate yara saving her life, and later protecting surrogate family to perform herculean deeds

they are very similar characters, no?

[Imhigh]

Muh heroic marvel death Wait until you incels discover Books