is current character good?

[Millenia]

Ive saved up like 21k luxite and 40 tickets. Been wanting to blast but Im not sure if I should or rather when I should...
halp

[TigerNightmare]

Play the character trial, that made me want her.

[Eternal Memory]

"Saffiyah + auguste better than her as boss killers
Homa + Edda better than her as debuffer
What she does, others do better, the only thing she does best is her segs design which is 1 of the top in game"

is a take Ive heard

plus Homa should be coming out later so might be better to save for her but up to you in the end of the day

[Derpykat5]

I gave it a few pulls since I figured having a good magic DPR character was an important enough factor for all those tower stages where enemies have an 80% phys resist. I wouldn't have wanted to go all the way to pity to get her though.

[Meowish]

Save up for Homa, you won't regret it. She belongs to the Drifter and Aggression faction, if you run her in those, she can be a dps and a healer and a debuffer... lots of use in a lot of tactical situation...
https://swordofconvallaria.co/characters/homa/

If you don't run any of those faction, and runs a Vlder faction like i do here, Kia (Kiya?) is coming soon. One of the best support character for Vlder faction, making a lot of boss fight a piece of cheese. Like Momo, she has quite the "crazy" characteristic and story background as well... The "Reverse Healing" debuff is also deadly for both PvE and PvP. Characters that auto self-heal, enemies with strong healers, or stages with enemy healing effects will make them go self-destruct instead... (Similar to one of my fav character Listell in Langrisser)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTmti7l47L8

[Eternal Memory]

if it follows the release order of other servers; Kiya is Apr. 11th kind of "soon"

[Meowish]

Originally posted by Eternal Memory:

if it follows the release order of other servers; Kiya is Apr. 11th kind of "soon"

Though for those at end game, saving up right now might not made it to the pity at her release with that petty monthly rewards... but for those who planned earlier she should be just the right timing.

[HolyGrail]

Kiya looks cute as hell... if I haven't dropped the game by her release I'll try get her

[Michael]

the most confusing thing about the legendary is that Tier 0 1.5 2 3 is very subjective, but it's also easier to just google a bit and select a few Tier 0 to begin with. That's exactly what I've done. 1 Tank, 1 Healer, and 3 DPS.

[anotherGamer]

Originally posted by Michael:

the most confusing thing about the legendary is that Tier 0 1.5 2 3 is very subjective, but it's also easier to just google a bit and select a few Tier 0 to begin with. That's exactly what I've done. 1 Tank, 1 Healer, and 3 DPS.

it is subjective but look at the current event everyone has a gloria in there (korea japan global) you will have a hard time finding anyone in the top 100 who doesn't have one

and as someone who has her i can say the difference between her and T2 is like night and day
Tier 3 is completely useless if not worse than the basic rare units

as for T0.5 and T1 those are more situational and depending on what you wanna do basically Tier 0

[Meowish]

Most of those are based on the characters that famous streamers are using in their videos. And people wanted to get the same units due to they wanted to follow the same solution in those videos. For a TRPG veteran, any units can be useful if you know how to use them.

There will be a lot of cases where certain characters are actually stronger than most people thought when they are placed in the correct hand. Of course, there's the generic ones that's easy to understand and use, and there's the specific ones that require a certain knowledge and wit to use. But when done right, they are often more powerful than those generic "T0", though some are situation based. Then again, a good tactician change their tactic based on situation anyway.

Well, for f2p players, that's something they can't afford at the start of the game, and will require a few years of game play to reach that freedom.

[anotherGamer]

Originally posted by Meowish:

There will be a lot of cases where certain characters are actually stronger than most people thought when they are placed in the correct hand. Of course, there's the generic ones that's easy to understand and use, and there's the specific ones that require a certain knowledge and wit to use. But when done right, they are often more powerful than those generic "T0", though some are situation based.

like i said in the right situation T1 can be like T0

t2 are also generally good(the ones in the higher tiers can do there job better)

but there is nothing you can do no amount of knowledge or wit or call it whatever you want to turn a T3 into a T0
generally i disagree with every Tier list so far except for the T3 they really are that bad

i just watched a video where someone claimed he turned guzman into a t0
a lot of theorycrafting and no proof
then guzman (the very first legendary i got) doesn't just suck he is the worst SR in the whole Game prove me wrong -.-

[Meowish]

Originally posted by anotherGamer:

i just watched a video where someone claimed he turned guzman into a t0
a lot of theorycrafting and no proof
then guzman (the very first legendary i got) doesn't just suck he is the worst SR in the whole Game prove me wrong -.-

Utility characters have their own way of contributing to a fight. For Guzman, it's the fishing skill he has that can be extremely useful when facing enemies stronger than your team. Well, there are N/R rated characters that can do that as well. Just because we don't know how to use a char doesn't mean they are bad, for me, i don't use Gloria at all even when i do have her, since i find her troublesome to use in compare to the team i am using, but that doesn't mean she's bad right? Plus, I don't use healer nor tank most of the time due to no enemies can get close enough to hurt my characters with multi-layer alert tactic i am using right now... especially with Faycal in the team... someone might tell you Faycal is the worst free character among the starting 3, but to me, he's the best when paired with a strong alert team. So just because someone doesn't know how to use him and call him "the worst" doesn't mean he's the worst for you as well, you might find a way to make him shine better than a lot of the other characters.

And there are players who solely uses only SR and R characters as well, as long as they know what the advantages and disadvantages of the characters, and what makes them tick, and how the gears click on with one another as a team, it's still possible to win end game stages with them. Though using the high-end SSR might let us clear the stages faster and score a better score in challenges, but that doesn't mean the SR or R can't clear them. There are a lot of characters that i don't use, but i won't say they are bad, I'll just admit that I am not good enough to make use of them currently and might find them useful when i am better prepared.

If you need a full team of all rounders to brute-force you way through a stage, you are far from being a good tactician. Just remember that Characters that seemed weak might be the key to win hard stages.

And for games with skill tree grind like this, most advises that goes around the internet doesn't really fit and is only subjective, due to some may be focusing on a different category and that makes those specific characters stronger in their roster. It takes a full year to years to complete the talent tree, so those who didn't even reach end game and tried to give advises like, X character is better than X isn't going to hold until someone with a fully completed tree do the comparison. For me, i have nearly maxed watcher and destroyer here, so of course my breakers and other class is going to be weaker and less useful in compare. And for the same reason, i've shifted from heal/tank to a full ranged team due to those characters started to work better than the others.

[anotherGamer]

man you sure love to write a lot
also i didn't say you can't use him (you also can ride a bike with just one tire i mean you shouldn't but you can)

all the theory crafting and lofty ideas are worthless when it comes to putting them into practice (great i can pull one unit over that sure makes him a T0 NOT)

as for the content creators they have access to special accounts with complete skill trees and all the equipment/characters maxed out (not that it matters)

Originally posted by Meowish:

Though using the high-end SSR might let us clear the stages faster and score a better score in challenges, but that doesn't mean the SR or R can't clear them.

of course you can clear the hole game with common units
but unfortunately it does matter how fast you can clear a stage
only the top 10% get rewarded with special equipment (not in this event but when the real thing comes out)

and i can tell you right now that neither Guzman nor any other T3 unit gonna be in there

[Meowish]

Originally posted by anotherGamer:

all the theory crafting and lofty ideas are worthless when it comes to putting them into practice (great i can pull one unit over that sure makes him a T0 NOT)

The fishing tactic is important in a lot of TRPG where you need to fight higher rank/level enemies. You just pull an enemy near you and that allow your other team mates to finish that enemy off without the risk of getting hit by the rest of the enemies. It is also useful to break the formation of your enemies, either nullify their tank or healer.

As for the theory crafting part, you will see that a lot in online games, due to a lot of players never really reached end game and tried to give advises based on what they had at the time they post their comment. Especially free to play players will require a few months to max the stars of one character, and with other higher priority and preferred characters being around, i doubt anyone is keen enough to spend their resources on characters being said to be "bad" by the streamers. So all they can do is "theory craft" what "may become" of a character if they do this or do that. Example, Guzman has retaliate, so he can be paired with the invincible command to make him super useful as a fly trap, but is he more useful than Iggy that retaliate before an enemy attack? well, no. And about his stats, he's a physical character in the destroyer tree, where a lot of players focused on pumping up the magical attack as priority, and as most mages goes, they are long ranged and doesn't need much defense, so that part of the tree didn't get much love from the players. So most of the time, he isn't getting what he needs to be strong. But if you meet someone in pvp with a Guzman that's fully pumped up, you will get annoyed to hell by him. His skill set not only gives him multiple AoEs that attacks up to 100% and more (most AoE in game are on 70~80% damage), they also reduce a lot of damages he takes, both magical and physical... When geared right, he heals himself up on retaliate and can easily full heal with his AoE, and he comes with hp drain skill as well as a regenerate skill that heals 30% hp for 3 turns... making him really hard to kill... plus, he gets access to an Axe that ignores 40% of enemies' def... The only "bad" thing i hate about him is the loud voice over, which can be annoying whenever we have him in the team... and the reason i give him a pass. I am getting ready for Kia/Kiya here myself so i did pump up the destroyer physical and def part, so Guzman is getting better and better as that tree gets completed. But that annoying voice alone is enough for me to dump him on the cold bench.

Originally posted by anotherGamer:

as for the content creators they have access to special accounts with complete skill trees and all the equipment/characters maxed out (not that it matters)

They are given 51k luxites as a starter. Not a maxed out account. Stingy as ever.

[anotherGamer]

ugh another wall of text

Originally posted by Meowish:

They are given 51k luxites as a starter. Not a maxed out account. Stingy as ever.

no no that's only for their personal accounts they also get access to test servers with everything and upcoming events (or maybe they ended that creator program a lot of them broke the rules i don't know i don't keep track)

also i don't know what you are arguing about did i ask for advice how to use him?

my whole point is that he's never gonna be a T0
and i want proof not lipservice that he's anything else than a bank warmer

go ahead make it in the top 100 in the current event with him or any other T3