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Is it possible to fight Azathoth?
Can you fight Azathoth in this game? I'm curious.
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Wazat1 12. Juli 2014 um 23:27 
Spoilers below:

No. You never even encounter the old ones. This game takes the power of the old ones much more seriously than games like Quake, where you actually fight them. Instead, they are presented more as a looming threat that, at best, you can hide the Earth from or seal away for a time. For an explanation of why a game would do this, I really like this video from the Extra Credits team:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DyRxlvM9VM
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Ok, thats nice to know (I also seen the video beforehand, but it was nice to see again)
I can understand why, but I don't know. Something inside me just wants to see me fight Azathoth even though I would be go insane the moment I look at him.

Also, what do you mean by hiding the Earth or Sealing them? I never heard anything about that.

But really? You just enounter the normal variety of Lovecraft creatures? Doesn't that get boring?
Wazat1 12. Juli 2014 um 23:56 
I loves me some Quake-styled games where you go head-to-head with the Eldritch gods and show them up. :D But I also love games like the pen&paper Call of Cthulhu where you are severely outgunned and the elder gods are simply too horrible to comprehend or witness, let alone defeat. Both styles of gameplay offer great experiences. I just played (and lost) a game of Arkham Horror, which is kind of a middle ground between the two (you could possibly seal off or defeat the elder god, but you'll probably fail horribly).

What I meant by hiding the earth or sealing them is, in games where you don't fight the elder gods (but are actually able to do something about them) usually give you the goal of delaying the Earth's destruction. You seal away the god for a time, or prolong its slumber, or close the portals to hide the Earth from the attention and inexorable tide of this terrifying evil, even if the reprieve is only very temporary. You can never defeat or kill the eldritch god, and you might not even be able to fight it: at best, you might delay it. In this game (similar to games like Arkham Horror), that's the goal: re-establish the wards that are supposed to keep the earth separate and buffered from the minions and power of the unspeakable ancient ones. And then hope they hold.

In terms of normal Lovecraft creatures getting boring, that's really up to you and how jaded you feel about the genre. If you've played a lot of Lovecraft-inspired games, you may be sick of the creatures an mythos by now. This game introduces a couple creatures that are not specifically lovecraftian, but it draws a lot of influence from his writings. I personally enjoyed the atmosphere of this game and I liked seeing the creatures (I don't read Lovecraft, but games like this make me want to). The creatures are not quite as devastating as Arkham Horror or Call of Cthulhu -- you can face and fight them without going barking mad in seconds -- but you're always a couple mistakes away from death. The environment and creatures can be surprisingly lethal. In that sense, it's a proper rogue-like with many Lovecraft-inspired creatures.

It's not as fully Lovecraftian as some people would like it, but really, what is? The game that finally achieves that will drive its players insane, which may affect its ESRB rating and sales. ;)
Well, I'm no stranger to the pen & paper style of Call of Cthulu and I always wondered "How many investigators have to die in a straight up fight with Cthulu?" (Trick quesiton, you can never win) Thanks for the clarification by the way

However, I have to address a problem in the video. Nothing is wrong with the idea itself but how its presented. They only concentrate on Cthulu, which isn't a big problem since his is argualby the most reconigzed creature in the mythos. They forgot to mention the other creatures of the mythos such as... (INCOMING LIST)

Hastur The Unspeakable
Nyarlathotep
Shub-Niggurath
Yog-Sothoth
or the other Old Olds

So, the title should have been call "Why Games do Lovecraftian Monsters Wrong"

Don't get me wrong, I love Cthulu as much as the next cultist... I Mean dude, but come on why not shed some love for Yig? or Ithaqua? or hell, why not even Dagon?:Rubber_Duck:

Wazat1 13. Juli 2014 um 0:15 
Cthulhu is the most commonly featured, and he's the most representative of Lovecraft's work and other works that operate under the same terms. They could have mentioned other gods, but focusing on Cthulhu allowed them to speak to a wide audience, including people like me who are not as familiar with the wide body of works the idea covers. They meant no disrespect to Dagon & friends. :D
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Wazat1:
Cthulhu is the most commonly featured, and he's the most representative of Lovecraft's work and other works that operate under the same terms. They could have mentioned other gods, but focusing on Cthulhu allowed them to speak to a wide audience, including people like me who are not as familiar with the wide body of works the idea covers. They meant no disrespect to Dagon & friends. :D

They could of at least gave them an honorably mention
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Garfeel:
Well, I'm no stranger to the pen & paper style of Call of Cthulu and I always wondered "How many investigators have to die in a straight up fight with Cthulu?" (Trick quesiton, you can never win) Thanks for the clarification by the way

However, I have to address a problem in the video. Nothing is wrong with the idea itself but how its presented. They only concentrate on Cthulu, which isn't a big problem since his is argualby the most reconigzed creature in the mythos. They forgot to mention the other creatures of the mythos such as... (INCOMING LIST)

Hastur The Unspeakable
Nyarlathotep
Shub-Niggurath
Yog-Sothoth
or the other Old Olds

So, the title should have been call "Why Games do Lovecraftian Monsters Wrong"

Don't get me wrong, I love Cthulu as much as the next cultist... I Mean dude, but come on why not shed some love for Yig? or Ithaqua? or hell, why not even Dagon?:Rubber_Duck:
You fight Dagon in Call Of Cthulhu along with Mother Hydra
Thanks I know
F.G Kid 24. Juli 2014 um 13:25 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Garfeel:
Can you fight Azathoth in this game? I'm curious.
Actually you encounter it, but you have to run from it, you can't fight it.
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