Fullscreen FPS Issue

[AdApt*]

When running the game I get periodic low FPS.
Going into the video settings, changing a setting there and then reverting it back to what it was brings FPS back to normal, then it will randomly drop again.

It doesn't matter how high or low the quality is set.
Disabling vsync and forcing it through my GPU doesn't help.

Running the game windowed fixes it completely.

When I first played the game years ago I remember I had low FPS only at the very start of a level, then it ran fine.

Nvidia RTX 4060 8GB
i5 14400F 10 cores @ 2.5GHz (4.7 max with turbo)
16GB DDR5 RAM
Windows 10

[Quest Walker]

Unsure what could be causing it if you've already messed with the settings, but what sort of numbers are you talking about for low FPS?
And something to test, as it may or may not help, is downpatching to an earlier version, if it still occurs there, then we'll have to think some more.

[AdApt*]

Originally posted by Quest Walker:

Unsure what could be causing it if you've already messed with the settings, but what sort of numbers are you talking about for low FPS?
And something to test, as it may or may not help, is downpatching to an earlier version, if it still occurs there, then we'll have to think some more.

About 30 FPS, maybe less.

How do I revert to an older version and then back to the current version? I'd purely do it to test for you so I'd want to resume playing on the current version.

[AdApt*]

Ok then....

[Quest Walker]

Originally posted by AdApt*:

Ok then....

Chill, easiest way is to go to library, right click on qbeh, properties, betas, beta participation dropdown, 1.1.3a - 1.1.3a
And to opt out of it and revert would pretty much be the same.

[AdApt*]

Originally posted by Quest Walker:

Originally posted by AdApt*:

Ok then....

Chill, easiest way is to go to library, right click on qbeh, properties, betas, beta participation dropdown, 1.1.3a - 1.1.3a
And to opt out of it and revert would pretty much be the same.

Yea sorry I thought you didn't know and were ignoring me.

So I just tested it and it runs perfect in the older version in fullscreen.
I played a whole level to be sure.

I reverted back to the current version and FPS was low straight away - I even noticed it when rotating the level-select cube.

[Quest Walker]

So, good news is you are able to play the entire main game on 1.1.3a, and you can even get the Rage Quit achievement on it!
As for 1.2.1, this won't likely fix it, as you've kind of already reinstalled it switching from beta and back, but if you right click qbeh, properties, installed files, verify integrity of game files, it could help (may also be worth keeping a backup of your save, can never trust these things).
It would also be interesting to know if you have qbeh installed on your main internal drive, or on a secondary or external drive.
Do you have multiple monitors, if so, do you run it on the main or other ones?
Do you have other possible conflicting applications running alongside it?
Do any other games suffer similarly?
What happens if you launch it from the exe directly, not through steam?
Does the low fps occur in consistent spots in the game? is it specific levels? or parts within the levels?
Does it ever revert back to normal fps on its own without changing settings?
Are you using the in-game setting to make it fullscreen or a third-party software?
Are you using anything like borderless gaming?
Do you have any launch options set? (right click qbeh, properties, launch options)

This should be a few things to start with, hopefully with a bit of mashing we can find the cause.

[AdApt*]

Originally posted by Quest Walker:

It would also be interesting to know if you have qbeh installed on your main internal drive, or on a secondary or external drive.

On my SSD.

Originally posted by Quest Walker:

Do you have multiple monitors, if so, do you run it on the main or other ones?

Just one monitor.

Originally posted by Quest Walker:

Do you have other possible conflicting applications running alongside it?

Nope.

Originally posted by Quest Walker:

Do any other games suffer similarly?

Nope.

Originally posted by Quest Walker:

What happens if you launch it from the exe directly, not through steam?

No issue - 60 FPS. Maybe related to Steam overlay?

Originally posted by Quest Walker:

Does the low fps occur in consistent spots in the game? is it specific levels? or parts within the levels?

Any level and the entire level, even the level select cube.

Originally posted by Quest Walker:

Does it ever revert back to normal fps on its own without changing settings?

No.

Originally posted by Quest Walker:

Are you using the in-game setting to make it fullscreen or a third-party software?

In-game. But fullscreen is the issue. Windowed fixes it.

Originally posted by Quest Walker:

Are you using anything like borderless gaming?

No.

Originally posted by Quest Walker:

Do you have any launch options set? (right click qbeh, properties, launch options)

No.

[Quest Walker]

Glad it works if not run through steam, helps narrow down the issue.
Could try disabling steam overlay to test, steam settings, in game, untick.
Would also be good to know, is it a laptop or desktop? and do you have a secondary graphics card?
And what does task manager say when you get this lag? what looks to be struggling or too high?

[AdApt*]

Originally posted by Quest Walker:

Glad it works if not run through steam, helps narrow down the issue.
Could try disabling steam overlay to test, steam settings, in game, untick.
Would also be good to know, is it a laptop or desktop? and do you have a secondary graphics card?
And what does task manager say when you get this lag? what looks to be struggling or too high?

Hey

Disabling Steam overlay didn't fix it.

It's definitely tied to fullscreen for some reason. I tested a bunvh of times by applying fullscreen, restarting the game and playing a level and FPS was low each time. Then I disabled fullscreen, restarted, played a level and FPS was smooth.
In both cases I restarted several times to be sure.

As for your questions, I'm on desktop and only have one graphics card.

Task manager when it ran with low FPS. Barely using anything. Screenshot below.
https://imgur.com/a/tUN0ncs

Weird thing is that after taking the screenshot above, I went back into the game and it was running at 60FPS in fullscreen. After a restart, issue was back again.

I just tested running it from the game's executable again and FPS was low in fullscreen. So I'm not sure why it was fine when I tested that yesterday.

[Quest Walker]

How odd, so it's not the steam overlay, and it still occurs from the exe itself.

Is your monitor's native refresh rate 60hz or are you limiting it?

I don't think it should be there but if it is, could try to rename or delete OculusPlugin.dll in Steam\steamapps\common\Qbeh-1\Qbeh-1_Data\Plugins, people had issues with it in the past, but it's since been removed from the releases.

Ooh, what about alt + enter? it'll make it fullscreen, but it won't tick the box in the settings, may or may not have a different outcome.

Or what about trying something like borderless gaming?

And I don't know how much you want to test, but could make a new windows user account, only dl steam, login on that, reinstall, and test.

[AdApt*]

Originally posted by Quest Walker:

How odd, so it's not the steam overlay, and it still occurs from the exe itself.

Is your monitor's native refresh rate 60hz or are you limiting it?

I don't think it should be there but if it is, could try to rename or delete OculusPlugin.dll in Steam\steamapps\common\Qbeh-1\Qbeh-1_Data\Plugins, people had issues with it in the past, but it's since been removed from the releases.

Ooh, what about alt + enter? it'll make it fullscreen, but it won't tick the box in the settings, may or may not have a different outcome.

Or what about trying something like borderless gaming?

And I don't know how much you want to test, but could make a new windows user account, only dl steam, login on that, reinstall, and test.

It's 60Hz.

That plugin isn't there.

Alt+Enter works but when I start another level the problem is back.
It also disabled the pause menu for some reason.

Not keen on making a new user account to download Steam and the game.

[Quest Walker]

I'll give it some more thought, and maybe you can search the greater internet to see how other people resolved similar issues.

But I don't want to leave you with nothing, so it could be worth testing individual patches with downpatching in the less easy way (it's still straight forward):
https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/611h5e/guide_how_to_download_older_versions_of_a_game_on/

[AdApt*]

All good, let me know if you manage to fix it 👍