Legacy of Kain™ Soul Reaver 1&2 Remastered

Legacy of Kain™ Soul Reaver 1&2 Remastered

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Strider Dec 10, 2024 @ 6:08am
soul reaver 1 intro needs to be fixed
so why the hell does raziel have a heavy jet black eye shadow makeup he doesn't have that in the original intro please fix that devs if you are hellbent on using your re-render anyway if you search on youtube Soul Reaver 4k Intro ( Remastered with Machine Learning AI) that video i would say is superior because it's the original intro and it's sharp but not to sharp the new intro reveals some faults with the render like right as raziel comes in and kneels the vampire to the right his eyes are out of his skull if it's like that in the original it can't be seen so that needs a fix aswell but honestly i would just say ask the guy on youtube about using his upscaled version because it's better !
Last edited by Strider; Dec 10, 2024 @ 7:08am
Originally posted by Sombric:
Yes, the original intro with AI is better, hopefully they will add an option to choose which intro to see or at least someone will make a mod to replace it.

The new intro has too many problems, it is zoomed to have an aspect ratio of 16:9 and part of what was seen above and below is lost, the cloaks have clipping issues, when kain breaks raziel's wings, the wings have no blood, and the most noticeable change is with the bones of the wings that kain holds, these do not have the pieces of flesh hanging.
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arcdtrade Dec 10, 2024 @ 6:13am 
jesus.... stop complaining
Goneja Dec 10, 2024 @ 6:13am 
Originally posted by Strider:
so i think it's actually to sharp now because they re-rendered it and also why the hell does raziel have a heavy jet black eye shadow makeup he doesn't have that in the original intro please fix that devs if you are hellbent on using your re-render anyway if you search on youtube Soul Reaver 4k Intro ( Remastered with Machine Learning AI) that video i would say is superior because it's the original intro and it's sharp but not to sharp the new intro reveals some faults with the render like right as raziel comes in and kneels the vampire to the right his eyes are out of his skull if it's like that in the original it can't be seen so that needs a fix aswell but honestly i would just say ask the guy on youtube about using his upscaled version because it's better !
Haters gonna hate...
Strider Dec 10, 2024 @ 6:25am 
Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡:
Originally posted by Strider:
so i think it's actually to sharp now because they re-rendered it and also why the hell does raziel have a heavy jet black eye shadow makeup he doesn't have that in the original intro please fix that devs if you are hellbent on using your re-render anyway if you search on youtube Soul Reaver 4k Intro ( Remastered with Machine Learning AI) that video i would say is superior because it's the original intro and it's sharp but not to sharp the new intro reveals some faults with the render like right as raziel comes in and kneels the vampire to the right his eyes are out of his skull if it's like that in the original it can't be seen so that needs a fix aswell but honestly i would just say ask the guy on youtube about using his upscaled version because it's better !
Haters gonna hate...
im not hating tho i care so much about this game that is why want it to look as good as the original because there are some stuff in this new intro that is worse looking compared to the og intro that is 25 years old so it should not be like this !
Strider Dec 10, 2024 @ 6:27am 
Originally posted by arcdtrade:
jesus.... stop complaining
it's called constructive criticism complaining is just saying something is bad without offering a solution
Haruspex Dec 10, 2024 @ 6:42am 
Originally posted by arcdtrade:
jesus.... stop complaining
Yeah, I mean at that point the OP should just go dig his Dreamcast out of the closet and play the original. I don't see a situation where he could possibly be satisfied with any kind of a remaster.
Goneja Dec 10, 2024 @ 6:50am 
Originally posted by Haruspex:
Originally posted by arcdtrade:
jesus.... stop complaining
Yeah, I mean at that point the OP should just go dig his Dreamcast out of the closet and play the original. I don't see a situation where he could possibly be satisfied with any kind of a remaster.
Wise words
Strider Dec 10, 2024 @ 6:55am 
Originally posted by Haruspex:
Originally posted by arcdtrade:
jesus.... stop complaining
Yeah, I mean at that point the OP should just go dig his Dreamcast out of the closet and play the original. I don't see a situation where he could possibly be satisfied with any kind of a remaster.
look they changed the render to a worse version that doesn't mean im not happy there is a remaster i already pre-ordered it and im gonna play them im just pointing out the downgrades of the intro that is how the game get's improved with feedback so your logic doesn't hold !
Aspyr CEO here. Thank you for your invaluable criticism. We will try make a new intro within the last 2,5 hours before the release. Maybe you'd also like some refreshments?
Loneck Dec 10, 2024 @ 7:15am 
Regarding FMV the main issue for me is that the top and bottom of the picture is cut off because they wanted FMVs in 16:9 aspect ratio. I dont think if was the right choice. Well, It is what it is.
Last edited by Loneck; Dec 10, 2024 @ 7:16am
Strider Dec 10, 2024 @ 7:20am 
Originally posted by Narcissistic Cannibal:
Aspyr CEO here. Thank you for your invaluable criticism. We will try make a new intro within the last 2,5 hours before the release. Maybe you'd also like some refreshments?
very good sir and i will take a coke xD so why are you so mad that i am giving feedback
Strider Dec 10, 2024 @ 7:25am 
Originally posted by Loneck:
Regarding FMV the main issue for me is that the top and bottom of the picture is cut off because they wanted FMVs in 16:9 aspect ratio. I dont think if was the right choice. Well, It is what it is.
well that to and another downgrade when you compare the wing textures with the original after kain rips them off it looks much lower res on the wings and there is a transparency glitch showing some black object behind the wings on raziel
Clockwork Dec 10, 2024 @ 7:32am 
i had to go watch some people who got review copies to figure out what youre talking about.
I prefer the one they have over the machine learning one.

the ML one is blurry, flickery, and has that weird smear AI does to things

also. vampires naturally develop eyeliner. its a fact
Atrum Ruina Dec 10, 2024 @ 8:02am 
Originally posted by Strider:
so why the hell does raziel have a heavy jet black eye shadow makeup he doesn't have that in the original intro please fix that devs if you are hellbent on using your re-render anyway if you search on youtube Soul Reaver 4k Intro ( Remastered with Machine Learning AI) that video i would say is superior because it's the original intro and it's sharp but not to sharp the new intro reveals some faults with the render like right as raziel comes in and kneels the vampire to the right his eyes are out of his skull if it's like that in the original it can't be seen so that needs a fix aswell but honestly i would just say ask the guy on youtube about using his upscaled version because it's better !
He does have it in the original. The opening FMV was re-rendered with the original source data, so it's clearer than any version we've had before. The older versions likely had a slight "blurring" effect, which made the "issues" you're noticing less clear. You're literally asking for less visual data because you don't like that it's not exactly as you remember it.

That said, I would argue there's an actual issue, in that the video is zoomed and cropped to fit a widescreen display (if I'm looking at some of the review videos correctly,) which DOES actually mean we're losing visual information. An option for the CG videos to play in their original aspect ratio to preserve the parts of the screen that are cut off would be great. It's possible one exists, I haven't dug thst much into the preview stuff.
Sgt.JESUS Dec 10, 2024 @ 8:05am 
I clicked the thread thinking the intro was busted, some sort of bug or something serious, come on OP eyeliner? Really?
Now that you said it Raziel does look like he has eyeliner on the original, goths right?
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Sombric Dec 10, 2024 @ 8:05am 
Yes, the original intro with AI is better, hopefully they will add an option to choose which intro to see or at least someone will make a mod to replace it.

The new intro has too many problems, it is zoomed to have an aspect ratio of 16:9 and part of what was seen above and below is lost, the cloaks have clipping issues, when kain breaks raziel's wings, the wings have no blood, and the most noticeable change is with the bones of the wings that kain holds, these do not have the pieces of flesh hanging.
Last edited by Sombric; Dec 10, 2024 @ 8:14am
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