Legacy of Kain™ Soul Reaver 1&2 Remastered

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How are vampires created? Spoilers mb
I have one small lore question: how are vampires created? There will be spoilers here, so those who haven't played all the games yet, don't read!!!
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We know that Vorador was created by Janos (excerpt from wiki "The ancient Vampire (like Janos) have one method, by which Vorador is raised, and by which Vorador will also raise his vampire offspring. This "blood" it would be a more "traditional" method, where the vampiric curse is passed from one vampire to a human."), and Cain was created by Mortanius. Afterward, Cain created his “sons” by dividing his soul. But how did Raziel and his brothers later create their subordinates? Did they also have to divide their souls? And did Vorador use this method? (I'm sure this question was raised when the games came out, but I couldn't find anything specific, or maybe I just didn't look it up:lunar2019piginablanket:).
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black Harlekin Dec 22, 2024 @ 6:26pm 
As we are in the spoiler teritory i try to shed some light in it. (Spoiler ahead for Defiance btw.)




Kain was created with the heart of darkness (Janos heart) by Mortanius (this is a reveal in LoK: Defiance) and so he is not a traditional created Vampire like Vorador.
As Kain never got the gift in a typical manner and was created through necromancy instead of receive the "vampire kiss" he created his offspring in a similar manner by reanimating corpses with his essence and gave this ability to his sons (there is a line where Raziel confirmed it as he sees the offsprings of Melchia as they have to plunder old graves for new recruits).
So Kains bloodline is a twisted and corrupted version of the Vampires, if the Sons had to give up part of their souls as well when they created their own vampires isn´t said or implied, i would guess so as they are way weaker than the "lords" themselves.
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Goneja Dec 23, 2024 @ 5:27am 
Kain is a bad vampire, he was created through evil magic by evil looking guy and his empire a big ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ joke now. Janos is a good angelic looking vampire, he created many great vampires, like green morbid looking devilish vampire Vorador. If not for filthy vampire hunters, he would still be alive and bring good to the world of Nosgoth, i think
Zer0 Dec 25, 2024 @ 2:27am 
Originally posted by black Harlekin:
As we are in the spoiler teritory i try to shed some light in it. (Spoiler ahead for Defiance btw.)




Kain was created with the heart of darkness (Janos heart) by Mortanius (this is a reveal in LoK: Defiance) and so he is not a traditional created Vampire like Vorador.
As Kain never got the gift in a typical manner and was created through necromancy instead of receive the "vampire kiss" he created his offspring in a similar manner by reanimating corpses with his essence and gave this ability to his sons (there is a line where Raziel confirmed it as he sees the offsprings of Melchia as they have to plunder old graves for new recruits).
So Kains bloodline is a twisted and corrupted version of the Vampires, if the Sons had to give up part of their souls as well when they created their own vampires isn´t said or implied, i would guess so as they are way weaker than the "lords" themselves.
tbf that line about Melchia isn't how they recruit, it's how they feed. The line is referring to how they've become so debased and frail that they need to feed off corpses.
Zer0 Dec 25, 2024 @ 2:39am 
I'll try my best not to flat out spoil stuff but might be difficult.

As far as I recall there are two types of vampires in LoK, there is the original "blue winged raced" who are turned vampire by the "unknown assailants" by being cursed with the crimson thirst. We don't really ever see many of these vampires besides Janos, Vorrador and then alllll the dead ones who appeared a fair bit more basic which I believe are ones made the traditional biting way. I thiiink Blood Omen 2 maybe covers this with the vampires being given the gift by Vorrador, but my memory's hazy (plus I can't stand that game).

Since he's not of the same kind of vampires, Kain's are kinda more like ghouls/blood thirsty zombies. Kain's sons are born through necromancy as told in SR1 where he exhumed the slain Sarrafan, giving part of his soul which in turn lures their original souls back to the corpses and bestowing gifts upon them.

I don't know if there's ever a direct reference as to how his sons then set about making their clans, but my guess would be it was effectively a lesser form of this necromancy (explaining why their clans are obviously far weaker than the initial brood).
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