man, this is a weird remaster

[Csumbi]

I remember playing the game on PC and absolutely loving it, the music the aesthetics are burned into my mind. I love the first game. That being said, when i started playing the remaster a lot of things felt off, both in the visual and sound department.
I dont know what version of the original game was used to make the remaster, but on the sound department is feels completely different compared to the original PC verison. The music tracks are different, like they are remixed or something, and honestly i dont like it, and the sound effects on the wraith blade swinging feel almost nonexistent.
Visually i expected more. Levels look exactly the same, down to the texture stretching UV problems, which is weird since stuff like that were resolved in the TR remasters. Compared to the TR remaster this feels quite underwhelming on the environment side. No additional foliage, props or anything to make the world feel more alive, or smoothing out areas that dont affect gameplay, which is just weird when TR remasters did quite a great job expanding on and remaking existing level geometry imo, like columns, statues, etc. Kinda hoped to see the same with these games.
The controls also dont work as they did in the original game, and again, TR remaster offers the option to change between the classic and modern controls.
No graphic options, i should be able to change the resolution at least.
I dont know man, as much as I love this franchise, and im glad that this remaster exists, i hoped for more in terms of a remaster. I hope that we are going to get a lot of updates that fulfill the potential of this remaster, and i hope that we will get remasters for the rest of the games, especially for Defiance, and BO2.

[MCPShephard]

If nothing else I can say that the music sounds different because it uses the original PS1 soundtrack, which is MIDI and dynamically switched to different versions of each track based on things like if you're indoors/outdoors, near enemies, fighting enemies, etc. The original PC port converted about 1/4-1/2 of the soundtrack into pre-mixed music; it sounded slightly higher quality but had problems with looping and, because there was less music, a lot of it was repeated throughout the game.

I do kinda like how the Melcaiah Clan territory/Necropolis theme's combat variation was made into the boss theme, that's a bit of a loss. But overall if the PC port music was a nice slice of pizza, the PS1 music was a full pie that's only slightly less nice.

[Allard]

Originally posted by MCPShephard:

The original PC port converted about 1/4-1/2 of the soundtrack into pre-mixed music; it sounded slightly higher quality but had problems with looping and, because there was less music, a lot of it was repeated throughout the game.

1/4-1/2? Make it 1/10th, the PS1 soundtrack featured a little under 200 different tracks, both Spectral and Material, while the PC version only had ten and it's all Material. The old PC port was incredibly crippled when it comes to the music.

[MCPShephard]

Originally posted by Allard:

Originally posted by MCPShephard:

The original PC port converted about 1/4-1/2 of the soundtrack into pre-mixed music; it sounded slightly higher quality but had problems with looping and, because there was less music, a lot of it was repeated throughout the game.

1/4-1/2? Make it 1/10th, the PS1 soundtrack featured a little under 200 different tracks, both Spectral and Material, while the PC version only has ten and it's all Material. The PC port was incredibly crippled when it comes to the music.

I was pulling a number outta my butt, wanting to be charitable. 200 seems a bit big to me but regardless the original PS1 soundtrack is easily better for sure.

[Allard]

Originally posted by MCPShephard:

I was pulling a number outta my butt, wanting to be charitable. 200 seems a bit big to me but regardless the original PS1 soundtrack is easily better for sure.

Raina Audron's personal website, The Ancient's Den, has the full ripped SR1 OST from PS1. 200 was a rough estimate, but counting how many tracks exactly are in there... 190.

[Nidrax Gaming]

Originally posted by MCPShephard:

If nothing else I can say that the music sounds different because it uses the original PS1 soundtrack, which is MIDI and dynamically switched to different versions of each track based on things like if you're indoors/outdoors, near enemies, fighting enemies, etc. The original PC port converted about 1/4-1/2 of the soundtrack into pre-mixed music; it sounded slightly higher quality but had problems with looping and, because there was less music, a lot of it was repeated throughout the game.

I do kinda like how the Melcaiah Clan territory/Necropolis theme's combat variation was made into the boss theme, that's a bit of a loss. But overall if the PC port music was a nice slice of pizza, the PS1 music was a full pie that's only slightly less nice.

I mean the sound font samples sound waaay better than on original PSX anyway, because of lack of PSXs hardware limitations (I guess the fidelity is similar to the Dreamcast version). It sounds different than the pre-recorded pieces in 1999 PC version, but honestly I think we got the best of both worlds.

[Tuna Wrap]

yes idk why everyone keeps saying on here that this soundtrack is superior, here you can clearly hear the pc version is way better:

remastered:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu16ivPbgUk&t=20m2s

original pc version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGnirVFrh74&t=26m2s

[Ymi]

Originally posted by Burgers_And_Beer:

yes idk why everyone keeps saying on here that this soundtrack is superior, here you can clearly hear the pc version is way better:

remastered:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu16ivPbgUk&t=20m2s

original pc version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGnirVFrh74&t=26m2s

a badly looped snippet of ozar midrashim (yes it's a great piece of music) playing all over the place due to the lack of half the soundtrack isn't *better* >.>

[Tuna Wrap]

Originally posted by Ymi:

Originally posted by Burgers_And_Beer:

yes idk why everyone keeps saying on here that this soundtrack is superior, here you can clearly hear the pc version is way better:

remastered:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu16ivPbgUk&t=20m2s

original pc version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGnirVFrh74&t=26m2s

a badly looped snippet of ozar midrashim (yes it's a great piece of music) playing all over the place due to the lack of half the soundtrack isn't *better* >.>

you can say it's badly looped but it still has way more musical depth. i wouldn't necessarily mind playing through this new dynamic soundtrack version, if i got the option to switch to the original pc one as well.

[Dosto]

Originally posted by Ymi:

Originally posted by Burgers_And_Beer:

yes idk why everyone keeps saying on here that this soundtrack is superior, here you can clearly hear the pc version is way better:

remastered:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu16ivPbgUk&t=20m2s

original pc version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGnirVFrh74&t=26m2s

a badly looped snippet of ozar midrashim (yes it's a great piece of music) playing all over the place due to the lack of half the soundtrack isn't *better* >.>

Yeah, feels like its broken on the PC version due the lack of the dynamic system that had dozen of variations.

[Tuna Wrap]

Originally posted by Dosto:

Originally posted by Ymi:

a badly looped snippet of ozar midrashim (yes it's a great piece of music) playing all over the place due to the lack of half the soundtrack isn't *better* >.>

Yeah, feels like its broken on the PC version due the lack of the dynamic system that had dozen of variations.

yes but i dont care for quantity. quality > quantity (also nostalgia above all else - i just wanted to experience the original pc soundtrack... would be totally open to trying out this new dynamic one if it was optional)

[Dosto]

Originally posted by Burgers_And_Beer:

Originally posted by Dosto:

Yeah, feels like its broken on the PC version due the lack of the dynamic system that had dozen of variations.

yes but i dont care for quantity. quality > quantity.

Having zones completely silent due a broken loop in the pc version is not having quality, bro.

But i get it that some ppl grew up with the pc version.

[Tuna Wrap]

Originally posted by Dosto:

Originally posted by Burgers_And_Beer:

yes but i dont care for quantity. quality > quantity.

Having zones completely silent due a broken loop in the pc version is not having quality, bro.

never said that. i am just confused why certain segments are using a very clearly lower quality versions. it's cool that they added the whole dynamic stuff but to sacrifice musical depth for it seems like a very odd choice

[Bones]

Originally posted by Burgers_And_Beer:

yes idk why everyone keeps saying on here that this soundtrack is superior, here you can clearly hear the pc version is way better:

remastered:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu16ivPbgUk&t=20m2s

original pc version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGnirVFrh74&t=26m2s

Yeah, this is all I needed to see. Entering The Necropolis and it's playing a looping "Ozar Midrashim? Yikes, this is not a hill worth dying on

[Tuna Wrap]

Originally posted by Bones:

Originally posted by Burgers_And_Beer:

yes idk why everyone keeps saying on here that this soundtrack is superior, here you can clearly hear the pc version is way better:

remastered:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu16ivPbgUk&t=20m2s

original pc version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGnirVFrh74&t=26m2s

The fact you guys all know the track name shows me you all have some sort of weird obsession with these games, no offense. All I wanted was the original PC soundtrack, for nostalgia. If I can't get the original PC soundtrack from a remaster that is being sold ON PC, then it's not a remaster to me but a straight up downgrade.

[Dosto]

They should add the option to play with the PC version soundtrack too, its obviously everyone is attaached to their own taste since the game was experienced in different ways.