Goibniu routes and builds for Goibniu mode

[JH1000]

Hello everybody,

since Youtube is not really accessible from mainland China and Twitch doesn't work well at all either, I cannot watch videos of Goibniu mode playthroughs.

Therefore I would like the people that run Goibniu mode to post their general route (where to go, what to do, pick up, where to level, etc.) for any of the characters here. I know it's probably a lot to type/paste, but maybe some of you still feel like doing it. Most interesting to me would be the best/most reliable ways to beat the bosses.

Thanks!

[Purazis]

Are you interested in points or the achievement ? I'll wait for the answer so i can give you better info. Reliably beating boss is one of the easiest thing, except the big two (Leilodin and Myrgato). Reina and Gilda are easy with bare minimum farming, Vladyn can be easy if you farm and Wyatt is not easy but not hard while requiring some farm.

I'd say that knowing how to farm levels on the ogre before 1st boss and on the feral puffers in the fisherman mini-quest are the most important info and it's hard to explain that with words only. Isn't there any sort of site to bypass the youtube block (or allow you to download youtube videos) or use a proxy ? Can you watch twitch videos from past streamings ?

Reina - full agi, full left skill tree
Gilda - full int, "full" right skill tree
Vladyn - not 100% sure but probably full agi, full left skill tree
Wyatt - 15 to 20 str (after stats bonus), half left tree and go for Reaver (level 15 tier) on the right skill tree.

[JH1000]

In points mainly, since it is not too hard to just complete the mode.

Thanks! For Wyatt, you mean 15 to 20 Str rest agi? How is bleeding good when the two strongest bosses are immune to it?

You can access youtube with a VPN but I doubt anybody would like to spend hours watching a video load. Same for twitch, although twitch is acceptable and you don't need a VPN. I do not know any streamer's name though, all the ones I have found have Goibniu mode runs that are months or years old.

[Purazis]

Reina http://www.twitch.tv/aerodisz/v/12168842
Gilda http://www.twitch.tv/hanabito/v/11961560

You have to go under 2147483648 points otherwise it'll glitch out and go negative, so your points won't register.


EDITED FOR WYATT

- Farm level 5 (backtrack to get Murderous Raiment if you want)
- Cunning, Tenacity, Combo Expert, Tactical Strike
Lvl 5 (sword) vs Azudor
Lvl 5 (bow) vs Tagu
Lvl 5 (sword) vs Ruckjahl
- Grip
- Buy anti-poison elixir
- Get Gladiator Armor and use it from now on
Lvl 6 (sword) vs Shu Gohth
- Farm to 7 if you don't get it after getting Gilda
- "Bleed"
Lvl 7 (sword) vs Yeti
- Possible farm to level 8 on the nearby Feral Reaper
- "Faster Heavy Attack Speed", "10% mana"
- Get dark weapon blacksmith
Lvl 8 (sword) vs Dhistahn
- "Faster mana regen"
- Get Old Book and Opal near Ishk (3rd city)
Lvl 8 (sword) vs Jahzracht (Use Atalan to cancel tornado)
- Talk to Goibniu Blacksmith
- Save Tagrum
- Backtrack Mausoleum + Ice Temple to get the items/crew in the way and save Daeman (buy anti-ice elixir if you think you need)
- Buy Double Jump
- Farm to level 15 (you should be able to finish your farming before the anti-venom elixir expires)
- Farm for Weighted Bracers and +1 combo from Daeman (possibly mana regen if you feel like it, but i don't think there is a magician cloak in the path you took so far)
- Learn Reaver (double poison damage) and the rest is up to you
- Buy Raven doll and whatever else you can afford from the the same vendor (Old Book and extra SC are not essential, so you should wait to buy at this moment to avoid extra farm)
- Buy weighted bracers another anti-poison elixir
Lvl 15 (sword) Raven
- Upgrade your bow to give poison arrows and deliver all the Old Books you have
Lvl Z (sword or dual daggers or bow) Ragano
Lvl Z (bow) Lozzo
Lvl Z (sword 1st and 2nd phase, bow 3rd phase) Abomination
- Talk to mana core guy
Lvl Z (sword) Magus
Lvl Z (bow) Treu
Lvl Z (bow) Manawar
Lvl Z (bow) Gernot
- Save Ishk and get Divine Key
- Buy anti-ice elixir
Lvl Z (bow) Abigail
Lvl Z (bow) Alagath
Lvl Z (bow) Leilodin
Lvl Z (Sword) Myrgato
Lvl Z (bow) Anemone

For Alagath, you do a combo, wait a bit for her to put up her guard, double jump (or Golden Raid for Reina if you don't have double jump) to go to her back, combo and repeat. That way you stunlock her for at least the majority of the fight.

For Myrgato you can keep changing from ground attacks to aerial attacks and using SC when she is near the wall to push her the other way, that way you can do a really extended combo. Works for Wyatt and Reina. Not sure about the other 2.

For Leilodin see both twitch videos for those characters. For Wyatt just go invisible and poison her with the bow poison bubble and wait, don't spread that info on other threads, lol, not sure if it works on her 2nd form / 3rd phase but that part isn't annoying, so it doesn't really matter. For Vladyn probably just spam the ice rifle from far away.

In general, you want:

Fighter's Bandages and all cities Health Charms for Reina
Ice 2, maybe Fire 2, Priest Tome and farm level 15 on Feral Puffers for Gilda
Weighted Bracelets and farm level 15 on Feral Puffers for Wyatt
Level 5 on every characters before first boss to make triple S on the first 5 bosses or so easier.

Feral Puffer combos for XP:
As Reina, use the atk speed buff spell, double jump, kick, and repeat. During the rotation insert SC from air + dash through puffer for extra multipliers.
As Gilda, double jump and use aerial poison spell. During the rotation, insert SC from air + dash through puffer for extra multipliers.
As Wyatt, start with poison bubble, double jump, ice spell and arrow attack, repeat everything except poison bubble. Somewhere between, insert SC from air, dash near the puffer and hit him with a poison bubble for more XP multiplier. You can consistently get 5x or more multiplier

You may want to level a bit more or avoiding to spend stats and skill points so your damage isn't low to not waste that much mana and at the same time not too high so you can't build a high multiplier before killing him.

[JH1000]

Thanks a lot!

Two parts confuse me though:

1. Is the fighter's bandages this early. I assume they don't cost coins in Goibniu mode?

2. Why do you mention Yama Dee?

Sorry, I know nothing about Goibniu mode yet :P

Going to watch the videos soon.

[Purazis]

1. I get the Tagu coin during the boss fight and the Fire Temple coin using totem + air spell to get enough heigh to wall jump on the mid section without needing double jump. You can buy double jump and backtrack for them if you want, as you need to waste some time to not go over the points "limit".

2. It's just a reminder so i wouldn't forget, just like talking to the mana core guy and saving the cities. You get points for saving crew members / cities and he is on a room you go through, but it's easy to forget because he is "hidden".

[JH1000]

Didn't know you can get the Tagu one early. I will have a look at the video to see how.

Can you get two coins this early with some of the other chars too?

[Purazis]

Excluding Gilda. Maybe Wyatt with dual daggers air heavy attack + air dark spell (holy wisp won't give you extra height, can use air ice on Fire Temple as it costs less mana) + wall jump + air heavy attack, but if possible, it's probably a very precise jump. Wyatt air heavy attack gives him considerably less height compared to Reina's totem throw, plus you can reset the totem by being out of vertical range and throw it a second time for Tagu's coin (it's not needed iirc, but harder to screw up).

[JH1000]

Wait a second... why is the Yeti still there after beating Shu Goht? I am certain that the first time I played through the game and went back for him right after Shu Goht he was gone... That was on the 1.0.0.25 version.

[myhr2]

1.0.0.25 is the latest version, and The Yeti only moves after you reach Ishk, so he should be there right after Shu Ghoht.

[JH1000]

Yeah, if he is in the video then it's obviously true. I was just really sure he was gone during my first playthrough :P

Anyway, gonna do a Goibniu playthrough for the achievement, so optimal strats aren't that important, but I would still like to try the current route.

Did I understand it right that is Purgatory with 15-20 strength and the rest agi, bleeding build? That means Murderous Raiment as well or is Goibniu better with the strength buff? Or is it some bow build?

Thanks!

[Purazis]

Yeah, 15 or 20 str with the rest on agi. Murderous is probably better before level 15 + weighted bracers and Goibniu is better after that.

I've tested strenght with default sword and agility with the bow, both without the bracers, and the strenght with sword is overall better, although in some fights they're pretty similar in DPS. Assuming you go farm for level 15 after Fire Temple, you will probably want to use the bow for the poison with double damage on every boss after that (Gernot, Treu, Alagath, maybe Anemone and True Anemone, don't think Magus has a high enough HP to be worth at level 15 + bracers). You can also keep switching between bow for poison only and sword if you want to go full tryhard.

With 15 or 20 strenght and rest on agi + bracers the only fight you will have subpar damage is against Myrgato. The poison arrows upgrade is probably really effective for Anemone + True Anemone, but i didn't try that out.

If you want, i can make a video on twitch on Myrgato and maybe Ragano. On top of my head these are the only fights that can be tricky, i don't think i do anything different than you would at the other bosses.

One trick that i've seen from a Goibniu video on youtube is using air spell to reset your air attacks so you can do double arrow attacks with 1 jump (4 with the double jump), but i only found it really useful against Tagu. Maybe it works well against Alagath now that i think about it.

Outside of boss fights, there is the room before Shu'Goth, which is pure cancer as Wyatt and Reina, i can try to see an effective approach to it. Superior Mana Crystal is really convenient and i'd recommend, mainly for the perfect guard. No need to buy the anti-fire elixir, only the anti-cold and anti-poison ones. Not sure if you can do Shu'Goth + Farm on puffers + Azudor 2 + Ragano (kill him way earlier than my Reina route) with one elixir, but would be good if you could because farming for mana crystal shards (ingredient for elixir) can make you lose some minutes, then again farming for the small feral soul for the weighted bracers may give you some spare ingredients for a 2nd poison elixir.

Wish i could help more with Wyatt, was messing with him, but for a few reasons i've ended up not doing a proper route and Goibniu run for him.

[JH1000]

Okay thanks.

That means I should mainly rely on the sword until I get the double affliction damage upgrade, correct? Except for Tagu and maybe some other bosses.

And yes, a Twitch video for those bosses would be much appreciated. Myrgato is not immune to bleed though, right? Why is she hard? I remember that in my first casual playthrough on Godslayer I had less trouble with her than Alagath and I was using the build you suggested, agi with some strength. I am also still interested in a video of how to manipulate Leilodin with Wyatt (with Purgatory, no abusing the bow in any way I mean). I know there are plenty of videos of it on Youtube but well... you know :P

So is it a good idea to only add strength until 15-20 and only start with agi after? or should I level up agi earlier?

Also, how many weapon upgrades should I aim for?

[Purazis]

Start with str, yes, it's better on the early game. Agi is more impactful on the mid and late game. Level 2 or 3 sword is fine if you have spare materials, but there is no need to upgrade at all. Poison arrows on the bow (bow level 2) is too good, though.

She is immune to bleed. The problem with her is that you won't have level 4 weapon, level 3 armor or the entire physical skill tree, so your damage is kinda weak and optimally you can do about 50% of her HP within the focus duration, so if things go bad you'll have to deal with a low health Myrgato which can take a pot off you and tank your rank (points).

Fighting Leilodin without poison or fire 3 takes a really long time, don't think you can even get S in time unless you want to risk going low hp with goibniu armor. Plus abusing the AI isn't really different than cheesing with poison, lol, but i'll do that.

[JH1000]

Good, that's what I wanted to hear about the sword upgrades. It means I can unlock his gold weapon through Goibniu mode :P

I wouldn't fight Leilodin normally in Goibniu mode obviously, I'm just curious.

Same for the other bosses, I have myself found ways to beat all of them up to Distahn with SSS consistently, although I doubt they are the best ones. And for Distahn I am still clueless. I know he can*t be reliably SSS ranked because he is too random, but I don't think my approach is the best. Probably there are videos with way better strats somewhere which I sadly cannot access.

Here is what I have so far, maybe you can help:

1. I use the Light magic buff for every boss.

2. My skills so far are, in this order:

Left skill tree: Grip, Tenacity, Tactical Strikes, Master Focus, Combo Expert

Right Skill Tree: Wisdom, Dark Heart

Ogre (I know it's not a boss): I am using dash through him, three light attacks, lifter, air heavy, dash through him, side Dark magic, light, light, light, heavy. It gives me 5x Exp. Is there something better?

Azudor: Heavy spam, when he goes up do three light jump attacks, finish with a ground heavy on the platform. Kill the left archer when she spawns. When the last batch of enemies spawns, use Focus, dash past the right assassin, jump up behind the two right archers, knock off Azudor with a heavy and kill him with the Finisher on the ground.

Tagu: Dark magic air and ground with light sword attacks to break the shield, then heavy spam with some side Dark to damage the core.

Ruckjahl: Four heavy attacks + air Dark, retreat to activate mana heater, walljump up his face to destroy the top crystal, fall down again and retreat to the left side waiting for his attacks, then repeat. I use air heavy from below his head to damage him.

Shu Goht: Frost Blade, four heavy attacks, dash through him, another four heavy attacks, then jump up and try for light air atacks + one heavy at the end (only works sometimes.) Later hit him in the one position he doesn't skip, then wait on the top platform to interrupt him.

Yeti: I have no idea. Usually just a heavy spam and dashing behind it when SC is up, with some light and heavy air attacks mixed in if I need it.

Distahn: Very bad. Four heavy attacks, jump heavy followed by skill cancel down and through him, then three more heavies from behind. Sometimes I replace the three heavies from behind with side Dark magic and 1-2 heavies to raise rank. Kill the first big angel with Focus.
I get SAS or ASS with this about 90% of the time but it still feels pretty useless and I only get SSS about 70% of the time, probably less. I know that's a normal ratio but I'm sure there is a better way to deal with him regardless.

An overall problem with this is that I do not know when you would normally have a focus finisher ready in a Goibniu run.

[Purazis]

I don't think skill orders is that important, but here is what i do: Cunning, Tenacity, Combo Expert, Tactical Strike, Grip, "Bleed", "Faster Heavy Attack Speed", "10% mana", "faster mana regen". You can get faster mana regen earlier if you think you need to keep healing yourself.

http://www.megafileupload.com/qtSY/WyattGoibniu.rar

Here is some videos i've done so far, i tried streaming yesterday but Twitch chopped everything and just some bits of what i've played were registered, so i'll do this way instead. Can upload on another videos site besides youtube if you want. Forgot to put on the videos, but you can use the sword light attack on the ice area to go way faster than walking and skill cancelling. Use the 1st light attack and then wait a tiny bit for the combo counter to reset and do it again.

EDIT: I've edited the 3rd post to be what is the Wyatt route i'd use.

You have to decide what situations you'll really need the Focus and do a test run of it so you can have a general ideia on where it'll be recharged if you use at place X or Y, then on the real run you just farm a bit more to recharge the Focus. If there is two points where you think it's important to use Focus, then you'll have to pick the most important and simply deal with it on the other.

For Tagu, dark air spell costs too much MP for the blue bar damage it causes, i'd recommend either whisps for 2 aerial arrow attacks or side dark spell. I don't think you want to spend a mana potion on her, better save for more important places. For Distan, you can reset your combo like i did to do more damage before he vanishes (apparently also works on Shu'Goth, but i never tested it that much).