OUT OF BOUNDS ROUTING!!! MWA HA HA HA HA!!!

[Mr. Oibyr]

I feel that it's time to explain how to cheat in this game.

With Gilda(I don't think it'll work with the other three), use Void magic(the teleporty one) near ceilings and you could possibly phase into them. This works to drastically decrease the time of a speedrun(after defeating Gernot, whom you take the void magic from, obviously) or to easily get to floor 100 of the Arena.

To see the speedrun portion, watch RiskyCB's speedrun videos on YT(link below). For the Arena cheat; go to the bottom of the neutral area(right before dropping down to the next room), go all the way to the left(up that little ramp), use void to the right, enter the ceiling(about half way) and double(or triple) jump through the wall to the right without falling out of the ceiling, repeat. Voila! Floor 100 without a fight(FYI, at floor 101, incredibly powerful normal enemies will now appear in th neutral area. I would recommend getting as far as you can without it, first. This will give you enough power to survive your travel through the neutral area...for a couple floors).

My record is 66 without it and 106(I think) with it(10th place in the global ranking, somehow RiskyCB got to 1111 and he's still only second!!!).

Any questions? Comments?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5rymy4tpxs go to 29:12

[Von]

You can actually clip out of bounds with anyone and Black Hole... iirc anyway. I know that the WR Vladyn run uses OOB pathing as well, I think it's just harder to set up because you don't have as much mobility. But I know anyone can use the shortcut out of Gernot's dungeon (in the room to the left of his boss fight room, where the statue is).

[Mr. Oibyr]

引用自 Von Arlin：

You can actually clip out of bounds with anyone

I can't remember who else I tried it with, but it didn't work. Wyatt, maybe? I probably just did it wrong.

[Von]

I think Gilda is just way better equipped to not only try multiple times but also to set up good areas to abuse it with her ability to get to a lot of places without any additional items thanks to double/triple jump. In a speedrun scenario I think it's not as useful to try and OOB with other people because you have to spend more time on setup with the other characters... I was trying to route Reina/Wyatt speedruns but the only OOB trick I could get to work is the very first one (escaping Gernot's dungeon quickly)... D=

[Mr. Oibyr]

Gilda might be the only one who can do the True Anemone skip, as well.

[Von]

yeah I'm pretty sure you need Gilda's extra jumps to do that skip. I think it's one of the reasons that it seems Vladyn and Gilda are the only people with speedruns on speedrun.com... Maybe Vladyn can do it too? Though I guess if he can, anyone can, unless it requires void arm air light usage I guess.

[Mr. Oibyr]

I don't think Vladyn has a way to get that kind of height. In the link posted above at 34:00, RiskyCB does it a different way than I do it. I do it from the upper right tentacle(much easier).

How would Vladyn compensate for Gilda's "air spell, burst, air spell, burst, repeat" height gaining and two extra jumps?

[Mr. Oibyr]

I'm definetly more interested in Goibniu mode and Arena, as they have leaderboards(I'm currently 6th with Gilda's Goibniu mode). Wouldn't it be cool if there was a speedrun leaderboard?

[Von]

I was watching the WR Vladyn speedrun and he uses air light attacks against walls to get added height in some situations. For the true anemone skip though it looks like he gets Double Jump and does top right tentacle -> double jump towards wall -> air spell -> wall hang/jump -> double jump and then grabs the wall and climbs up. It's at 39:00~ in the WR Vladyn run. I guess that means anyone could do it as long as you were willing to unlock double jump... it's a 37m 30s run though so not bad at all.

[Mr. Oibyr]

I must see this...

[Mr. Oibyr]

Very nice! I especially liked the skip in the library. It's been so long since I've used "retry". I was shocked how he used it as a healing technique, lol.

[Mr. Oibyr]

I'm no longer 10th for Arena!!! I need to get to the 111th floor to get my place back. I have a feeling that now that I've given away the secret, I should probably aim for floor 200.

...later.

[Von]

引用自 G!7d@ !r3：

I'm definetly more interested in Goibniu mode and Arena, as they have leaderboards(I'm currently 6th with Gilda's Goibniu mode). Wouldn't it be cool if there was a speedrun leaderboard?

I think the goibnu mode should have a speed category and a points category... Not that I can even clear it. I can handle the bosses just fine in most difficulties, but it's honestly the trash mobs that ♥♥♥♥ me up... especially early on before you get skill cancel. So many runs have died in goibnu before I get that first master scroll... and Vladyn Goibnu is just painful. Who wants to do the the gardens first?

[Mr. Oibyr]

Do you mean two different Goibniu modes? One for speed and one for points? Because the overall points when completing it are based off of speed, S-ranks, map %, treasure chests and civilians/crew saved. I recorded a Goibniu speedrun with Gilda(the other video on my YT page) that took just over 2 hours when I could barely OOB route. Did another after mastering it, but didn't record it(50 minutes approximately...with no proof other than a buddy watching me. I wish I had turned on plays.tv, but I didn't think I would pull it off).

Of the 460 hours I've played; 200+ were Goibniu attempts.

I know what you are saying about the early lack of skill cancel problem, but I've beaten Goibniu with both Vladyn(1 time) and Gilda(4 times). The gardens are easy with Gilda, because you should have enough items to purchase an anti-venom elixir from the girl at the top of Hrukk(I've had to farm a spirit shard or two before). For Vladyn, it's a little harder without the anti-venom, but not so bad with his long range attacks and demon summons. Once you beat the gardens with him, the rest feels easy. Gilda is the opposite.

I used his sniper rifle against everyone, even angels.

[Mr. Oibyr]

引用自 G!7d@ !r3：

...I should probably aim for floor 200.

Floor 666. 3rd place.