Before I buy

[Azi_Dahaka12th]

i need to know...
according to all the info i could find, no matter WHO you marry(or chose not to marry) you still end up married to a man or have sex with men? like there no REAL lesbian route? like really you give us 3 woman but they all end up with you having husbands or male lovers anyway?!

[Azi_Dahaka12th]

(In versions 1.3+) If Joslyn is dead, have Intrigue <10 and don't act against Lucille or grant her the duchy of Merva. The epilogue will mention how, after a bout of fever and delirium, Elodie recovered but became barren; now without the burden of producing "worthy" heirs, she marries Brin out of love and makes her Queen-Consort.

this is the only one that dose not outright state or even imply male lovers...

Elodie can end up romantically involved with Briony, though no marriage can take place (she's given the position of lady-in-waiting as an excuse to be close to Elodie, and both marry unnamed nobles for pure convenience). as in a sexless marriage? (paper marriage) or loveless sex to make heirs?

so in love with a woman but sleeping with a man?

[Hanako Games]

Romance is an *extremely minor* part of this game - if you're looking for a dating sim or even a raising sim with romantic relationships, this is probably not the game you want. Most of the people Elodie marries do not have faces/art at all. Many of them do not even have names. There are no "routes".

If you DO want a raising sim with lesbian relationships, may I suggest you try Cute Bite instead?

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1586960/Cute_Bite/

All the romance possibilities in that game are female and there is some story development related to the romances. Still not as much as you'd get in a VN, but there is at least progression showing them becoming interested in each other and CGs to unlock.

But yes, in this game Elodie is bisexual and under pressure to produce an heir and that's generally part of how the story plays out. Things will be quite different in Galaxy Princess Zorana. Different story, different pressures!

[Azi_Dahaka12th]

thats only partial answered my question, but thank you none the less...as you say the games not for me then

[Azi_Dahaka12th]

my main question was is there ANY "no man" ending? like even if its only like 2 possible endings...
"and both marry unnamed nobles for pure convenience" like is that a paper marriage? where we marry some unnamed noble but keep each other as lovers and never even touch our "husbands" ?

[Meep]

This is actually brutal game of survival. Your goal is to get Elodie to the end alive and not dethroned (and the former is infinitely more likely!) You will spend all your time trying not to f-up a check and die.

Marriage is about 5% of the game, but in that regard its very much in line with the historical truth of medieval Europe: lesbians & gay men 100% existed, but were still pressured to have blood-related heirs as babies and marriages were the only ways to pass property in that era.

You can actively aid at least to lesbian nobles in getting out of it, but as Elodie is about to be a queen? She needs to literally be infertile to get away with it. It's also why actually marrying any lady love is dang near impossible , marriage is effectively a business contract sealed with blood heirs. Your 100% right, husband literally doesn't mean husband by modern definition here.

Though Elodie does get away with ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ off to who know's where & coming back pregnant and saying 'what father, who cares, its an heir. fight me.' and waltzing into the metaphorical sunset with her wife-in-all-but-name.

If you need this to be a game where lesbians can be modern lesbians instead of historical lesbians. No its probably not for you? (Cute Bite on the other hand has literally no men in the cast, let alone male love interests)

[Hanako Games]

Originally posted by Azi_Dahaka12th:

my main question was is there ANY "no man" ending? like even if its only like 2 possible endings...

The one Brin ending you mentioned is clear that Elodie is just married to Brin. She doesn't have any male partners.

In almost any other situation it will be implied that Elodie at least takes a male lover in order to have children.

However, it's not always specified, and certainly not always specified whether there are feelings involved or not. I'm sorry, it's just really hard for me to answer because I have no idea how many endings you could attempt to interpret in that direction if you really tried.

"and both marry unnamed nobles for pure convenience" like is that a paper marriage? where we marry some unnamed noble but keep each other as lovers and never even touch our "husbands" ?

The entire text related to that situation is:

"Both women did marry in time, but they never gave up their affection for each other."

That's all the game says. There is no canon saying whether they touch their husbands or not. Did they fall in love with men and marry them? Did they marry men to have heirs? Did they marry men for alliance reasons and then not sleep with them? It's not specified in the game.

[Azi_Dahaka12th]

for me, the ending is important, as a really bad ending could ruin an otherwise great game...look at mass effect 3... BUT if there is at least one ending where you never sleep with or marry a man, then i would at least have a goal...so maybe..ill have to give it some thought